Around the league part 2

[SettlementRichie10]

But there was also plenty of overrating of lesser players at the expense franchise icons.

Mike Richards being more important to the championship teams than Kopitar is one classic example. Mike Richards was a sub replacement player in 2014 and plenty of people continue to say "The Kings wouldn't have 2 rings without him"

Richards was a fairly replaceable forward by 2014, but he was a critical player in 2012, along with our best forward period in the unsuccessful 2013 run. Kopitar was completely MIA in 2013.

Clearly Kopitar was “more important” in 2012 and 2014. I’ve literally never heard anyone claim otherwise. But Richards absolutely set a tone in the Vancouver series, and provided critical secondary center production, PKing, etc. throughout the entire run.

So the Kings likely win 2014 without Richards, but they definitely don’t win 2012.

 

[Herby]

Richards was a fairly replaceable forward by 2014, but he was a critical player in 2012, along with our best forward period in the unsuccessful 2013 run. Kopitar was completely MIA in 2013.

Clearly Kopitar was “more important” in 2012 and 2014. I’ve literally never heard anyone claim otherwise. But Richards absolutely set a tone in the Vancouver series, and provided critical secondary center production, PKing, etc. throughout the entire run.

So the Kings likely win 2014 without Richards, but they definitely don’t win 2012.

Fair enough, but I’ve certainly seen many posts here and on other places that said Richards was more important than AK.

And with as dominant as the Kings were in 2012 I am not sure one player (other than Quick) would have caused the team not to win. Maybe DD since they really didn’t have another 1D. But not any forward, maybe not even AK. Quick was at a Hasek like level.

 

[Bandit]

MacEwen is a clear cut upgrade.

Its obvious, the only reason folks don't see it is that they don't want to see it. Everyday there is complete nonsense thrown around about Iafallo, Lizotte, Moore Edler and now MacEwen. There is always a part of every fan base that willfully ignores the non-sexy contributions of role players - until they win, when somehow suddenly their play is noticable to them. Stoll couldn't shoot straight, Lewis was useless, Scuderi was a waste of money - all things the rabble around here vomited out on a daily basis. Its a bad look.

The bad look is continuing to act superior over an opinion about a scrub. The kings didn’t need Lemiuex OR MacEwan.

JAD should be playing. Kaliyev should be playing. Put Moore and Iafallo in the bottom six where they belong. If the coach needs a fringe jackass from a lottery team more than the guys that are allegedly actually a part of this team’s future then either the coach needs to go or the players do.

There’s no universe where not playing Kaliyev and JAD at all is better than playing them in the wrong roles. The pathetic thing is neither needs to happen except that the coach is a dumbass.

 

[Fishhead]

Richards was a fairly replaceable forward by 2014, but he was a critical player in 2012, along with our best forward period in the unsuccessful 2013 run. Kopitar was completely MIA in 2013.

Clearly Kopitar was “more important” in 2012 and 2014. I’ve literally never heard anyone claim otherwise. But Richards absolutely set a tone in the Vancouver series, and provided critical secondary center production, PKing, etc. throughout the entire run.

So the Kings likely win 2014 without Richards, but they definitely don’t win 2012.

Even though he was below par, he made some huge plays though. Last minute pass to Gaborik to tie that game in Anaheim, not sure they win that series without that. It wasn't pretty, but he gathered his shot that was blocked, evaded a check, and got it over to him with seconds left. And didn't he make the play and pass to JW for the OT winner in game 1 of the finals? He was also still taking tough matchups in 2014 and solid on faceoffs. It's part of the reason Kopitar/Carter's lines were freed up to roam.

The points weren't there and he sure did look slow, but he brought it when he needed to.

 

[BigKing]

Even though he was below par, he made some huge plays though. Last minute pass to Gaborik to tie that game in Anaheim, not sure they win that series without that. It wasn't pretty, but he gathered his shot that was blocked, evaded a check, and got it over to him with seconds left. And didn't he make the play and pass to JW for the OT winner in game 1 of the finals? He was also still taking tough matchups in 2014 and solid on faceoffs. It's part of the reason Kopitar/Carter's lines were freed up to roam.

The points weren't there and he sure did look slow, but he brought it when he needed to.

He also let Couture punch him hard enough to hurt his hand at the end of Game 6 in 2014. Couture went on to post a -3 in Game 7 to go along with a spicy 31% FO win percentage.

 

[Shellz]

lmfao what a bounce by Dallas

 

[Fishhead]

lmfao what a bounce by Dallas

Unsurprising, Miro has been on a tear. 17 points in his last 10 games

But unlike Clarke, he is only a +2.

