Around the NHL: Part XXIV

[RangersFan1994]

No goal. That is goalie interference in my opinion on the Stars goal

 

[NoQuitInNewMexico]

The ref saying "incidental contact" like that was a good prank because it made me forget what the rule is for a second

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Every game in these playoffs seems like its gone to OT.

 

[RangersFan1994]

Pavelski hat trick tie game 4-4 going to overtime now, they are reviewing for offsides hmm, it counts

 

[aufheben]

Seguin just made the most insane play to stay onside you’ll ever see.

 

[Kords]

The hockey meta constantly shifts between bigger grindy teams, and fast finesse teams. Just look back at the past two decades of SC champs, as the game continues to evolve, so to does the balance constantly shifts. I'd rather not constantly try and chase the meta, rather build around our own identity and eventually it will fall into place. Obviously you need a balance (look no further than the leafs) but we are in no threat of becoming as soft and passive as them.

 

[Raspewtin]

When people inevitably complain about trading some skill for some more grind oriented players, I'm going to force them to watch this period to understand why it happened.

I don’t think it’s a matter of thinking it’s a bad idea it’s just who are you trading to insert these players ? I say this as someone who agrees

 

[Machinehead]

John Carlson getting absolutely f***ing walked. Inject that into my veins.

 

[aufheben]

Bennett is having quite the coming out party.

18-year-old Sam Bennett?

 

[Machinehead]

The hockey meta constantly shifts between bigger grindy teams, and fast finesse teams. Just look back at the past two decades of SC champs, as the game continues to evolve, so to does the balance constantly shifts. I'd rather not constantly try and chase the meta, rather build around our own identity and eventually it will fall into place. Obviously you need a balance (look no further than the leafs) but we are in no threat of becoming as soft and passive as them.

We were probably the toughest team in the league in 19-20.

 

[Machinehead]

18-year-old Sam Bennett?

 

[Irishguy42]

18-year-old Sam Bennett?

The very same 24 year-old 18 year-old Sam Bennett

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

The hockey meta constantly shifts between bigger grindy teams, and fast finesse teams. Just look back at the past two decades of SC champs, as the game continues to evolve, so to does the balance constantly shifts. I'd rather not constantly try and chase the meta, rather build around our own identity and eventually it will fall into place. Obviously you need a balance (look no further than the leafs) but we are in no threat of becoming as soft and passive as them.

We are big, but not really grindy or gritty.

Most of the winners in the last 10 years have been the heavier teams. Even the more "skilled" teams have gotten massive contributions out of their grinders "Buff, Bonino, Hornqvist, etc."

the closest thing we had/have to that is Fast and Lemieux. We don't have enough of it in our top 9.

 

[BKGooner]

The hockey meta constantly shifts between bigger grindy teams, and fast finesse teams. Just look back at the past two decades of SC champs, as the game continues to evolve, so to does the balance constantly shifts. I'd rather not constantly try and chase the meta, rather build around our own identity and eventually it will fall into place. Obviously you need a balance (look no further than the leafs) but we are in no threat of becoming as soft and passive as them.

or you break the meta with a big and fast team, which the Rangers will be if people meet their projections.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I don’t think it’s a matter of thinking it’s a bad idea it’s just who are you trading to insert these players ? I say this as someone who agrees

We have a ton of assets, they won't all play here.

I think the more expendable roster players are obvious - Buchnevich, Chytil, Strome. Howden would be on that list for me but the Org loves him.

 

[aufheben]

Heiskanen might be the next Doughty except way less of a weenie.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

Feel like the move isn't to start pushing by starting to make big trades this year aside from shaving off a goalie or two. Let Lafreniere get his rookie season under his belt, let Kakko get another year of experience, let expansion shake itself out, and let the dead weight and money come off the books, reassess from there

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Gurionov is russian Kreider.

 

[Harbour Dog]

Every game in these playoffs seems like its gone to OT.

It's been f***ing great!

 

[Leetch3]

The hockey meta constantly shifts between bigger grindy teams, and fast finesse teams. Just look back at the past two decades of SC champs, as the game continues to evolve, so to does the balance constantly shifts. I'd rather not constantly try and chase the meta, rather build around our own identity and eventually it will fall into place. Obviously you need a balance (look no further than the leafs) but we are in no threat of becoming as soft and passive as them.

tracing trends never works cause by the time you’ve built that team the trend has changed. Unless you are going to be the trend setter, it’s better to have a balance and well rounded team that can play different styles. It also makes you harder to match against

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

The hockey meta constantly shifts between bigger grindy teams, and fast finesse teams. Just look back at the past two decades of SC champs, as the game continues to evolve, so to does the balance constantly shifts. I'd rather not constantly try and chase the meta, rather build around our own identity and eventually it will fall into place. Obviously you need a balance (look no further than the leafs) but we are in no threat of becoming as soft and passive as them.

It’s always been the big gritty teams, and elite defense. the Penguins 2 cups just tricked everyone into thinking it changed .

 

[RGY]

Washington’s days a top team in the East are about to expire. Them and Pittsburgh are in trouble. Not much in the pipeline to fill in and extend however many prime quality years Ovechkin and Crosby have left into deep playoff runs. They both have so many flaws.

 

[LeetchisGod]

Washington’s days a top team in the East are about to expire. Them and Pittsburgh are in trouble. Not much in the pipeline to fill in and extend however many prime quality years Ovechkin and Crosby have left into deep playoff runs. They both have so many flaws.

This is perfect timing for our rise up the division.

 

[Raspewtin]

We have a ton of assets, they won't all play here.

I think the more expendable roster players are obvious - Buchnevich, Chytil, Strome. Howden would be on that list for me but the Org loves him.

you consider Chytil a more expendable player? why?

 

[eco's bones]

We are big, but not really grindy or gritty.

Most of the winners in the last 10 years have been the heavier teams. Even the more "skilled" teams have gotten massive contributions out of their grinders "Buff, Bonino, Hornqvist, etc."

the closest thing we had/have to that is Fast and Lemieux. We don't have enough of it in our top 9.

Carolina's bottom lines were much better than ours. They were cohesive units--ours were more like pieces thrown together. Losing Fast on the first shift though was very damaging. Still though Jesper is a very diligent hardworking forechecker who is good away from the puck he's not really a heavy player.

It reminds me of 1994--the Rangers sending Amonte to the Blackhawks for Noonan and Matteau. On the surface we got robbed. Amonte was a legit 1st line capable winger with a lethal shot. Matteau and Noonan were 3rd/4th line muckers and grinders. They were a key part of our Stanley Cup win though--they had no problem doing those unappreciated jobs that have to get done for a team to have ultimate success. The Rangers had more than enough offense from what remained so.......it worked. The Gartner for Anderson deal was a bit more f***ed up--seemed one part was to reunite Messier with another of his buddies and the other part was to please Keenan who hated Gartner.

Right now I would say Panarin, Zibanejad, Kakko and Lafreniere are the forwards that everything is going to revolve around and the others are kind of secondary to them. That group will drive the offense. Kreider does have the net front presence and speed thing but he's not really up to their grade. Nor is Buchnevich or Strome and Chytil may or may not get there.