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Sabres and Caps both down 4 zip against very winnable teams. Running out of runway for that last WC spot.

Don't hate the Sabres and would take them over the Isles, but dang do I love to see the Caps finally falling off. Now for the Pens to kindly eff off as well!
 
Who would’ve guessed that Sammy Blais would have more goals than Vladimir Tarasenko since the trade.

That second one was nice. Parked himself in front of the net, caused some havoc, then slid back to mid-slot and ripped it. So it wasn't his leg. It was NY.
 
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Caps and Buffalo apparently hand delivering a spot to the Isles and Pens on a paper plate.

Let's see if Florida has some fight left in that kitty cat.

Sammy the lamp lighter x2!
 
I think people tend to underestimate how much of a factor living and playing in NY is. There's a difference between representing one of the biggest and most prominent cities in the world vs. some city that 80% of Americans can't pinpoint on a map.

And it's not even all on the ice, it's just generally much harder to really relax and gather yourself here with all the constant hustle and bustle and whatnot. Blais doesn't really seem like the big city type - bet he couldn't wait to get the hell out.
 
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That second one was nice. Parked himself in front of the net, caused some havoc, then slid back to mid-slot and ripped it. So it wasn't his leg. It was NY.
I’m telling you. They need to change everything in how they approach the game.

Drury cleaned house in scouting. He needs to continue on in every other aspect that has been lagging behind
 
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I think people tend to underestimate how much of a factor living and playing in NY is. There's a difference between representing one of the biggest and most prominent cities in the world vs. some city that 80% of Americans can't pinpoint on a map.

And it's not even all on the ice, it's just generally much harder to really relax and gather yourself here with all the constant hustle and bustle and whatnot. Blais doesn't really seem like the big city type - bet he couldn't wait to get the hell out.
Yeah, he was immediately under the microscope just by being connected to the Buch trade. There were some rabid sicko fans that even got his sister involved and accused him of incest. Coming to NY was probably a pretty dark chapter in the guys life.
 
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I’m telling you. They need to change everything in how they approach the game.

Drury cleaned house in scouting. He needs to continue on in every other aspect that has been lagging behind
Or maybe nobody is to blame. What a thought. The severe injury and his long recovery was the biggest problem but maybe NY wasn't the best place for him. He was given every opportunity this year. Maybe he needed most of the year to start feeling normal again. That injury often has nearly a 2 year recovery period. That and the fact that he's comfortable in St. Louis.
 
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Howden, Andersson, and Lemieux also haven't done shit since being traded so maybe the very popular "Rangers can't develop forwards" bullshit is just well, bullshit.
yes, we develop forwards because Lias, Kravtsov and Lemieux are bad. Makes total sense. I see your logic

Blais had 54 games with the NYR. 0 goals. 16 games with Blues, 4 goals. It's a miracle, the knee was healed as soon as he was traded and it spread to his hands. It just bad timing on our part. Unlucky.

"See they can develop forwards " Checks notes for the developed forwards over the past half century... "Well look at all these two 26 year old forwards the Rangers developed... checkmate."

It's like congratulating an 18 year old for finally graduating 6th grade.

Founded in 1926... Who's the greatest forward this org developed? We have to go to the 50's and 60's? bUt rAnGeRs cAnT dEvElOp fOrWaRdS iS bUlLsHiT.... right.

Please show me how good they are at developing forwards. 40 years.... all we have is Chris Kreider... AND HALF THIS BOARD DOESN'T EVEN WANT HIM
 
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Well Kravtsov still sucks so there is that.
Kravtsov duped our scouting staff from one playoffs. He's not built for NHL hockey right now... maybe some juice could help him but if he hasn't started now, I dont see him changing much.
 
Developing players is lotto. There is no secret sauce to it. The evidence for that is f***ing everywhere.

The exception is goalie since the scope of what they do is so small and technique is so important.
 
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I think people tend to underestimate how much of a factor living and playing in NY is. There's a difference between representing one of the biggest and most prominent cities in the world vs. some city that 80% of Americans can't pinpoint on a map.

And it's not even all on the ice, it's just generally much harder to really relax and gather yourself here with all the constant hustle and bustle and whatnot. Blais doesn't really seem like the big city type - bet he couldn't wait to get the hell out.
Or he was only getting limited minutes with guys like Carpenter and Brodzinski.
 
yes, we develop forwards because Lias, Kravtsov and Lemieux are bad. Makes total sense. I see your logic

Blais had 54 games with the NYR. 0 goals. 16 games with Blues, 4 goals. It's a miracle, the knee was healed as soon as he was traded and it spread to his hands. It just bad timing on our part. Unlucky.

"See they can develop forwards " Checks notes for the developed forwards over the past half century... "Well look at all these two 26 year old forwards the Rangers developed... checkmate."

It's like congratulating an 18 year old for finally graduating 6th grade.

Founded in 1926... Who's the greatest forward this org developed? We have to go to the 50's and 60's? bUt rAnGeRs cAnT dEvElOp fOrWaRdS iS bUlLsHiT.... right.

