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Man, LaBanc better have a guarantee of a sweet deal on Jan 1, plus one hell on an insurance policy to agree to this...
Around the NHL: Part XVI - Born on the First of July
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Labanc contract is cap circumvention if I've ever seen it. If I'm the NHLPA I make a stink about that one.
how is it cap circumvention if he agreed to it? he chose to take less $$ that's his decision
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He chose to take less money today, with an extremely likely under-the-table wink-wink agreement that January 1st or whenever, before next season, he gets a multi-year deal that'll be something like say 4 years for 28 million but will actually be a 5 year 29 million deal.
The NHLPA doesn't like guys taking way under market value deals. Doesn't help other RFAs' cause when they're going toe-to-toe with their respective teams for every dollar.
i really dislike the common idea that a player is supposed to get every penny they can cause it helps the rest of the players. the guy signing should do what he feels is best for himself not worry about others
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At the same token when you have gm’s giving out 9mil contracts to ufa’s like skinner and artificially driven up those type of commodities then you can’t really have gripe with these type of contracts that would cost control rfa’s. What good for the goose has to be good for the gander.
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I don't have a problem with the Labanc contract. It helps the Sharks, sure. He's also taking a pretty big risk because the contract he thinks is available won't be available if he gets injured or isn't having a good season. I think it was stupid of him to sign the deal but I don't think the Sharks are doing anything wrong with this one.
The PA can get pissed at him, but aside from that I don't see what else they can do.
LeBlanc agreed to it.
I get where you're coming from, but the whole idea behind the NHLPA or any similar body is that strength comes through numbers, unity, and collectivism. As long as everyone sticks together, then the negotiating body remains strong and the individuals in turn have great opportunities and privileges. But, if everyone acts in their own self interest with no regard for the impact their decisions have on the collective, then things fracture and the opportunities and privileges erode.
Not going to condemn Labanc, as I don't know the details of what really went on. But man, if this started to become commonplace, then a lot of guys could get screwed.
The union has got to be absolutely bonkers over this contract
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Agreed. It's not cap circumvention but it hurts the union and future players contract negotiations.
It's also a massive risk Leblanc is taking. God forbid he gets hurt.
Does it really?
The players (PA) get 50% of HRR, regardless of whether LeBlanc signs for $1m or $5m. The amount of $$ available to them as a whole doesn't change at all, and it's more than made up for by the number of players signed to contracts that are too high.
For every Leblanc "he didn't sign for max $$ contract", there's a Lucic type contract that ties up too much cap in one player and means a guy somewhere else gets squeezed out of the system (Beleskey could be an example very soon).
Normally I'm all for Union solidarity, but the NHLPA is pretty far removed form a normal union...
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OTOH unions work as much through seniority as solidarity. As young players continue to out-price veterans, this deal could seem a throw-back to more traditional pecking order for older players who were bent over for years only to be dumped five, six years earlier than they ever expected to be (see Simmonds, Maroon, etc.)
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Labanc will get a "normal" contract in half a year so this $1m/y will become an afterthought for other contracts negotiation purposes in no time (if ever).
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just wondering if we force ADA and Lemieux to sign their qualifying offers since they have no leverage is that cap circumvention or using the system? cause sharks could have made leblanc sign his qualifying offer which would have been even less than $1 mil
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https://www.tsn.ca/former-nashville-predators-captain-greg-johnson-dead-at-the-age-of-48-1.1335286
Really upsetting news, good guy and a good player.
Really upsetting news, good guy and a good player.
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Not anymore shady than giving an offer sheet to a player that you know his team will match.
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Seriously, what happened to bowman? Built some of the best teams in modern times and then totally lost it.
Why would Chicago make this trade and give up on a very promising young dman??? It's like if we traded one of our young upcoming dmen for Nylander (like a Miller, Nils or Fox) I would be livid.
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