Around the NHL 10 - 2022/23

[AlphaLackey]

That's why all these graphs and charts 'win o meter' bullshit isn't worth the bytes that were used to create them. There is way too many unknowns in the data points, collection, compilation and science behind them.

Bad data in, bad data out.

So those elite few percent who consistently turn a profit on fantasy draft sports are what, then? The luckiest folks alive?

 

[Jetfaninflorida]

It's not all Maurice. He's definitely a reason why their special teams are not good, and he's got other faults but it's not ALL him.

I agree with you - It is seldom all one thing or one person.

 

[WolfgangPuck]

I don’t have any ill will towards Maurice.
Though I think He should have been fired after 2018-19 season and that was management’s decision
Helle was saving PoMo’s bacon for two years until the resignation
Once Florida gets decent goaltending and scoring PoMo will be off the hot seat.

 

[Gm0ney]

Its probably a bit early to do a happy dance regarding Maurice's failures. The Panthers have had a lot of injuries on defense and the are paying their starter $10 M to give them a .888 SV%.

I think Maurice is a good guy and a decent coach. He just way overstayed his welcome here. It is interesting to see him doing some of the same stuff in Florida that annoyed Jets fans.

I think what's happened in FLA is that when goaltending collapses it just erodes everyone's composure. Everyone tightens up, gets out of synch, stops playing the system. It's tough to pull out of that tailspin. Back in the day, teams would try a shakeup trade or just fire the coach, but things are more complicated (and more expensive, and restricted by the cap) now. Anyway, I don't know if there are many coaches who can stop that snowball once it starts rolling downhill.

 

[DRW204]

daniel sprong has had a weird last couple years lol. all this guy does is produce with his limited TOI and linemates. he was a player i brought up as a potential bottom-6er/top9er here. now top-10 in 5v5 pts/60 in the nhl. 7th in goals/60 since 2020.

 

[JetsFan815]

I know Laine fans used to say that Laine was the next Mario Lemieux level talent... there was a Lemieux in that draft, but his name was Tage Thompson not Patrick Laine. The guy is absolutely unreal and alone worth watching Sabres games.

 

[WolfHouse]

I wasn't posting it in full agreement, but he's not the only coach to give up a 2 on 0 or semi-frequent odd man rushes.

Bobrovsky hasn't been great and Knight started poorly. Anyone who watches the Panthers would've told you that in October.

The Panthers are 3rd bottom in the league for Goal Diff Above Expected, which means their finishing compared to the quality of chances they are getting is brutal, and also that the goalies have been giving up more goals than they should.

It's not all Maurice. He's definitely a reason why their special teams are not good, and he's got other faults but it's not ALL him.

All depends if this roster was built fir Maurice coaching style - which it certainly seems like it was

 

[SUX2BU]

 

[JetsFan815]

I think Maurice is a good guy and a decent coach. He just way overstayed his welcome here. It is interesting to see him doing some of the same stuff in Florida that annoyed Jets fans.

I think what's happened in FLA is that when goaltending collapses it just erodes everyone's composure. Everyone tightens up, gets out of synch, stops playing the system. It's tough to pull out of that tailspin. Back in the day, teams would try a shakeup trade or just fire the coach, but things are more complicated (and more expensive, and restricted by the cap) now. Anyway, I don't know if there are many coaches who can stop that snowball once it starts rolling downhill.

The only thing I can blame Maurice for in Florida are the Staal brothers. They were both signed after he was signed and seem like signature veteran d-man and vet penalty killing centreman moves that used to happen here every offseason during his era. It is very likely that they are his guys but even they are just 4th line/3rd pairing types and shouldn't be impacting results this much. The goalie curse that used to follow Maurice pre-Helle seems to be back for him.

 

[None]

That's his second in the last couple years, hopefully they know what's causing them and can effectively treat it.

 

[SUX2BU]

That's his second in the last couple years, hopefully they know what's causing them and can effectively treat it.

He had one in 2014

 

[SLAYER]

Holy moly, that Letang news is crazy/sad. 2nd in the past decade, hope he recovers well.

 

[None]

He had one in 2014

Further back than I thought.

 

[Tom ServoMST3K]

You can't hate on Maurice too badly, because he was the one who fired Maurice, who I hate on...

wait, what?

 

[Hobo Bob]

I'm usually more of a lurker but I've had this on my mind for a good two weeks.

 

[SUX2BU]

Jack Edwards’ (about the first minute of the game)



Pat Maroon’s response

 

[bustamente]

Jack Edwards schtick needs to go away, guy thinks that people tune in to hear him and his stupid takes

 

[BoneDocUK]

You can't hate on Maurice too badly, because he was the one who fired Maurice, who I hate on...

wait, what?

Well, here's the view from corporate...

 

[sipowicz]

The only thing I can blame Maurice for in Florida are the Staal brothers. They were both signed after he was signed and seem like signature veteran d-man and vet penalty killing centreman moves that used to happen here every offseason during his era. It is very likely that they are his guys but even they are just 4th line/3rd pairing types and shouldn't be impacting results this much. The goalie curse that used to follow Maurice pre-Helle seems to be back for him.

Maurice is an average coach at best and his coaching record and trends prove it, even with teams that have talent he can't make it work!

He's almost at his natural .500 coaching record with the Panthers and it won't be long, 1 win in the last 7 games, he'll be let go near the end of the season or shortly after!

 

[B33R LEAGUE]

Florida in 21st place based on W%.

Last year they were 1st Overall.

That’s a far fall from grace.

 

[surixon]

The only thing I can blame Maurice for in Florida are the Staal brothers. They were both signed after he was signed and seem like signature veteran d-man and vet penalty killing centreman moves that used to happen here every offseason during his era. It is very likely that they are his guys but even they are just 4th line/3rd pairing types and shouldn't be impacting results this much. The goalie curse that used to follow Maurice pre-Helle seems to be back for him.

Sure but he's been using Staal the same way he used Poolman. Playing him way above his capabilities. So yes a Staal playing top 3 d minutes will have an impact.

That might be more an indictment on their GM for their dcore but we've seen that same old song and dance here.

 

[DRW204]

Jack Edwards’ (about the first minute of the game)



Pat Maroon’s response

props to maroon.
the guy laughing w/ edwards should get some heat too.

nothing unites NHL teams, fans etc as well as shitting on Jack Edwards. love to see it.

 

[sipowicz]

Florida in 21st place based on W%.

Last year they were 1st Overall.

That’s a far fall from grace.

 

[DRW204]

Florida in 21st place based on W%.

Last year they were 1st Overall.

That’s a far fall from grace.

i expected them to fall back, not many team ever repeat 120+ pt years, even 110+. but this much was a bit of a surprise to me.

 

[DRW204]