Around the NHL – Part XL - Mod post page 249

[SRHRangers]

#2 is prolly MacKinnon, but Makar and even Raatanen are debatable from his own team.

#2 to build around is either Hughes or Bedard if that was allowed.

 

[turcotte8]

It's a clear #1 and #2... after that it's subjective

#3 is clearly Jimmy Vesey.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

#3 is clearly Jimmy Vesey.

It’s Kravtsov.

 

[turcotte8]

It’s Kravtsov.

He's #1

 

[OriginalLimbo]

Can it be the NJ Devils are having trouble with an experienced playoff ready team???

Didnt see the game, so maybe the scorecard was misleading, but weren’t they right there with TBL all game last night?

And while I can buy a lot of their “wins” were the gimmick OT/SO and they lack the experience and maybe grit, their youth, speed and skill are undeniable. They might take some lumps, as all young teams do, but they have arrived and will be a problem for many years. And they still have tons of assets to address their deficiencies. Note, I hate them to the core and would love to be wrong…

 

[McRanger92]

Didnt see the game, so maybe the scorecard was misleading, but weren’t they right there with TBL all game last night?

And while I can buy a lot of their “wins” were the gimmick OT/SO and they lack the experience and maybe grit, their youth, speed and skill are undeniable. They might take some lumps, as all young teams do, but they have arrived and will be a problem for many years. And they still have tons of assets to address their deficiencies. Note, I hate them to the core and would love to be wrong…

All true but I'm poking fun at the posters who have been scared to death of them all year. Did any Ranger fan really think a Cup win wasnt going to go through New Jersey? It's our destiny

 

[OriginalLimbo]

All true but I'm poking fun at the posters who have been scared to death of them all year. Did any Ranger fan really think a Cup win wasnt going to go through New Jersey? It's our destiny

Haha! True.

For the record, I’d love to play them. Us against NJD or NYI in the playoffs are the best. And if they are the better team, so be it. Tip the cap, curse like a sailor and move on.

But if some slug like Ryan Friggen Carter beats us again with 3 goals on 5 goddamn shots, I may just lose it, lol.

 

[cwede]

not far-fetched for the race for 2nd WC in East to be a 6 team scrum

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

It’s Kravtsov.

Hes lighting it up on his new team, 1 assist, -1 with 10 shots in 8 games

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Hes lighting it up on his new team, 1 assist, -1 with 10 shots in 8 games

Prophecy fulfilled!

In all honesty, he's looked worse than he did here. At this rate I wouldn't be surprised if Vancouver chose not to tender him a contract in the summer.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

Prophecy fulfilled!

In all honesty, he's looked worse than he did here. At this rate I wouldn't be surprised if Vancouver chose not to tender him a contract in the summer.

Not surprised. He's doing nothing there like he did nothing here. He will be back in the KHL in no time. Gorton really shit the bed with that pick and the Andersson pick. 2 Top 10 picks that amounted to nothing. At least we got a 2nd for Andersson that turned into Cuylle.

 

[McRanger92]

Not surprised. He's doing nothing there like he did nothing here. He will be back in the KHL in no time. Gorton really shit the bed with that pick and the Andersson pick. 2 Top 10 picks that amounted to nothing. At least we got a 2nd for Andersson that turned into Cuylle.

Maybe we can finally put to bed the idea that the Rangers somehow ruined him. Turns out wasting 2 critical developmental years in the KHL with his buddies was a detriment.

 

[SA16]

Not surprised. He's doing nothing there like he did nothing here. He will be back in the KHL in no time. Gorton really shit the bed with that pick and the Andersson pick. 2 Top 10 picks that amounted to nothing. At least we got a 2nd for Andersson that turned into Cuylle.

Nothing? Did you see that one shift he had where he got the puck on the boards and made a routine pass that turned into a goal?

 

[PuckLuck3043]

Nothing? Did you see that one shift he had where he got the puck on the boards and made a routine pass that turned into a goal?

Edjo said it was the best assist he has ever witnessed.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

Maybe we can finally put to bed the idea that the Rangers somehow ruined him. Turns out wasting 2 critical developmental years in the KHL with his buddies was a detriment.

Yup. He screwed himself and the team.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Maybe we can finally put to bed the idea that the Rangers somehow ruined him. Turns out wasting 2 critical developmental years in the KHL with his buddies was a detriment.

Yeah the whole "the Rangers made a mistake by bringing him over too soon!" argument was never a good one. He just reinforced every bad habit he had by staying over seas rather than trying to work through things in the AHL and figuring out how to try to make his skills work vs NA competition. In retrospect he probably would have failed at doing so but at least he would have went down in flames trying.

