Around the NHL 11 - 2023/24

[snowkiddin]

They won't do anything. They didn't do anything the first time, they'll just pass this over as a continuation of the first claim and that'll be that.

Yeah, that’s how I see things going too.

 

[Romang67]

They won't do anything. They didn't do anything the first time, they'll just pass this over as a continuation of the first claim and that'll be that.

It is. This was in the original report.

 

[tbcwpg]

It is. This was in the original report.

I know it is, but it's come to the public eye again and there'll be renewed calls for action from the fans. That's what the league will say to explain why they aren't doing anything.

 

[surixon]

They won't do anything. They didn't do anything the first time, they'll just pass this over as a continuation of the first claim and that'll be that.

Yup, heads already rolled for in Chicago's front office. This will just be settled out of court.

What this might do is further delay Bowman and Quinville getting reinstated as the news will be front and center now for a bit.

 

[ps241]

Bloom is off the rose with the Klingberg signing in Toronto, they are starting to figure out what everyone knew about him that his best years are way behind him.

Klinger is a PP specialist 3rd pairing D man that is soft as baby shit and a liabIlity defensively. Seemed like an odd way to allocate $4.15 million of cap space at the time. I didn’t know that their PP needed help but who knows I guess. Also I am not sure a team that has struggled in the playoffs wants to add a guy like Klingberg for that time of year.

 

[WolfHouse]

Klinger is a PP specialist 3rd pairing D man that is soft as baby shit and a liabIlity defensively. Seemed like an odd way to allocate $4.15 million of cap space at the time. I didn’t know that their PP needed help but who knows I guess. Also I am not sure a team that has struggled in the playoffs wants to add a guy like Klingberg for that time of year.

Teams are desperate for rhd... mKes for bad decisions

 

[ps241]

Teams are desperate for rhd... mKes for bad decisions

For sure but Treliving is a veteran and this was just a bad fit.

 

[WolfHouse]

For sure but Treliving is a veteran and this was just a bad fit.

Trelivings whole MO is gambling on trades/overpaying players. Everyone should have expected this in Toronto.

At least the leafs are only trapped for one season until all treliving ufas are ufas again... of course he will lose his mind at TD to keep them in the playoffs so there's that..

 

[bustamente]

Trelivings whole MO is gambling on trades/overpaying players. Everyone should have expected this in Toronto.

At least the leafs are only trapped for one season until all treliving ufas are ufas again... of course he will lose his mind at TD to keep them in the playoffs so there's that..

Everyone outside of Toronto was laughing at the 3 year contract he gave Reaves, they are still laughing

 

[nobody imp0rtant]

Yup, heads already rolled for in Chicago's front office. This will just be settled out of court.

What this might do is further delay Bowman and Quinville getting reinstated as the news will be front and center now for a bit.

Well, there is still someone from that front office that evaded the first march to the guillotine.

C'mon Lil Gary, time to right another wrong.

 

[WolfHouse]

Wow sharks give up 10 again...

 

[AlphaLackey]

Yup, heads already rolled for in Chicago's front office. This will just be settled out of court.

What this might do is further delay Bowman and Quinville getting reinstated as the news will be front and center now for a bit.

I honestly don't see Bowman or Quenville ever getting a job again in the NHL. If the NHL has more or less made good on the unofficial lifetime ban of Voynov, I think reinstating either of those two would be tantamount to resignation for Bettman and a number of others.

Wow sharks give up 10 again...

I know it might seem like piling on, but I must emphasize that this is two consecutive *home* games where they got ten put past them. I cannot even imagine what that would do to my psyche if the Jets ever dropped two straight at home by 20-3 aggregate.

Well, there is still someone from that front office that evaded the first march to the guillotine.

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C'mon Lil Gary, time to right another wrong.

He evaded the march because he had no authority to do anything other than the due diligence which he did do, and he wasn't there for much more than a cup of coffee afterwards.

 

[WolfHouse]

I know it might seem like piling on, but I must emphasize that this is two consecutive *home* games where they got ten put past them. I cannot even imagine what that would do to my psyche if the Jets ever dropped two straight at home by 20-3 aggraggregae

I'm having a hard time understanding the rebuild in San Jose... getting destroyed every game isn't good for anyone's development and there's no clear top tier in this draft so picking first is pretty meh

 

[AlphaLackey]

I'm having a hard time understanding the rebuild in San Jose... getting destroyed every game isn't good for anyone's development and there's no clear top tier in this draft so picking first is pretty meh

To me it seems like they're rebuilding because, well, what else are they gonna do? Fight for 29th?

 

[Buffdog]

I'm having a hard time understanding the rebuild in San Jose... getting destroyed every game isn't good for anyone's development and there's no clear top tier in this draft so picking first is pretty meh

Some posters here wanted the Jets to take that route

 

[Romang67]

I'm having a hard time understanding the rebuild in San Jose... getting destroyed every game isn't good for anyone's development and there's no clear top tier in this draft so picking first is pretty meh

I think most people who look at the Sharks' scores this year and point totals over the past few years incorrectly assume they have been rebuilding for a while. Last year was THE year they decided that their roster wasn't going to get it done. So they traded away Karlsson and Meier.

