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johnjm22

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I mean, he had always been capable of a little more production but the Kings were never going to utilize him like that again. Our third line has Kevin Fiala on it. Lemieux had nowhere to go on the team and the Kings needed an enforcer, not a scorer out of him. We didn't trade for MacEwen for his production he was clearly the worse player metric-wise by far. We traded for him because he can punch some of the biggest and strongest guys in the league in the face.
Blake threw a 5th round pick into the trash can.
 

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Blake threw a 5th round pick into the trash can.
True enough, but at the same time it was only a 5th rounder and the Kings were looking to spend to get everything they needed for the home stretch and postseason run. For better or worse, Blake & Co. are going for it.

If the only thing we are complaining about in the offseason is Blake wasting a 5th rounder on an enforcer then we had a very good finish to the year or retained Gavrikov on a nice deal.

I think the 5th falls by the wayside as all eyes are on the likely 1st + 3rd Blake set on fire while Spartan-kicking Quick out of the organization for this run.
 
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johnjm22

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True enough, but at the same time it was only a 5th rounder and the Kings were looking to spend to get everything they needed for the home stretch and postseason run. For better or worse, Blake & Co. are going for it.

If the only thing we are complaining about in the offseason is Blake wasting a 5th rounder on an enforcer then we had a very good finish to the year or retained Gavrikov on a nice deal.

I think the 5th falls by the wayside as all eyes are on the likely 1st + 3rd Blake set on fire while Spartan-kicking Quick out of the organization for this run.
He threw away a 5th round pick to make the team worse. That gets on my nerves.

I'm already complaining about the Gavrikov trade, the terrible cap situation, and the Moore contract. :)

I've been a Blake supporter, but the recent moves have soured me.
 

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I think that is just fighting in the league in general. Lemieux wasn't a good fighter and had an injury history. MacEwen is a significant upgrade in the fighting department and is much more healthy. MacEwen wasn't obtained because he is a better hockey player. Lemieux is the better hockey player by a mile. He was literally only acquired to punch people in the face.

The Kings have offense out the wazoo but that means nothing if the likes of Kevin Fiala gets steamrolled. The team is extremely small and soft. I bet if they had to play the Capitals in a 7 game series they would probably win but lose half the team to injury as they were getting ragdolled like children. MacEwen's only purpose in life is to go out there and do this again to the Oilers:



 
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I'm thinking there is more to the Lemieux trade than is out there, there wasn't really a need to move him. They certainly couldn't have thought McEwen was a clear upgrade. Just a weird one all around.

Didn't it come at the heels of a "Brendan Lemiux is home for personal reasons, not playing for personal reasons etc" Having said that, you have to wonder if there was something in the lockeroom that....wasn't kosher etc.
 

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True enough, but at the same time it was only a 5th rounder and the Kings were looking to spend to get everything they needed for the home stretch and postseason run. For better or worse, Blake & Co. are going for it.

If the only thing we are complaining about in the offseason is Blake wasting a 5th rounder on an enforcer then we had a very good finish to the year or retained Gavrikov on a nice deal.

I think the 5th falls by the wayside as all eyes are on the likely 1st + 3rd Blake set on fire while Spartan-kicking Quick out of the organization for this run.

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pretty accurate

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I'm thinking there is more to the Lemieux trade than is out there, there wasn't really a need to move him. They certainly couldn't have thought McEwen was a clear upgrade. Just a weird one all around.

Absolutely agree, has the feel of Blake doing a guy a solid or something behind the s
 

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I'm thinking there is more to the Lemieux trade than is out there, there wasn't really a need to move him. They certainly couldn't have thought McEwen was a clear upgrade. Just a weird one all around.

He;s an upgrade when it comes to rep penalties. Lemieux was a flat out liability whenever a scrum would start and got called too many times. How could Blake trust him in the playoffs when that stuff happen way more? He could cost you a playoff game just by calling McDavid an a-hole .
 
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I'm thinking there is more to the Lemieux trade than is out there, there wasn't really a need to move him. They certainly couldn't have thought McEwen was a clear upgrade. Just a weird one all around.
MacEwen is a clear cut upgrade.

Its obvious, the only reason folks don't see it is that they don't want to see it. Everyday there is complete nonsense thrown around about Iafallo, Lizotte, Moore Edler and now MacEwen. There is always a part of every fan base that willfully ignores the non-sexy contributions of role players - until they win, when somehow suddenly their play is noticable to them. Stoll couldn't shoot straight, Lewis was useless, Scuderi was a waste of money - all things the rabble around here vomited out on a daily basis. Its a bad look.
 
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Herby

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MacEwen is a clear cut upgrade.

Its obvious, the only reason folks don't see it is that they don't want to see it. Everyday there is complete nonsense thrown around about Iafallo, Lizotte, Moore Edler and now MacEwen. There is always a part of every fan base that willfully ignores the non-sexy contributions of role players - until they win, when somehow suddenly their play is noticable to them. Stoll couldn't shoot straight, Lewis was useless, Scuderi was a waste of money - all things the rabble around here vomited out on a daily basis. Its a bad look.

But there was also plenty of overrating of lesser players at the expense franchise icons.

Mike Richards being more important to the championship teams than Kopitar is one classic example. Mike Richards was a sub replacement player in 2014 and plenty of people continue to say "The Kings wouldn't have 2 rings without him"
 

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MacEwen is a clear cut upgrade.

Its obvious, the only reason folks don't see it is that they don't want to see it. Everyday there is complete nonsense thrown around about Iafallo, Lizotte, Moore Edler and now MacEwen. There is always a part of every fan base that willfully ignores the non-sexy contributions of role players - until they win, when somehow suddenly their play is noticable to them. Stoll couldn't shoot straight, Lewis was useless, Scuderi was a waste of money - all things the rabble around here vomited out on a daily basis. Its a bad look.

I honestly think he's only substantially better than Lemieux at one thing. I don't think he's terrible, just not an upgrade. Certainly not worth throwing in an extra pick over.

Lemieux is certainly better offensively, defensively, doesn't handle the puck like a grenade, and better hockey instinct. MacEwen is faster and a much better puncher.
 

Herby

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How did Sillinger's star probability drop after his D+1 by 16 points by JK's rose by 9? That makes no sense to me.

I wasn't sure if it was smart to bring a good but not elite prospect to the NHL when he spent the season before in the USHL, but he looked pretty good last season for an 18 year old. Obviously this season has been a disaster, but he's also a 19 year old kid on a horrific team with a pretty good NHL season under his belt already.

JK was just not as highly skilled a player as people thought, he's a decent middle six guy, but he hasn't shown any ability to score goals at any level since being drafted. He's slightly better and healthier Turcotte, sometimes evaluations are wrong.
 

Raccoon Jesus

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Bellamare said what I was going to say. I remember when Synergies first came out I would get clowned for using an 85, as most guys would use a 100 and some a 110.

Now it seems most players like the whippy flex.

Same, but I was also broke back then, and they certainly felt more brittle. I could snap a synergy 85 flex in just a few weeks. Current models feel nearly indestructible in comparison and I'm heavier and stronger.

But the way the game has changed you're rarely loading up a slapper anymore, those quick shots with leverage are important even for dmen so I see a lot of guys using those.
 
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