Around the league part 2

[KingsFan7824]

You dont trade a generational quality talent in quick. But moves like this are becoming an expectation to me from a hierarchy composed of a high school dropout and a many times concussed multimillionare.
Just watch Quick run the table in the playoffs.

At 37, UFA, playing the worst goal he's ever played in a Kings jersey. Generational quality talent. Stop it. Not only was he traded as a roster spot by the Kings, but Vegas traded a nothing roster spot, as well as a 7th rd pick 2 full years from now for him. That's at least 2 teams, if not 3 counting Clb, that said, you know, you're just not worth much. That's buying excessively low. You couldn't be worth less to multiple teams.

If he goes on to do anything with Vegas, that's a complete shot in the dark. And if the Kings kept his sorry stats this year, that's the Kings giving the season away because they're too scared to hurt any feelings. It's all bullshit.

 

[Fishhead]

Your filter says 2021-2022 not 2022-2023 is that what you wanted? Kuemper shows with AVS

It's because it's from moneypuck, it's a different site.

I don't really trust their stats there. They still have Calgary as better odds to make the playoffs than Nashville, and the flames are 7th in their power rankings. They tend to be different from the typical sites, like NST or hockey-reference.

They come up first in a lot of searches, too. That site has great SEO.

 

[chris kontos]

At 37, UFA, playing the worst goal he's ever played in a Kings jersey. Generational quality talent. Stop it. Not only was he traded as a roster spot by the Kings, but Vegas traded a nothing roster spot, as well as a 7th rd pick 2 full years from now for him. That's at least 2 teams, if not 3 counting Clb, that said, you know, you're just not worth much. That's buying excessively low. You couldn't be worth less to multiple teams.

If he goes on to do anything with Vegas, that's a complete shot in the dark. And if the Kings kept his sorry stats this year, that's the Kings giving the season away because they're too scared to hurt any feelings. It's all bullshit.

Just watch when he runs the table in the playoffs, sport.
The best when the moneys on the line goaltender EVER.

 

[KingsFan7824]

Just watch when he runs the table in the playoffs, sport.
The best when the moneys on the line goaltender EVER.

Are you trying to scare me? I've already watched Blake come back and own the Kings in 2001 and 2002. I've seen them actually win the damn Cup. For me at this point, whatever happens, happens. I know Quick sucked this year for the Kings, so whatever tattoo he has didn't mean shit to him. Why was he letting Copley of all people be better then him? If he's now motivated, great for him. There's a reason Vegas got him for a 7th in 2025. If he turns it around and has the greatest story in the history of hockey in the 2023 playoffs, he still sucked ass for the Kings in 22-23, and was getting worse as the season progressed.

 

[chris kontos]

Dont be scared. Everythings gonna be ok, big boy.

 

[KINGS17]

Just watch when he runs the table in the playoffs, sport.
The best when the moneys on the line goaltender EVER.

I would have liked to have seen get this opportunity three years ago.

 

[chris kontos]

I would have liked to have seen get this opportunity three years ago.

All this stuff are just opinion statements by me. Whatever happens, if quick turns into a sieve or if he wins another conn smythe, i’ll stand by my opinion about quick. He’s the best since hasek.

 

[robitaillefan]

Stutzle gonna hit 40 goals this year…

 

[Fishhead]

All this stuff are just opinion statements by me. Whatever happens, if quick turns into a sieve or if he wins another conn smythe, i’ll stand by my opinion about quick. He’s the best since hasek.

As I said before, I love Quick, but I don't think I'd put him quite on that level. He's certainly not as good as Vasilevskiy. Personally, I don't think he's as good as Saros either, but one could make an argument. I put Quick more on the Bobrovsky tier, and no shame in that, those are damn good goalies.

 

[YP44]

Stutzle gonna hit 40 goals this year…

and will be golfing during round 1

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

Stutzle gonna hit 40 goals this year…

Yeah, the NYR org is pissed!

 

[TruKingFan]

Or he chose not to do it. My God most of us were saying stop overreacting to shots. Stay in the blue. We saw how he got out of position a lot. I could be wrong but if us laymen could see this Ranford did too. Sometimes it takes a slap in the face to get people to listen.

Maybe Quickie got the message after he got moved.

Quick must have wanted out of LA perhaps because he knew he wouldn't be signed next year. He may have even forced that trade who knows. Moving on.

Don't want to face Quick in the playoffs. Don't want to face McDavid in the playoffs. Don't want to face Seattle in the playoffs. Might as well not even get into the playoffs, everyone is so scared.

Just rebuild, baby.

 

[SettlementRichie10]

At 37, UFA, playing the worst goal he's ever played in a Kings jersey. Generational quality talent. Stop it. Not only was he traded as a roster spot by the Kings, but Vegas traded a nothing roster spot, as well as a 7th rd pick 2 full years from now for him. That's at least 2 teams, if not 3 counting Clb, that said, you know, you're just not worth much. That's buying excessively low. You couldn't be worth less to multiple teams.

If he goes on to do anything with Vegas, that's a complete shot in the dark. And if the Kings kept his sorry stats this year, that's the Kings giving the season away because they're too scared to hurt any feelings. It's all bullshit.

It’s not a total shot in the dark. We’ve seen Quick play like hammered shit for months only to turn around and look literally unbeatable. If anyone on those Cup teams ever had a real switch, it was a Quick.

I understand you can’t bet on a 37 year old flipping the switch again, and a deal materialized that made the team better in the short and potentially long term. But it’s still tempting fate to kick him to the curb, not because he could’ve played better for you, but because you’re giving him motivation to play better for someone else. I’d rather keep my broken high powered rifle in the closet than give it to someone else and hope they don’t fix it and use it against me.