I caught a bit of their game last night and he was as abysmal as ever. Turning pucks over left and right, getting tossed around by light nudges, etc. He has zero pace to his game and has no aveunue to success right now. Not skilled or fast enough to get around anyone, not strong enough to go through anyone, not smart enough to make neither of the first 2 matter.

Nik Bobrov is a clown. He actually thought this asshole was the 2nd best forward in that draft class.

 

[McRanger92]

Yeah the whole "the Rangers made a mistake by bringing him over too soon!" argument was never a good one. He just reinforced every bad habit he had by staying over seas rather than trying to work through things in the AHL and figuring out how to try to make his skills work vs NA competition. In retrospect he probably would have failed at doing so but at least he would have went down in flames trying.

I caught a bit of their game last night and he was as abysmal as ever. Turning pucks over left and right, getting tossed around by light nudges, etc. He has zero pace to his game and has no aveunue to success right now. Not skilled or fast enough to get around anyone, not strong enough to go through anyone, not smart enough to make neither of the first 2 matter.

Nik Bobrov is a clown. He actually thought this asshole was the 2nd best forward in that draft class.

Ranger fans (including myself) were ready to believe anything during the rebuild and unfortunately we all thought Bobrov was some genius for dipping into the Euro pool. He set the team back years with the Andersson and Kravy picks. This organizations bread and butter is and always will be USNTDP and NCAA players. If Othmann and Cuylle hit im willing to include the CHL.

 

[Levitate]

Ranger fans (including myself) were ready to believe anything during the rebuild and unfortunately we all thought Bobrov was some genius for dipping into the Euro pool. He set the team back years with the Andersson and Kravy picks. This organizations bread and butter is and always will be USNTDP and NCAA players. If Othmann and Cuylle hit im willing to include the CHL.

there's no reason to think the bread and butter should only be NA players, that's foolish. There's no reason the team can't hire good scouts and have strong over seas scouting.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

there's no reason to think the bread and butter should only be NA players, that's foolish. There's no reason the team can't hire good scouts and have strong over seas scouting.

The best players the team has drafted the last decade have been European players but yes NA guys are their bread and butter to some people lmao

 

[McRanger92]

there's no reason to think the bread and butter should only be NA players, that's foolish. There's no reason the team can't hire good scouts and have strong over seas scouting.

Im not saying it's right or wrong, I'm just saying the facts are that the Rangers best homegrown players have always come from the NCAA or US National team over the past 15 years.

The best players the team has drafted the last decade have been European players but yes NA guys are their bread and butter to some people lmao

Chytil and who else?

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Im not saying it's right or wrong, I'm just saying the facts are that the Rangers best homegrown players have always come from the NCAA or US National team over the past 15 years.



Chytil and who else?

Buchnevich and Shestyorkin dude lol come on

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Im not saying it's right or wrong, I'm just saying the facts are that the Rangers best homegrown players have always come from the NCAA or US National team over the past 15 years.



Chytil and who else?

But to Lev's point, that really means that they need to get better euro scouts. There is no need to neglect a league or nation because one or 2 guys from said league or country didn't pan out. Had they done their due diligence on these guys, they probably don't take them to begin with.

I'd gladly take a player out of Russia this year in the 1st if they're the best guy even after all of Kravtsov's shenanigans, assuming that he isn't entitled and unwilling to listen to instruction like Kravtsov was but I wouldn't want those qualities in any player regardless of where they're from.

I have no idea how good the new euro scouts are but I hope they're way better than what we've had. Bobrov was a moron

 

[McRanger92]

Buchnevich and Shestyorkin dude lol come on

That’s true, they were just pre-rebuild so I didn’t think of them. Even so, we’ve not done well with high picks from the Euro leagues

 

[McRanger92]

But to Lev's point, that really means that they need to get better euro scouts. There is no need to neglect a league or nation because one or 2 guys from said league or country didn't pan out. Had they done their due diligence on these guys, they probably don't take them to begin with.

I'd gladly take a player out of Russia this year in the 1st if they're the best guy even after all of Kravtsov's shenanigans, assuming that he isn't entitled and unwilling to listen to instruction like Kravtsov was but I wouldn't want those qualities in any player regardless of where they're from.

I have no idea how good the new euro scouts are but I hope they're way better than what we've had. Bobrov was a moron

Yeah I don’t think the issue was drafting guys from Europe. The issue was Bobrov making promises to guys with bad attitudes if they didn’t get their way.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Blais with another goal