Around the NHL 10 - 2022/23

[Jet]

I still think the stars could align for the Jets.

If they can get it sorted out by playoffs which I think they will, and someone knocks out the Avs, the road to the finals becomes easier than it has been in years (not easy, but easier).

The East kicks the shit out of each other and only one can come out.

Maybe NJ goes on a run??

Like every playoffs, a lot has to go right for any team that wins but we have Hellebuyck, guys who can score (its true) and systems made for the post season.

Neiderreiter is a guy made for the playoffs, too. I'd love to snag a guy who can win faceoffs and is really good defensively and maybe another scoring RW.

This is the year imho

 

[surixon]

I still think the stars could align for the Jets.

If they can get it sorted out by playoffs which I think they will, and someone knocks out the Avs, the road to the finals becomes easier than it has been in years (not easy, but easier).

The East kicks the shit out of each other and only one can come out.

Maybe NJ goes on a run??

Like every playoffs, a lot has to go right for any team that wins but we have Hellebuyck, guys who can score (its true) and systems made for the post season.

Neiderreiter is a guy made for the playoffs, too. I'd love to snag a guy who can win faceoffs and is really good defensively and maybe another scoring RW.

This is the year imho

The team really just needs to start finishing again. I think the lack of finish over an extend period (20 games) has put pressure on the key guys and they are now deviating from the scheme and cheating to try to get goals. If we can get that workman like effort back and get some goals and the pressure decreases then I see them getting back to solid systems play. It's easy to keep a system in place when things are good, much harder when things start to unravel.

 

[Jet]

The team really just needs to start finishing again. I think the lack of finish over an extend period (20 games) has put pressure on the key guys and they are now deviating from the scheme and cheating to try to get goals. If we can get that workman like effort back and get some goals and the pressure decreases then I see them getting back to solid systems play. It's easy to keep a system in place when things are good, much harder when things start to unravel.

I am really curious about the impact of Brad Lauer being out.

To me, Bowness seems like the big picture guy, and Lauer is the x's and o's coach.

 

[Channelcat]

Avs will be first in the central pretty soon, 6 straight wins

Gonna be alot of sad, sad faces out east if Avs win it all.

I am really curious about the impact of Brad Lauer being out.

To me, Bowness seems like the big picture guy, and Lauer is the x's and o's coach.

Normally I'd say no big deal, but we saw what happened when Woodcraft left.

 

[Thechozen1]

So... who do ppl think is gonna get Connor Bedard?

I'm leaning SJ at this point.

The Sharks or Blue Jackets is where I want to see him end up.

 

[tbcwpg]

So... who do ppl think is gonna get Connor Bedard?

I'm leaning SJ at this point.

Anaheim. I've watched a couple of their games recently, they're really bad.

 

[Thechozen1]

I’m ready to see those stingy Islanders look weak against the Wild tonight because that’s how things roll for the Jets.

 

[BoneDocUK]

Gonna be alot of sad, sad faces out east if Avs win it all.


Normally I'd say no big deal, but we saw what happened when Woodcraft left.

And when Kompon had to coach via Zoom. Definitely a factor.

 

[CorgisPer60]

This kind of excites me. Something has to give on that back end. I want Stanley to succeed, but his manner of play is very cognizant on sheltering and systems.

 

[surixon]

This kind of excites me. Something has to give on that back end. I want Stanley to succeed, but his manner of play is very cognizant on sheltering and systems.

He's expendable as Snerg has clearly passed him on the depth chart. If a team still believes in best to get some assets for him.

 

[DeepFrickinValue]

This kind of excites me. Something has to give on that back end. I want Stanley to succeed, but his manner of play is very cognizant on sheltering and systems.

I bet Chevy lands a first and a prospect for Stanley.

 

[KingBogo]

I bet Chevy lands a first and a prospect for Stanley.

If some GM out there thinks Stanley is worth that much, man I hope Chevy tracks him down and moves quick on it.

 

[surixon]

If some GM out there thinks Stanley is worth that much, man I hope Chevy tracks him down and moves quick on it.

It's not unprecedented, Griffen Reinhart returned the pick that became Barzal.

I think Chevy could get a second for him easily, but not sure about a first.

 

[KingBogo]

It's not unprecedented, Griffen Reinhart returned the pick that became Barzal.

I think Chevy could get a second for him easily, but not sure about a first.

I'd prefer at this time a GM thought of Stanley as equivalent to his draft position and Chevy was able to use that to get some help now for the team.

 

[surixon]

I'd prefer at this time a GM thought of Stanley as equivalent to his draft position and Chevy was able to use that to get some help now for the team.

Possibly could buy and sell. Maybe pay a 3rd/4th for Schenn but sell Stanley for a 1st.

Then we would have a spare 1st and maybe Chisholm type prospect for another forward piece.

 

[KingBogo]

Possibly could buy and sell. Maybe pay a 3rd/4th for Schenn but sell Stanley for a 1st.

Then we would have a spare 1st and maybe Chisholm type prospect for another forward piece.

We will see what Chevy can pull off, but I really like the report that teams are interested in Stanley.

 

[ecolad]

The team really just needs to start finishing again. I think the lack of finish over an extend period (20 games) has put pressure on the key guys and they are now deviating from the scheme and cheating to try to get goals. If we can get that workman like effort back and get some goals and the pressure decreases then I see them getting back to solid systems play. It's easy to keep a system in place when things are good, much harder when things start to unravel.

