Around the NHL (Part XIII): RIP Bob Suter

[Taze em]

they are not the same Player....

Same age, both great skating PMD with almost identical point outputs who play PP2 and the same defensive knocks. H'll they are even both college playing Minnesotans. One was #16 pick the other was #17. I don't know that there are 2 more identical players in the NHL.

Leddy +4 cfrel
Gardiner +5

 

[Hawkaholic]

IMO, Gardiner has passed Leddy and Toronto is banking on him being a top 3 Dman. If Leddy wants 4mil, bye bye.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Ken Campbell @THNKenCampbell: P.K. Subban seeking $8.5 million in arbitration and the Canadiens are seeking $5.25 million on a one-year deal.

I don't understand why Habs have been giving Subban so much trouble in contract talks. Subban signed bridge deal they wanted 2 years ago and won Norris and became face of franchise

Why the Habs continue to drag this on instead of giving him a longterm big $$$ deal I just don't understand

 

[Callidusblackhawk]

IMO, Gardiner has passed Leddy and Toronto is banking on him being a top 3 Dman. If Leddy wants 4mil, bye bye.

If Leddy can prove that he can be a top-4 dman with us I wouldn't be upset with a 4mil cap hit for him. 4mil is too much for a third pairing guy though.

Also, add me to the list of people that don't get what the Habs are doing at all, its like they want him to bolt at UFA. In fact I hope he does exactly that.

 

[No Fun Shogun]

Habs almost seem intent to try to push him out the door. They already got bit by going for a bridge contract, watch Subban have just have another explosive year and have his asking price get driven even higher up.

 

[x Tame Impala]

Are they trying to make him walk or something? #1 defenseman don't grow on trees. Super talented, hard worker. Just pay the man already

 

[UsernameWasTaken]

re Subban - what a joke. I'm disgusted by their handling of him the past two contracts. That's no way to treat the guy who, outside Price arguably, is your most important player.

That's one thing I do appreciate about the Hawks - they seem to treat players very well, whether it's in contract negotiations, trades, etc.

I have to say Bergevin seems like a real ego maniac, tbh. I found the way he and Therrien tried to take credit for Subban's success, liked they'd 'tamed' him, to be very off putting.

The $8.5 m he's seeking is very reasonable.

 

[Nothingman*]

$5.25mm for Subban is a slap in the face. He is well worth the $8.5.

 

[Chris Hansen]

In the current cap world, $8.5M for a player as good as Subban is a great deal. He could easily call for more than 9.

The Habs are really, really dumb.

 

[Hawkaholic]

If I'm Subban, I take a 1 year deal (or 2 if that's what it takes to get him to UFA) and go some place where I feel wanted and appreciated.

 

[pvr]

It would be an epic fail on the Habs part, akin to losing Roy, if he ends up walking, or wanting out, because of their mishandling of him.

 

[ColdSteel2]

It would be an epic fail on the Habs part, akin to losing Roy, if he ends up walking, or wanting out, because of their mishandling of him.

Yup, just ask him what he wants and give it to him. They don't have many top end players. No brainer. I hope he walks and goes to the Leafs.

 

[Pepe Silvia]

I hope he walks and goes to the Leafs.

I was thinking the same thing. The butt hurt from Montreal would be hilarious. Plus Subban and Phaneuf would be a pretty sick first pairing.

Toronto has basically no cap space now, but I could eventually see him playing there.

 

[No Fun Shogun]

Soldier Field Stadium Series game on NHL Network right now, just FYI.

... oh God, just showed the crazy masked Roenick part....

 

[Bubba88]

Gotta like the Habs

 

[UsernameWasTaken]

So there was no pre-arbitration settlement. They're actually going through with the hearing...and insisting that Subban should get paid $5.25 m/year. How do you do that with your team's star player

 

[Kurtosis]

The Habs are moronic. They still aren't as idiotic as the Leafs though.

What's up with terrible management in Canada?

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

Habs need another Subban level talent, no clue why they're playing hard ball.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Interesting to see they gave Carey Price a big payday and never asked him to "prove it" but are putting Subban thru all this nonsense when he is face of franchise and best player

I hope that PK walks in 2 years to Boston replacing Chara ,, Would be exactly what Habs management deserves

 

[Nothingman*]

Interesting to see they gave Carey Price a big payday and never asked him to "prove it" but are putting Subban thru all this nonsense when he is face of franchise and best player

I hope that PK walks in 2 years to Boston replacing Chara ,, Would be exactly what Habs management deserves

That is what I don't understand. Who in the Habs office does not like the guy?!

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Hearing is over now

We all now wait to see what he gets

 

[Hawkaholic]

Interesting comments from Subban..

Chris Johnston ‏@reporterchris · 4m
P.K. Subban says no deal was reached today. Arbitrator will decide his contract for next season. "We have to live with those decisions."

Chris Johnston ‏@reporterchris · 3m
Subban: "It's been an educational process for me."

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Chris Johnston ‏@reporterchris 30 s
Don Meehan tells Sportsnet that there are no plans to continue negotiating a long-term deal for Subban before the arbitrator's award

Hugh Burrill ‏@SNhughburrill 2 min
Habs GM Marc Bergevin while leaving Subban hearing:"I've nothing to say guys, so don't ask me."

Yeah the Habs ###### up ,,,, No doubt Subban is already thinking of summer of 2016 as UFA

 

[ColdSteel2]

Yeah, I just don't think they would let him walk. He's on his way out for sure though. His trade value is going to be ****** though.

 

[UsernameWasTaken]

Yeah, I just don't think they would let him walk. He's on his way out for sure though. His trade value is going to be ****** though.

On the Habs board, they think that Subban for Malkin would be reasonable value