Please show me how good they are at developing forwards. 40 years.... all we have is Chris Kreider... AND HALF THIS BOARD DOESN'T EVEN WANT HIM
Yeah wow, Blais has 4 goals in 16 games in a place that he played before and was comfortable. Sound the trumpets. Good for him though. In answer to your question Mika, Kreider, Callahan, Dunbinsky, Buchnevich, Stepan, Anisimov to name a few and who says that Laf, Chytil, and Kakko aren't developing? Total overblown bullshit and IDGAF if half the board doesn't want a guy who is going to score nearly 90 goals the last 2 years. Pretty stupid if you ask me. And my point about Kravs, Lemieux, Anderson, Howden is they suck and nobody has developed them.
 
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The knee injury Blais sufferered has always taken player a full year to get back to their baseline. That’s what I was saying for months here. Part of the reason the Rangers probably kept him around for so long was because of that fact. It’s not really a surprise he has started to play a little better towards the end of this season.
This is also why signing him to a 1 year deal was always dumb. Next year will be the year where we see a normal Blais. That normal may only be 30 points but it’s not going to be what we saw in NY
 
Yeah wow, Blais has 4 goals in 16 games in a place that he played before and was comfortable. Sound the trumpets. Good for him though. In answer to your question Mika, Kreider, Callahan, Dunbinsky, Buchnevich, Stepan, Anisimov to name a few and who says that Laf, Chytil, and Kakko aren't developing? Total overblown bullshit and IDGAF if half the board doesn't want a guy who is going to score nearly 90 goals the last 2 years. Pretty stupid if you ask me. And my point about Kravs, Lemieux, Anderson, Howden is they suck and nobody has developed them.
we didn't develop Mika. We finally got a break though.

Buchnevich had his best years away from New York. Yeah it's just timing again.

it's so bad
 
yes, we develop forwards because Lias, Kravtsov and Lemieux are bad. Makes total sense. I see your logic

Blais had 54 games with the NYR. 0 goals. 16 games with Blues, 4 goals. It's a miracle, the knee was healed as soon as he was traded and it spread to his hands. It just bad timing on our part. Unlucky.

"See they can develop forwards " Checks notes for the developed forwards over the past half century... "Well look at all these two 26 year old forwards the Rangers developed... checkmate."

It's like congratulating an 18 year old for finally graduating 6th grade.

Founded in 1926... Who's the greatest forward this org developed? We have to go to the 50's and 60's? bUt rAnGeRs cAnT dEvElOp fOrWaRdS iS bUlLsHiT.... right.

Please show me how good they are at developing forwards. 40 years.... all we have is Chris Kreider... AND HALF THIS BOARD DOESN'T EVEN WANT HIM
You think St. Louis developed Blais in his first game back when he scored? Correlation doesn't equal causation. Blais is Blais. He was scoring in the AHL as well. Needed some time to recover from his knee and then get his confidence back. 40 years? Our organization like mosts have had a lot of different GMs and coaches over 40 years. 1926? Really? What a strange rant.
 
You think St. Louis developed Blais in his first game back when he scored? Correlation doesn't equal causation. Blais is Blais. He was scoring in the AHL as well. Needed some time to recover from his knee and then get his confidence back. 40 years? Our organization like mosts have had a lot of different GMs and coaches over 40 years. 1926? Really? What a strange rant.
Our approach does not develop talent and it also degenerates here for whatever reason. There are exceptions. It's not the rule though
 
we didn't develop Mika. We finally got a break though.

Buchnevich had his best years away from New York. Yeah it's just timing again.

it's so bad
Yea but Buch broke out with us. It's the GM's fault for trading him right after that which accounts for his best years coming in St. Louis not the development .
 
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yes, we develop forwards because Lias, Kravtsov and Lemieux are bad. Makes total sense. I see your logic

Blais had 54 games with the NYR. 0 goals. 16 games with Blues, 4 goals. It's a miracle, the knee was healed as soon as he was traded and it spread to his hands. It just bad timing on our part. Unlucky.

"See they can develop forwards " Checks notes for the developed forwards over the past half century... "Well look at all these two 26 year old forwards the Rangers developed... checkmate."

It's like congratulating an 18 year old for finally graduating 6th grade.

Founded in 1926... Who's the greatest forward this org developed? We have to go to the 50's and 60's? bUt rAnGeRs cAnT dEvElOp fOrWaRdS iS bUlLsHiT.... right.

Please show me how good they are at developing forwards. 40 years.... all we have is Chris Kreider... AND HALF THIS BOARD DOESN'T EVEN WANT HIM

Lias, Kravtsov (so far), and Lemieux have all had the same career they've had with the Rangers with other clubs. Lias was actually better here than LA. Kravtsov is a small sample size, but so far he's worse in Van with more minutes than here, Lemieux will likely never take the next step in his development either.

Blais? Major injury that takes a year+ to come back from and his confidence was shot. The guy needed a change of scenery and the Rangers ended up with Tarasenko, Kane, Mikkola for, arguable, the best top 6 in the NHL and the best 4th line in the NHL. Who gives a shit about Blais?

Greatest forward developed? Amonte? Weight? Savard? Kovalev? Middleton? Sandstrom? Granato? Gagner? Marchant? JT Miller? Kelly Miller?
 
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