Around the NHL 10 - 2022/23

[Gm0ney]

Andrew Copp on pace for about 10 goals and 45 points.
Not sure what more Detroit fans were expecting based on his history.
Oh wait, too much money!

Copp's unsustainable run with the Rangers probably added $1M in AAV to his UFA deal with Detroit. We all knew someone was going to pay him pretty big this offseason - and I'm pretty glad it wasn't the Jets...

 

[surixon]

Copp's unsustainable run with the Rangers probably added $1M in AAV to his UFA deal with Detroit. We all knew someone was going to pay him pretty big this offseason - and I'm pretty glad it wasn't the Jets...

He is what he is a good middle 6 player.

 

[CorgisPer60]

It boggles my mind that Oiler management can't build a proper team around McDrai. They look to be in a precarious spot with regards to playoffs this year in a fairly weak division.

Just horrible mismanagement over there. You basically have this generation's Crosby and Malkin, but you don't have a Letang or a Fleury. Darnell Nurse isn't it. Their depth is also f***ing atrocious. Those guys are going to go elsewhere when their contracts are up. Edmonton will have wasted them, like everyone expected them to. Ken Holland is a fraud.

 

[surixon]

Just horrible mismanagement over there. You basically have this generation's Crosby and Malkin, but you don't have a Letang or a Fleury. Darnell Nurse isn't it. Their depth is also f***ing atrocious. Those guys are going to go elsewhere when their contracts are up. Edmonton will have wasted them, like everyone expected them to. Ken Holland is a fraud.

It's not like MAF was great for the Pens a good portion of the playoffs he played for them.

They should have more then enough upfront with real good top 6 talent in Kane, RNH and Hyman. I have no clue how they have drafted so poorly that they can't assemble 3 real strong lines around what they have.

Sure the defense isn't great but if their forwards actually bought into stronger two-way play they should still be able to ice a quality roster.

 

[RabidOne]

Listening to Vancouver morning sports radio and holy crap Drance is out to lunch.
This morning he talks about Stanley as a good young defenceman, yesterday he mentioned Zach Sanford in our bottom 6.

 

[surixon]

Listening to Vancouver morning sports radio and holy crap Drance is out to lunch.
This morning he talks about Stanley as a good young defenceman, yesterday he mentioned Zach Sanford in our bottom 6.

In all honesty I think GMs still have a massive size and grit bias. It's why we can get a good defensive dmen in DeMelo for a mid round pick at the deadline while an inferior player in Ben f***ing Chariot returns a unprotected first.

I'd imagine despite what we as fans think some GM would be willing to pay something good for Stanley.

 

[RabidOne]

In all honesty I think GMs still have a massive size and grit bias. It's why we can get a good defensive dmen in DeMelo for a mid round pick at the deadline while an inferior player in Ben f***ing Chariot returns a unprotected first.

I'd imagine despite what we as fans think some GM would be willing to pay something good for Stanley.

Make it so!

 

[None]

It's why we can get a good defensive dmen in DeMelo for a mid round pick at the deadline

And probably plays a part in why he went through the expansion draft. It's kind of crazy that another team didn't make a side deal with Seattle to pick a couple of the players that were left exposed in exchange for Seattle draft capital. And not just for Demelo, but other players that were left exposed by other teams too.

Then again, Seattle didn't seem very willing to make deals so

 

[AlphaLackey]

And signing Campbell

The sight of him sitting on his ass in despair as the puck fluttered off his glove and in on the 5-2 goal.. too sweet.

 

[CorgisPer60]

Listening to Vancouver morning sports radio and holy crap Drance is out to lunch.
This morning he talks about Stanley as a good young defenceman, yesterday he mentioned Zach Sanford in our bottom 6.

If somebody wants to give up a great prospect or middle six winger for Logan Stanley's service, they should line up for it.

 

[The Blue Baron]

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Congrats to exJet HC Paul Maurice on 700………….oh that’s losses!

LMAO

what a turd in the bowl!

 

[DeepFrickinValue]

Things like 9 Mill for a guy like Nurse will do that.

How bad value is nurse? I thought he was decent a few years ago. I Tend to ignore everything Alberta. (Did they get a new premier more than 15 minutes ago?)

If somebody wants to give up a great prospect or middle six winger for Logan Stanley's service, they should line up for it.

Stanley was a pretty good playoff performer, iirc.

 

[surixon]

And probably plays a part in why he went through the expansion draft. It's kind of crazy that another team didn't make a side deal with Seattle to pick a couple of the players that were left exposed in exchange for Seattle draft capital. And not just for Demelo, but other players that were left exposed by other teams too.