Again, I don’t want to rag on Blake because I do that a lot and it muddies the message. Blake probably made the right trade in the long run, especially if Gavrikov re-signs. But it’s not 100% cut and dry.

 

[Herby]

and will be golfing during round 1

So what? How is that his fault he’s on a rebuilding team? Did we say the same thing about Kopitar when he was young and the Kings were rebuilding?

I read somewhere he is having something like the 6th best U-21 season since the lockout, with the others being I believe Crosby, Ovechkin, Malkin, McDavid and Staal. Good group to be in.

 

[unicornpig]

So what? How is that his fault he’s on a rebuilding team? Did we say the same thing about Kopitar when he was young and the Kings were rebuilding?

I read somewhere he is having something like the 6th best U-21 season since the lockout, with the others being I believe Crosby, Ovechkin, Malkin, McDavid and Staal. Good group to be in.

How long are they gonna rebuild lol, last year they were expected to compete for the playoffs, this year the expectations were to make noise in the east. But yet again they are heading to the lottery.

 

[KingsFan7824]

Dont be scared. Everythings gonna be ok, big boy.

Thank you daddy.

I would have liked to have seen get this opportunity three years ago.

Blame it on that 10 year deal. Anything can happen(although that's a bad way to think with a team in regards to the playoffs), but aging goalies with term don't tend to be traded. The only reason he's not here today is because, while having the worst season of his career up until his release from prison, he only has a couple weeks left on the contract. Term doesn't matter, of course, but you should also never give term to players in their late 20's. It's Schrodinger's contract. If Quick had been better this year, he's still here, because they had no desire to trade a franchise icon.

It’s not a total shot in the dark. We’ve seen Quick play like hammered shit for months only to turn around and look literally unbeatable. If anyone on those Cup teams ever had a real switch, it was a Quick.

I understand you can’t bet on a 37 year old flipping the switch again, and a deal materialized that made the team better in the short and potentially long term. But it’s still tempting fate to kick him to the curb, not because he could’ve played better for you, but because you’re giving him motivation to play better for someone else. I’d rather keep my broken high powered rifle in the closet than give it to someone else and hope they don’t fix it and use it against me.

Again, I don’t want to rag on Blake because I do that a lot and it muddies the message. Blake probably made the right trade in the long run, especially if Gavrikov re-signs. But it’s not 100% cut and dry.

But then you never make a move. How can you make any trade? How can you not re-sign every guy? How do you even make a pick in the draft? Anyone you get rid of, let go, or don't pick, will always have motivation against you.

You can't do things while you worry about tempting fate.

 

[YP44]

So what? How is that his fault he’s on a rebuilding team? Did we say the same thing about Kopitar when he was young and the Kings were rebuilding?

I read somewhere he is having something like the 6th best U-21 season since the lockout, with the others being I believe Crosby, Ovechkin, Malkin, McDavid and Staal. Good group to be in.

Fair, and don't get me wrong I am a big fan of Stuzle. Just gets old hearing about him all the time.

 

[SettlementRichie10]

Thank you daddy.



Blame it on that 10 year deal. Anything can happen(although that's a bad way to think with a team in regards to the playoffs), but aging goalies with term don't tend to be traded. The only reason he's not here today is because, while having the worst season of his career up until his release from prison, he only has a couple weeks left on the contract. Term doesn't matter, of course, but you should also never give term to players in their late 20's. It's Schrodinger's contract. If Quick had been better this year, he's still here, because they had no desire to trade a franchise icon.



But then you never make a move. How can you make any trade? How can you not re-sign every guy? How do you even make a pick in the draft? Anyone you get rid of, let go, or don't pick, will always have motivation against you.

You can't do things while you worry about tempting fate.

Clearly Quick is on a different level than most players, though. Surely you can acknowledge that?

Again, I’m not saying you don’t make the trade. I’m just pointing out it’s not so cut and dry.

 

[AbsentMojo]

Bedard's cousin is being picked up by radar:

 

[tny760]

...you can play in the WHL at 14?

that just seems dangerous honestly, a 14 year old getting lined up by a grown ass 20 year old

 

[AbsentMojo]

...you can play in the WHL at 14?

that just seems dangerous honestly, a 14 year old getting lined up by a grown ass 20 year old

Ya it does. He is 15 now but still. TGO played a few games at 15, then a full season at 16 in the O

 

[Nasti]

Contrary to what a lot of people think, I don’t think GMs concern themselves with what other teams are doing or whether or not a trade they’re making helps the other team. They worry about their own team, as well they should. If you are improving your team, it shouldn’t matter what anybody else is doing.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Contrary to what a lot of people think, I don’t think GMs concern themselves with what other teams are doing or whether or not a trade they’re making helps the other team. They worry about their own team, as well they should. If you are improving your team, it shouldn’t matter what anybody else is doing.

Generally speaking sure, but i'ts more nuanced than that imo.

After all, there's a reason DL tried to ship Martin Jones to Boston and was pissed they flipped him to SJ.

 

[AbsentMojo]

Generally speaking sure, but i'ts more nuanced than that imo.

After all, there's a reason DL tried to ship Martin Jones to Boston and was pissed they flipped him to SJ.

Re the JQ trade, I would not be surprised if Columbus had already talked to Vegas (before consumating the trade) about flipping JQ to them... I wonder if Blake factored that before moving him there.. I think quite a few people on here thought that was possible.

 

[Fishhead]

Re the JQ trade, I would not be surprised if Columbus had already talked to Vegas (before consumating the trade) about flipping JQ to them... I wonder if Blake factored that before moving him there.. I think quite a few people on here thought that was possible.

Blake probably would have moved him directly to Vegas, if they had what we needed. Much closer to home for JQ.