 

[King'sPawn]

Unsurprising, Miro has been on a tear. 17 points in his last 10 games

But unlike Clarke, he is only a +2.

He must suck defensively.

 

[Herby]

Unsurprising, Miro has been on a tear. 17 points in his last 10 games

But unlike Clarke, he is only a +2.

Send him to the Texas Stars, it’s clear he hasn’t paid his dues and mastered the system.

 

[Fishhead]

Send him to the Texas Stars, it’s clear he hasn’t paid his dues and mastered the system.

Absolutely.

I've always thought of him as a Clarke comparable, I think he's more indicative of his upside than Klingberg is.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Pacific just doesn't lose games anymore unless it's playing itself to an OTL

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

f*** off, Demko.

 

[Shellz]

I hate Dallas

 

[Shellz]

Quick couldn’t stop JT Millers PS

 

[Fishhead]

f*** off, Demko.

Where the f*** did superhuman go?

 

[AbsentMojo]

f*** off, Demko.

Cruising for repeat 1st rounder w Jeezus Kane and Draible .. maybe the only question is who gets home court

 

[Shellz]

Quick is now second among most wins by US born goalies. Just 17(i think) more wins to get ahead of Miller.

 

[KINGS17]

Richards was a fairly replaceable forward by 2014, but he was a critical player in 2012, along with our best forward period in the unsuccessful 2013 run. Kopitar was completely MIA in 2013.

Clearly Kopitar was “more important” in 2012 and 2014. I’ve literally never heard anyone claim otherwise. But Richards absolutely set a tone in the Vancouver series, and provided critical secondary center production, PKing, etc. throughout the entire run.

So the Kings likely win 2014 without Richards, but they definitely don’t win 2012.

I think Richards set the tone throughout the playoffs in 2012, and played well in 2013. Richards got the ball rolling in Game 1 of the Vancouver series and I think Brown followed his lead to some extent.

Once Brown, Richards, Stoll, Lewis and King picked up the hitting in their games in the 2012 playoffs the Kings just steamrolled everyone. People might say King didn't pick it up, but he wasn't an open ice hitter. He just turned defensemen into a sticky paste along the boards.

Quick is now second among most wins by US born goalies. Just 17(i think) more wins to get ahead of Miller.

Quick is on a mission right now.

 

[kingsfan28]

Quick is now second among most wins by US born goalies. Just 17(i think) more wins to get ahead of Miller.

Yeah, I saw the VGK twitter post. It just looks wrong. By seasons end he'll only need probably 12. I really thought he'd do it as a King. The injury season of 12-13' and later 16-17' wiped that out.

 

[Fishhead]

Glad he's moving towards that record, but he still looks shaky. Very few pucks get swallowed up, still a lot of rebounds and excess movement. Vegas has a fantastic defense core, they collapse and clear things out. He looked just like he did when he was here on that 3rd goal.

Vegas plays a lot like the Kings did on defense, so it does match Quick's style. You still don't want him anywhere near the ice in a wide open game, but in a controlled one he can still hold his own.

 

[Nasti]

I think Richards set the tone throughout the playoffs in 2012, and played well in 2013. Richards got the ball rolling in Game 1 of the Vancouver series and I think Brown followed his lead to some extent.

Once Brown, Richards, Stoll, Lewis and King picked up the hitting in their games in the 2012 playoffs the Kings just steamrolled everyone. People might say King didn't pick it up, but he wasn't an open ice hitter. He just turned defensemen into a sticky paste along the boards.

Don’t forget Penner. No one could stop him along the boards.

 

[21Dog]

I think Richards set the tone throughout the playoffs in 2012, and played well in 2013. Richards got the ball rolling in Game 1 of the Vancouver series and I think Brown followed his lead to some extent.

Once Brown, Richards, Stoll, Lewis and King picked up the hitting in their games in the 2012 playoffs the Kings just steamrolled everyone. People might say King didn't pick it up, but he wasn't an open ice hitter. He just turned defensemen into a sticky paste along the boards.


Quick is on a mission right now.

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A mission from God.

 

[The Butcher]

Edmonton a -480 money line over the Coyotes tonight seems a little extreme.

 

[King'sPawn]

I vehemently disagree with this decision. These people are being punished by the IIHF for the decisions/behavior of a leader.

I would hate for the USA to be kept out of international play because of any future decisions with any president.

 

[King'sPawn]

Duplicate, please delete