Around the NHL – Part XL - Mod post page 249

[Boris Zubov]

Yes. He really misses Barzal Vancouver.

Fixed

 

[EdJovanovski]

Is Krav hurt or just getting scratched @EdJovanovski

Scratched, trying to fall a bit in the standings for a shot at Bedard

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Scratched, trying to fall a bit in the standings for a shot at Bedard

Lol we all know he'd be playing if this were true.

 

[McRanger92]

Isles missing the playoffs after all that would be objectively funny. The Panthers are so bad though, I doubt they take advantage of this golden opportunity.

 

[bl02]

Isles missing the playoffs after all that would be objectively funny. The Panthers are so bad though, I doubt they take advantage of this golden opportunity.

If they get Sam Bennett back I give them a shot. But you're right they are pretty inconsistent. Bobrovsky also injured and no word how bad it is. As good as Lyon has been they have very little chance if they don't get Bob back.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

Unfortunately playing with defensive structure is not our forte.

This word your using “structure” , I am able to put the letters together and make a sound but I still don’t understand it?
Is it a foreign word? What it’s meaning? Could you use it a sentence?

 

[Boris Zubov]

Isles missing the playoffs after all that would be objectively funny. The Panthers are so bad though, I doubt they take advantage of this golden opportunity.

Florida has been playing pretty well other than the game we beat them.

 

[McRanger92]

Florida has been playing pretty well other than the game we beat them.

Can't trust their goalies and they don't play team defense at all. Easy first round exit against Boston if they make it, but I could see Tkachuk willing them to a win against Carolina if that's how it shakes out. Would be good for us if we can get past the Devils.

 

[Boris Zubov]

Can't trust their goalies and they don't play team defense at all. Easy first round exit against Boston if they make it, but I could see Tkachuk willing them to a win against Carolina if that's how it shakes out. Would be good for us if we can get past the Devils.

I wasn't sizing up their chances to win a playoff series. Just meant they're playing pretty well in the last 10 days.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

@Machinehead

What do Kravtsov's "elite" defensive metrics look like as a member of the Canucks?

Asking for a friend.

 

[JimmyG89]

Think we're still going to see the Islanders and Pittsburgh in there at the end.

Islanders have 4 games, Tampa on Thursday (after Tampa plays the Rangers the night before), Philly, Montreal, and Washington. Realistically, I can see them winning all 4 (especially if Elliot is in there on the 2nd of back to backs).

Pittsburgh is at 5 games left, at NJ & vs Minny the next two which will be tough since the Devils are still working on either the division or 2nd, and the Wild are fighting for the division still. The last three, Detroit, Chicago and Columbus is a joke. Maybe Detroit gives them a game, but the last two are just there.

Panthers have it the toughest and their 5 games. On the road in Buffalo (complete outside shot of getting in), but we just saw they play hard, and then in Ottawa. Last three might be the easiest. Washington, Toronto, and Carolina. Caps looked dead in the water yesterday. Toronto and Carolina are going to be locked in to their spots most likely and could be resting guys if they can.

 

[Machinehead]

@Machinehead

What do Kravtsov's "elite" defensive metrics look like as a member of the Canucks?

Asking for a friend.

He went from 1.6 defensive GAR on the Rangers (obviously very good) to -0.3 with Vancouver.

More alarming, he went from 0 offensive GAR on the Rangers (replacement level, feels about right) to -2.2 already with Vancouver.

He's up there with some of the biggest offensive black holes in the league.

 

[Mandar]

He went from 1.6 defensive GAR on the Rangers (obviously very good) to -0.3 with Vancouver.

More alarming, he went from 0 offensive GAR on the Rangers (replacement level, feels about right) to -2.2 already with Vancouver.

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He's up there with some of the biggest offensive black holes in the league.

wait....this doesnt take into account that in 2019, he made a stickhandling move in the KHL that might have resulted in a goal, right? This also doesnt take into account that in a few PGT's in 2020, he got votes for player of the game.

Obviously, this data is flawed.

 

[duhmetreE]

He went from 1.6 defensive GAR on the Rangers (obviously very good) to -0.3 with Vancouver.

More alarming, he went from 0 offensive GAR on the Rangers (replacement level, feels about right) to -2.2 already with Vancouver.

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He's up there with some of the biggest offensive black holes in the league.

If you really want to make @EdJovanovski cry, show him in contrast to his favorite Finn, Kaapo Kakko.

 

[turcotte8]

@Machinehead

What do Kravtsov's "elite" defensive metrics look like as a member of the Canucks?

Asking for a friend.

He's helping the team tank so they can get Bedard. It's called "Leadership".

 

[duhmetreE]

Scratched, trying to fall a bit in the standings for a shot at Bedard

Why do they need Bedard if they have Kravtsov?

 

[Machinehead]

If you really want to make @EdJovanovski cry, show him in contrast to his favorite Finn, Kaapo Kakko.

Kakko has turned into a very, very good 5v5 forward who's above average at everything this year.

Except drawing penalties and that's just because you can cut his head off and not get called. I want an explanation from the league on that.

 

[cwede]

makes me think of Sam in that situation

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

He went from 1.6 defensive GAR on the Rangers (obviously very good) to -0.3 with Vancouver.

More alarming, he went from 0 offensive GAR on the Rangers (replacement level, feels about right) to -2.2 already with Vancouver.

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He's up there with some of the biggest offensive black holes in the league.

Thank you sir!

I don't know if you can date adjust, but can you do Panarin from Jan 23rd to present day just for funzies.

Thanks!

 

[Cuckoo4Kakko]

When the Canucks win the Bedard lottery and put him on a line with Krav, I pity their hfboards site. 500 posts per day from Ed blaming Bedard for Krav not being any good. He will be perma banned in a week.

 

[Machinehead]

Thank you sir!

I don't know if you can date adjust, but can you do Panarin from Jan 23rd to present day just for funzies.

Thanks!

They won't let you date range on the player cards yet

 

[Leonardo87]

makes me think of Sam in that situation

 

[Synergy27]

wait....this doesnt take into account that in 2019, he made a stickhandling move in the KHL that might have resulted in a goal, right? This also doesnt take into account that in a few PGT's in 2020, he got votes for player of the game.

Obviously, this data is flawed.

I don’t understand the dunking on this kid. He may never have lived up to his draft slot, but he was pretty clearly damaged severely, if not ruined, by how he was handled here. Handled, not treated.

He has himself to blame in many ways but he was never handled like a top ten pick that this organization had any plans to invest in.

I legitimately wonder what could have been. The kid can was surely able to play at one point.

 

[effen]

I don’t understand the dunking on this kid. He may never have lived up to his draft slot, but he was pretty clearly damaged severely, if not ruined, by how he was handled here. Handled, not treated.

He has himself to blame in many ways but he was never handled like a top ten pick that this organization had any plans to invest in.

I legitimately wonder what could have been. The kid can was surely able to play at one point.

The organization has roughly zero to do with his lack of jump or ability to process the smaller ice surface. That's all between his ears.

 

[Synergy27]

The organization has roughly zero to do with his lack of jump or ability to process the smaller ice surface. That's all between his ears.

I just disagree. I’ve never seen a top ten pick “developed” like him.

Yes, his decision to not play in the A was all on him. But it’s almost as though the org considered him dispensable once they got Kakko, and then Laf.

Everything that could go wrong went wrong with him.