Around the NHL 10 - 2022/23

[bustamente]

Canucks have tied it up in the third Bruce there it is

 

[mathonwy]

Stud.

 

[JetsFan815]

Crazy Canucks-Habs game. Habs up 4-0. Canucks score 5 straight to lead 5-4, Habs retake the lead and go up 6-5 with 3 mins to go. Jets legend Kovacevic takes a tripping penalty in 1.5 min to go. Canucks tie it up and then win 7-6 in OT.

 

[roccerfeller]

It will become apparent is it hasn't already that Boudreau was not the right coach for the Canucks but it will be to late as they miss the playoffs yet again

And yet everyone seemed to be signing his praises last year. Crazy how quickly things can change

 

[JetsFan815]

New Bruce Boudreau gif

 

[None]

And yet everyone seemed to be signing his praises last year. Crazy how quickly things can change

They went from being something like ~.300 Pts% under Green to ~.675 or somewhere around there, the guy deserved all the praise he was getting. He's also a lame duck, playing out a team and coach elected option year. It's been clear the entire time that Rutherford didn't like Boudreau but that combined with being in a lame duck contract situation will always make a coach make decisions that they otherwise wouldn't make.

And that's ignoring the roster issues. You've got players with personal issues underperforming, some of the worst goaltending in the league, and two hilariously overpaid defensemen playing far above their actual abilities at this point in their careers. And they also gave up assets for one of those defensemen who's signed for another 4 seasons past this, one with a full no movement clause and a cap hit that makes him unmovable even if they try.

Edit: coach, not club

 

[DRW204]

They went from being something like ~.300 Pts% under Green to ~.675 or somewhere around there, the guy deserved all the praise he was getting. He's also a lame duck, playing out a team and club elected option year. It's been clear the entire time that Rutherford didn't like Boudreau but that combined with being in a lame duck contract situation will always make a coach make decisions that they otherwise wouldn't make.

And that's ignoring the roster issues. You've got players with personal issues underperforming, some of the worst goaltending in the league, and two hilariously overpaid defensemen playing far above their actual abilities at this point in their careers. And they also gave up assets for one of those defensemen who's signed for another 4 seasons past this, one with a full no movement clause and a cap hit that makes him unmovable even if they try.

the canucks are a tire-fire of an organization, on and off the ice. the praise Boudreau got last year was well-warranted based on the predecessor. for whatever reason he wasn't new management's guy.

 

[Adam da bomb]

Who is this year’s Terry? A player ona bad team that comes out and dominates? Kuz on Vancouver?

 

[TS Quint]

And yet everyone seemed to be signing his praises last year. Crazy how quickly things can change

I think Budreau has enough history behind him to say this Canucks "management" is the problem. That's not a good roster. It was being held together by Demko. They think Myers and Poolman are worthwhile FA signings. That Miller signing should keep them dog shit for a couple extra years. Just been one bad off season after another.

 

[BoneDocUK]

Maybe they should take down the sign above the Canucks locker room door:
“Abandon all hope ye who skate here”

Ah yes.

Poor old Dante Aquilini...

I don't get the Canucks. They've got some great young talent, some decent older talent, a solid coach, and it has been a place at time where FAs were happy to sign.

What went wrong? I mean, besides building their D on Jets' castoffs?

 

[RabidOne]

Ah yes.

Poor old Dante Aquilini.

I don't get the Canucks. They've got some great young talent, some decent older talent, a solid coach, and it has been a place at time where FAs were happy to sign.

What went wrong? I mean, besides building their D on Jets' castoffs?

Who knows? Is Rutherford right that they don't play with structure? They have no problem scoring but there D is atrocious. Is that a team thing or a case of a horrible D core, or both?

 

[SUX2BU]

Canucks down 4-0 in the first to the Habs, Bruce there you go

Maybe they should take down the sign above the Canucks locker room door:
“Abandon all hope ye who skate here”

Yesterday was the one year anniversity of the Jim Benning firing ............ maybe he should be brought back

 

[raideralex99]

What a crazy season ... 4 goal leads are no longer a safe lead.
Stars scored 4 goals in the 3rd to tied up the game on the weekend too.
Maybe the betting has something to do with it or we are back to wide open hockey ... lots of goals.