The troubling thing of recent is the fall in xGF and more generally the fall in dangerous scoring chances. Just pointing out that the problem runs deeper than simply shooting percentage. I`m still not sure whether the problem is the players drifting out of the schemes that Bones put in place initially, or, whether Bones has in fact got even more risk averse within the schemes by design and the players are having difficulty learning what he wants.

Just taking a broad look, what do we see on the ice. The once aggressive "chip and chase to an empty spot " upon entry seems now to be "dump deep and chase". The D seem to be more hesitant to get involved offensively than they once were and seldom move from their point position.The forecheck is notably less aggressive and much slower overall. There is less emphasis to standing up at our blueline and to challenging zone entries. The team is more inclined to fall back or retrench in almost all game situations. I believe that these are all signs of Bones tightening more and more - perhaps to the point where he has gone too far and needs to rethink.

 

[Hobble]

If there is a team that is willing to overpay for Stanley, then I don't see how Chevy can refuse that.

 

[Daximus]

We will see what Chevy can pull off, but I really like the report that teams are interested in Stanley.

That seems promising. Hopefully Chevy can pull something off.

Chychrun, Parayko, Ekholm, Fabbro, Gavrikov, Schmaltz, Vrana, Bertuzzi are all guys listed on the trade boards I like as potential targets still available.

If Nashville is still interested in Stanley I wonder if we could do a lefty for righty swap. Both drafted in the same year one pick apart.

 

[surixon]

The troubling thing of recent is the fall in xGF and more generally the fall in dangerous scoring chances. Just pointing out that the problem runs deeper than simply shooting percentage. I`m still not sure whether the problem is the players drifting out of the schemes that Bones put in place initially, or, whether Bones has in fact got even more risk averse within the schemes by design and the players are having difficulty learning what he wants.

Just taking a broad look, what do we see on the ice. The once aggressive "chip and chase to an empty spot " upon entry seems now to be "dump deep and chase". The D seem to be more hesitant to get involved offensively than they once were and seldom move from their point position.The forecheck is notably less aggressive and much slower overall. There is less emphasis to standing up at our blueline and to challenging zone entries. The team is more inclined to fall back or retrench in almost all game situations. I believe that these are all signs of Bones tightening more and more - perhaps to the point where he has gone too far and needs to rethink.

Very possible. It could also be the sign of a team with low confidence and trust so you aren't seeing the same aggressiveness.

Interesting about the XGF. To me the data says we have been top 10 in the league over the last 10 games. Maybe that's more to do with tighter d at the soft of some scoring have surmised.

 

[voyageur]

Possibly could buy and sell. Maybe pay a 3rd/4th for Schenn but sell Stanley for a 1st.

Then we would have a spare 1st and maybe Chisholm type prospect for another forward piece.

I think getting a 1st for Stanley is a little optimistic. Who has their 1st left to trade? Carolina? Pittsburgh is said to not have their 1st on the table this year. Buffalo unlikely. Down to Vegas, Colorado, L.A, Edmonton, Seattle, Minnesota. Minnesota is likely to land Boeser, with some manoeuvring. I don't think any of the other challengers would have that high of an opinion of Stanley. But teams that have holes on defense for next year like Washington or Arizona makes sense. Especially if Chychrun gets moved. A Schenn for Stanley trade is pretty even. Wouldn't cost high assets beyond him. Vancouver seems to like our players. Maybe reunite Stanley-Poolman next year.

Does Chevy trade his 3rd this year? One of the two 5ths is probably available.

That's where we don't Chevy's plan for next year. St. Louis and Nashville, 2 direct rivals, and Chicago and Arizona who are more in the rebuild phase, are loaded up with picks. Our draft board looks more like Colorado's and Colorado is still the summit to climb. But with so many impending UFAs Chevy could make out with at least 3 1sts.

 

[WolfHouse]

I think getting a 1st for Stanley is a little optimistic. Who has their 1st left to trade? Carolina? Pittsburgh is said to not have their 1st on the table this year. Buffalo unlikely. Down to Vegas, Colorado, L.A, Edmonton, Seattle, Minnesota. Minnesota is likely to land Boeser, with some manoeuvring. I don't think any of the other challengers would have that high of an opinion of Stanley. But teams that have holes on defense for next year like Washington or Arizona makes sense. Especially if Chychrun gets moved. A Schenn for Stanley trade is pretty even. Wouldn't cost high assets beyond him. Vancouver seems to like our players. Maybe reunite Stanley-Poolman next year.

Does Chevy trade his 3rd this year? One of the two 5ths is probably available.

That's where we don't Chevy's plan for next year. St. Louis and Nashville, 2 direct rivals, and Chicago and Arizona who are more in the rebuild phase, are loaded up with picks. Our draft board looks more like Colorado's and Colorado is still the summit to climb. But with so many impending UFAs Chevy could make out with at least 3 1sts.

I actually thought Tampa would be interested as an size upgrade from Cole...

 

[voyageur]

I actually thought Tampa would be interested as an size upgrade from Cole...

The team I think that would give up a 2nd for him is the Rangers. They had such a struggle last after Lindgren went down. They added Mikkola, but he could play either side.

 

[cbcwpg]

This kind of excites me. Something has to give on that back end. I want Stanley to succeed, but his manner of play is very cognizant on sheltering and systems.

You can't teach 6'7".... someone out there will see that and take a stab at it, and if Chevy gets any offers for Stanley he should seriously consider them.

 

[WolfHouse]

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This kind of excites me. Something has to give on that back end. I want Stanley to succeed, but his manner of play is very cognizant on sheltering and systems.

I sure hope chevy didnt balk at stanley for nino and offer the 2nd instead...