Then again, Seattle didn't seem very willing to make deals so

Francis overplayed his hand. He was asking for too high of prices so teams said f*** it and let him make his picks.

 

[None]

Francis overplayed his hand. He was asking for too high of prices so teams said f*** it and let him make his picks.

I'm just surprised that teams didn't approach either expansion drafts telling Francis and McPhee "If X is available we'll give you Y+ for X."

 

[surixon]

I'm just surprised that teams didn't approach either expansion drafts telling Francis and McPhee "If X is available we'll give you Y+ for X."

Yeah, not sure why we didn't see more of those types of moves.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Drouin is French and Serg needed time to marinate. The Habs have blinders for anything Francais, especially their media.

And they thought they could convert him (overnight) into a C. They were seriously desperate for a top 6 C.

It boggles my mind that Oiler management can't build a proper team around McDrai. They look to be in a precarious spot with regards to playoffs this year in a fairly weak division.

19 games of Jack Campbell hasn't helped.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Copp's unsustainable run with the Rangers probably added $1M in AAV to his UFA deal with Detroit. We all knew someone was going to pay him pretty big this offseason - and I'm pretty glad it wasn't the Jets...

I wouldn't mind having him for that 1 mil less though.

 

[SCP Guy]

I wouldn't mind having him for that 1 mil less though.

Problem is to come back to Winnipeg it would have cost you 1 mil more

 

[Gm0ney]

I wouldn't mind having him for that 1 mil less though.

Yeah ~$4.5M sounds about right. Too bad the Jets have $12M tied up in Pionk and Schmidt or they might be able to afford some luxuries..

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

In all honesty I think GMs still have a massive size and grit bias. It's why we can get a good defensive dmen in DeMelo for a mid round pick at the deadline while an inferior player in Ben f***ing Chariot returns a unprotected first.

I'd imagine despite what we as fans think some GM would be willing to pay something good for Stanley.

I agree but I think we should move quickly. They will figure it out eventually.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

And probably plays a part in why he went through the expansion draft. It's kind of crazy that another team didn't make a side deal with Seattle to pick a couple of the players that were left exposed in exchange for Seattle draft capital. And not just for Demelo, but other players that were left exposed by other teams too.

Then again, Seattle didn't seem very willing to make deals so

We got Appleton back for a 4th. Regardless of anyone's opinion on Apples, it means we got through that expansion draft for a 4th. We were in a much weaker position than we were for the Vegas draft. Our best young players were exempt from that one.

I guess I could look at it as the results evened out.

 

[Jets 31]

I just wonder how much longer until McDavid demands out of Edmonton.

Yeah ~$4.5M sounds about right. Too bad the Jets have $12M tied up in Pionk and Schmidt or they might be able to afford some luxuries..

I don't think the Jets miss Copp at all right now, i like our bottom 6 and we don't have Appleton playing yet either.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Yeah ~$4.5M sounds about right. Too bad the Jets have $12M tied up in Pionk and Schmidt or they might be able to afford some luxuries..

Really need to do something about that before next year.

I know Jets avoid buyouts, but Pionk's contract can be bought out quite well. Only 625k next year, which is when we would most need it. After next year Wheeler's cap hit becomes available and the cap should be rising. The buyout would then be costing us a little over 2 mil for each of 3 more years.

I would hate to have to do that, but between the way he is playing and the size of his contract that may be the best way. IDK if he is tradeable even with heavy retention.

Smitty should be moveable but I would rather keep him of the 2.

 

[None]

We got Appleton back for a 4th.

I was thinking more immediate flipping of players for prospects or draft picks; not where Appleton played something like 50 games for them before being dealt back to the Jets. He was also disappointing in Seattle where he was touted by Francis at the expansion draft as being a top 6 forward

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I just wonder how much longer until McDavid demands out of Edmonton.


I don't think the Jets miss Copp at all right now, i like our bottom 6 and we don't have Appleton playing yet either.

We missed him all the time that Ehlers was out. He was the best middle 6'er to move up if we had had him. The same would apply if we have another top 6 injury, and he can play any F position.

Otherwise, I think he would make our bottom 6 a little better, but really not enough to justify the additional cost.

I was thinking more immediate flipping of players for prospects or draft picks; not where Appleton played something like 50 games for them before being dealt back to the Jets. He was also disappointing in Seattle where he was touted by Francis at the expansion draft as being a top 6 forward

Ya, but like I said, regardless of how you may feel about Apples, the fact is that the Seattle expansion cost us a 4th in the end.