 

[RabidOne]

What a crazy season ... 4 goal leads are no longer a safe lead.
Stars scored 4 goals in the 3rd to tied up the game on the weekend too.
Maybe the betting has something to do with it or we are back to wide open hockey ... lots of goals.

Habs fan at work said it's the most dangerous lead in hockey: 4 goals in the first period!

 

[tbcwpg]

Who knows? Is Rutherford right that they don't play with structure? They have no problem scoring but there D is atrocious. Is that a team thing or a case of a horrible D core, or both?

D sucks, Demko has made Pavelec look like Hasek, Boeser has been invisible.

 

[JetsFan815]

Ah yes.

Poor old Dante Aquilini...

I don't get the Canucks. They've got some great young talent, some decent older talent, a solid coach, and it has been a place at time where FAs were happy to sign.

What went wrong? I mean, besides building their D on Jets' castoffs?

A series of terrible UFA signings that effectively closed their window with the Petterson core before it ever opened. Even worse, instead of just biting the bullet with those UFA signings they tried to get out of them and made the problem even worse by acquiring a player with even bigger caphit and longer term.

There was that one season a few years ago where they signed a bunch of 4th liners to big term deal. Roussel and Beagle were basically dead cap but their contracts would have expired in a year. But Canucks were impatient and decided to get rid of those contracts by acquiring OEL who is signed for even longer. That combined with the Myers signing has left them with no cap room.

The also have some of the most high profile draft misses that turned into absolute superstars. Drafting Virtanen over Ehlers/Nylander. Drafting Juolevi over Tkachuk. Benning screwed that club up bad. Could still recover from the draft misses but the UFA signings by the Benning regime have been too much of a weight to bear.

 

[surixon]

A series of terrible UFA signings that effectively closed their window with the Petterson core before it ever opened. Even worse, instead of just biting the bullet with those UFA signings they tried to get out of them and made the problem even worse by acquiring a player with even bigger caphit and longer term.

There was that one season a few years ago where they signed a bunch of 4th liners to big term deal. Roussel and Beagle were basically dead cap but their contracts would have expired in a year. But Canucks were impatient and decided to get rid of those contracts by acquiring OEL who is signed for even longer. That combined with the Myers signing has left them with no cap room.

The also have some of the most high profile draft misses that turned into absolute superstars. Drafting Virtanen over Ehlers/Nylander. Drafting Juolevi over Tkachuk. Benning screwed that club up bad. Could still recover from the draft misses but the UFA signings by the Benning regime have been too much of a weight to bear.

This and it also seems the management, ownership and coaching aren't on the same page this year. Clearly Bruce isn't management's choice for coach and Bruce's schemes aren't what management wants given some public comments from the POHO. Ownership brought the coach in and apparently doesn't want to eat his contract if let go so you have a bit of a mess. It also seems some players aren't happy with the org either like Boeser who was going to be scratched on Hockey Fights cancer night. Given his Dad recently passed away from it, that wasn't a good look on Vancouver's coaching and management.

 

[gojetsgo]

 

[DRW204]

Jeez. They have 1 top 6er left essentially in Rantanen

 

[AlphaLackey]

What a crazy season ... 4 goal leads are no longer a safe lead.
Stars scored 4 goals in the 3rd to tied up the game on the weekend too.
Maybe the betting has something to do with it or we are back to wide open hockey ... lots of goals.

I'd argue that neither one of those is a blown lead. In both cases, the team that was up by four goals at some point went on to win the game. If anything, those games showed you why a 4 goal lead is even better than a 3 goal lead

 

[tbcwpg]

Matt Murray with almost 6 goals saved above expected last night. Leafs keep winning despite their badly injured D core.

 

[DRW204]

Matt Murray with almost 6 goals saved above expected last night. Leafs keep winning despite their badly injured D core.

both their goalies are top-5 in SV% through their respective gp

 

[tbcwpg]

both their goalies are top-5 in SV% through their respective gp

Yeah it was shaky to start the year but they've been playing well for most of the season.

 

[DeepFrickinValue]

Matt Murray with almost 6 goals saved above expected last night. Leafs keep winning despite their badly injured D core.

How come no one talks about leafs ultimately having to play bruins in the playoffs? Isn’t this the real story.

I mean if the leafs pass the first round.

 

[tbcwpg]

How come no one talks about leafs ultimately having to play bruins in the playoffs? Isn’t this the real story.

I mean if the leafs pass the first round.

The Leafs fan base is definitely talking about it.