Around the NHL – Part XL - Mod post page 249

[turcotte8]

Kravy is not going to the KHL..putin will enlist him

I doubt the army wants him either.

 

[blue425]

Jeez. Who's calling the Wild/Caps game? They're f***ing awful.

 

[ecemleafs]

that was an awesome hit by dumba on kuznetsov. oshie gets the instagator on the ensuing fight.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Sabres have quit

 

[PuckLuck3043]

Really disappointed that the Sabres and Sens can't get out of their own way. They had a chance at a WC and a lot of games in hand on the Piles and blew it. I guess when the games became big they couldn't handle it. Caps are done also. Now just a 3 team race for 2 spots.

 

[Synergy27]

Really disappointed that the Sabres and Sens can't get out of their own way. They had a chance at a WC and a lot of games in hand on the Piles and blew it. I guess when the games became big they couldn't handle it. Caps are done also. Now just a 3 team race for 2 spots.

I’m not sure how these models adjust for score effects at all. Seems strange that the xG and “deserve to win” would be so out of whack in a 7-0 blowout, but perhaps the goaltending was just really bad?

Anyway, this Jack Quinn kid is good eh? Buffalo has several really good pieces.

 

[duhmetreE]

Come on Tampa... clutch up. Big swing for us

 

[PuckLuck3043]

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I’m not sure how these models adjust for score effects at all. Seems strange that the xG and “deserve to win” would be so out of whack in a 7-0 blowout, but perhaps the goaltending was just really bad?

Anyway, this Jack Quinn kid is good eh? Buffalo has several really good pieces.

Yea, they have some nice pieces but they had 5 games in hand on the Piles and a real chance for a playoff spot for the first time in over a decade and they proceeded to lose 9 of 11.

 

[Hire Sather]

Come on Tampa... clutch up. Big swing for us

Really needed them to lose tonight if we wanted to catch them

 

[EdJovanovski]

LMAO Kravtsov took what I said about his beautiful locs flowing in the wind too seriously, he just got a penalty for continuing to play without a helmet

 

[Hire Sather]

Yea, they have some nice pieces but they had 5 games in hand on the Piles and a real chance for a playoff spot for the first time in over a decade and they proceeded to lose 9 of 11.

Buffalo has had pieces for a decade.

Hard to shake the losing culture they built over there




Hurts the Devils flipped that game

 

[frozenrubber]

LMAO Kravtsov took what I said about his beautiful locs flowing in the wind too seriously, he just got a penalty for continuing to play without a helmet

Kravtsov should seek an exemption to wearing a helmet, it's not like there is anything underneath his bucket worthy of damage

 

[egelband]

A stats class would help out a lot of these assumptions on developmental ability.

They all hire from the same pool. No one is teaching 3 on 2 drills any differently than anyone else. Lotta being fooled by randomness.

Randomness and also, players I’d argue generally don’t stay with one team their whole career and I’d suggest it’s normal for players to develop to a certain level, then move on to a team that has a spot for them or otherwise is a better fit.
If we’re killing the rangers for Buchnevich breaking out can we praise the rangers for “developing” Panarin?

 

[will1066]

Plenty of time to watch Cocaine Bear now. --Kuznetzov

 

[ReddestRum]

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I’m not sure how these models adjust for score effects at all. Seems strange that the xG and “deserve to win” would be so out of whack in a 7-0 blowout, but perhaps the goaltending was just really bad?

Anyway, this Jack Quinn kid is good eh? Buffalo has several really good pieces.

LOL.

 

[eco's bones]

However much having the likes of Zibanejad, Panarin, Kreider etc. may have slowed the development of Lafreniere and Kakko having veteran leadership has helped the Rangers to get back to being a playoff team a lot faster and it is having a stable culture in the locker room. Segueing as will from Henrik to Igor helped for sure too but for all the drooling after the numbers that Stutzle or Zegras are putting up for those teams it could be years still before their teams are playoff teams and for teams without that stability in their locker room getting competitive is one thing but taking that step to the playoffs is another animal beyond all that. It's tough for some very good teams just to get beyond the first round.

 

[Draft Guru]

Buffalo has had pieces for a decade.

Hard to shake the losing culture they built over there




Hurts the Devils flipped that game

Buffalo is going to be an absolute wagon in the next few years. The stink of Eichel is finally gone and they've certainly turned a corner.

They just signed Devon Levi who, if as good as advertised, will be a rock in net for the next decade. Their goaltending this year has been pretty awful.

They got three legit studs in the first round this past year. Pipeline is loaded. So is the talent at the NHL level.

Only a matter of time for that team.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

Buffalo is going to be an absolute wagon in the next few years. The stink of Eichel is finally gone and they've certainly turned a corner.

They just signed Devon Levi who, if as good as advertised, will be a rock in net for the next decade. Their goaltending this year has been pretty awful.

They got three legit studs in the first round this past year. Pipeline is loaded. So is the talent at the NHL level.

Only a matter of time for that team.

We'll see. It's been 12 years not making the playoffs. I mean they can't be bad forever right? They had a real shot at making it this year and they absolutely shit the bed losing 9 of 11.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

Reavo has 7 points in his last 10. Our kids combined in 10 have 9.


LOL.

These charts are a joke in games like this. Rangers could have won 10-0 if they wanted to.

 

[Machinehead]

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I’m not sure how these models adjust for score effects at all. Seems strange that the xG and “deserve to win” would be so out of whack in a 7-0 blowout, but perhaps the goaltending was just really bad?

Anyway, this Jack Quinn kid is good eh? Buffalo has several really good pieces.

Analytics get out of whack in blowouts for a couple of reasons.

1) Goaltending is obviously huge. NHL teams shouldn't score 7 goals and it doesn't matter how good their chances were. Anything over 3.5 is a massive amount. Most great chances still get stopped.

2) You need sustained possession and multiple chances to build up xG. Even on plays where we say the goalie had "no chance," a single shot might be, max, 0.3-0.4 xG. That's arguably a flaw in the stat. I mean, Panarin's goal last night off the Kane feed was an empty net from the crease. There's no reason for that to not be 0.99 xG's right there, but that's another story. I think those plays are also an exception anyway. Suffice to say, a lot of the possessions where you would build up shots and chances and accumulate xG are ending quickly because you scored already.

It was an old, old criticism of corsi back in the day to say "well what if I have less shot attempts because I scored on my first one?" You know what? Eight years later, I think we're finding that this has a lot of merit.

It goes the other way too. Good teams whose weakness is offense (12-14 Kings, Hurricanes the last few years) have over-inflated analytics because it takes them 20 shot attempts to score.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

I doubt the army wants him either.

God damn lmao

Reavo has 7 points in his last 10. Our kids combined in 10 have 9.


LOL.

Wait. Is this real?

 

[duhmetreE]

I just realized McDavid is living out the Michael Jordan meme....

Auston Matthews took the Hart from him last season, because he scored 60 goals.... McDavid took that personally.

I hope he gets 70, hasn't been done since Mogilny and rookie Selanne in 92-93

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

There is no way McDavid doesn't win the MVP and he should.

If the Panthers get into the playoffs and Matthew Tkachuk doesn't finish 2nd the voters are stupid.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Penguins got goalie'd by a guy en route to his first NHL win and are currently out of playoff position with the Panthers also winning LOL.

 

[NCRanger]

Penguins got goalied by Dylan Ferguson, making his first career start.