That plus a Couture injury and some shitty coaching was all it took for that team to become this bad. They aren't tanking for a top pick. They're just really bad, and needed to get some draft capital back.

 

[RabidOne]

For sure but Treliving is a veteran and this was just a bad fit.

Didnt Treliving sign Huberdeau and Kadri?

 

[ps241]

Didnt Treliving sign Huberdeau and Kadri?

Yes he did…..tossed a grenade in the room, walked out, closed the door. Now in fairness Klingberg is a one year term so its not a major boat anchor.

 

[tbcwpg]

I'm having a hard time understanding the rebuild in San Jose... getting destroyed every game isn't good for anyone's development and there's no clear top tier in this draft so picking first is pretty meh

Celebrini looks pretty decent. Like a Fantilli level player.

This is the reality of the NHL though. Everyone here that wanted to dump everyone in favour of playing kids and then a couple of vets to fill out the 20 spots on a nightly basis, San Jose is what the Jets would've looked like.

Fans will pay to support a young team that tries hard? From what I've seen of SJ they've been putting in the effort. We love talking about rebuilds and adding a bunch of youth and draft picks and building this prospect pool but what the Sharks are going through is what happens in season to teams that are doing the rebuilding in the offseason.

Now I'm sure they won't get smacked 10-0 every game. Arizona went winless in its first 10 last year but then put some ok results together after that. They're in for a long period of losing lots of games though. At least they'll have the advantage of being in the Bay Area when it comes time to bring in a few good UFAs or RFAs with trade protection.

 

[WolfHouse]

Some posters here wanted the Jets to take that route

The difference is that the Jets already have prospects

Celebrini looks pretty decent. Like a Fantilli level player.

This is the reality of the NHL though. Everyone here that wanted to dump everyone in favour of playing kids and then a couple of vets to fill out the 20 spots on a nightly basis, San Jose is what the Jets would've looked like.

Fans will pay to support a young team that tries hard? From what I've seen of SJ they've been putting in the effort. We love talking about rebuilds and adding a bunch of youth and draft picks and building this prospect pool but what the Sharks are going through is what happens in season to teams that are doing the rebuilding in the offseason.

Now I'm sure they won't get smacked 10-0 every game. Arizona went winless in its first 10 last year but then put some ok results together after that. They're in for a long period of losing lots of games though. At least they'll have the advantage of being in the Bay Area when it comes time to bring in a few good UFAs or RFAs with trade protection.

No one was in favor of dumping everyone haha - the only guys talking about that were the ones arguing against it.

San Jose isn't even in a rebuild... they are drifting at sea. I see no sense to griers moves.

 

[WaveRaven]

Posters here like myself wanted and still want them to rebuild because this team is going nowhere. But that doesn't mean completely sell off every player you could have still kept some core players to build around.

 

[tbcwpg]

The difference is that the Jets already have prospects

No one was in favor of dumping everyone haha - the only guys talking about that were the ones arguing against it.

San Jose isn't even in a rebuild... they are drifting at sea. I see no sense to griers moves.

A rebuild starts when you're adrift at sea and then you finally find land that you can build on. The adrift at sea part starts it off. They have vets they can't move and kids that aren't ready for the spotlight.

Maybe "everyone" is hyperbole, but San Jose has a high payroll with some vets - if the Jets are trading players like Scheifele, Hellebuyck, maybe Ehlers for futures - we're left with some young players who don't appear to be able to take on first line or top pairing minutes, Kyle Connor who scores and does little else, and Josh Morrissey on the backend. Their roster looks a lot like the Jets roster would do if they had moved a few of the top end guys for future players.

You can say that it would just be moving a couple of pieces to take a step back for a bit, but based on teams last year, and teams like the Sharks this year, that step back puts you in 9th-14th overall, which isn't that spectacular.

 

[surixon]

A rebuild starts when you're adrift at sea and then you finally find land that you can build on. The adrift at sea part starts it off. They have vets they can't move and kids that aren't ready for the spotlight.

Maybe "everyone" is hyperbole, but San Jose has a high payroll with some vets - if the Jets are trading players like Scheifele, Hellebuyck, maybe Ehlers for futures - we're left with some young players who don't appear to be able to take on first line or top pairing minutes, Kyle Connor who scores and does little else, and Josh Morrissey on the backend. Their roster looks a lot like the Jets roster would do if they had moved a few of the top end guys for future players.

You can say that it would just be moving a couple of pieces to take a step back for a bit, but based on teams last year, and teams like the Sharks this year, that step back puts you in 9th-14th overall, which isn't that spectacular.

We are still seeing rebuilds drag on like Buffalo and Ottawa as well.

Some like Anaheim and Detroit have shown progress this year. But it's as Chipman said, you are looking at a munnimum of 5 years but it could be much longer.

The Jets are building the same way they built towards 17-18. We just have a higher base level then we had back then as well as a Vezina goalie to build on. We will continue to integrate young players over the next few years and see if we can have a Dallas like transition.

 

[sipowicz]

I have no clue why their GM in all these years never done everything he could to solve the goaltending issue.

Oilers tied their can to McScruffy David and Dullsaddle for the distant future, no money for D or goaltending or depth for that matter!

 

[DeepFrickinValue]

Didn’t realize how shitty San Jose roster is. Yay only 4 points behind oilers.

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