Around the league part 2

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chris kontos

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for a long time barry melrose was the only redeeming quality of bspn. his hilarious sense of humor and easygoing on air personality were a gift to listen to.
there must be a current redeeming quality of espn but i guess i just cant think of one. fair winds and following seas barry.
 

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it was an odd list to put out given how many teams did paper transactions for cap reasons
Possibly, I mean I get Herby's point, but it's ignorant of the fact that just because you make the team, doesn't mean you play, and just because you play, doesn't mean you have an impact,

You have your clear cut impact players Bedard, Fantilli, Carlsson god rest his knee......but just because a player makes the team, like Easton did, doesn't mean he plays, which he won't.....because he already got cut....which was my point in saying, let's wait til mid-season before we say anything and that is where @tigermask48 got his panties in a bunch.
 

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Reeves v jackeye #1 just now
Reeves got the worst of it getting thrown into the net on his ass. More to come from these two forsure
 
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Every shift something interesting happens w him - reminds me of another Chicago player.. M. Jordan.
Watched his first game yesterday and you can tell he's just going to be good. Once he gets man strength, he's just going to be phenomenal. I don't ever think he'll ever reach McDavid level, but he'll be top 5 player every year.
 

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Watched his first game yesterday and you can tell he's just going to be good. Once he gets man strength, he's just going to be phenomenal. I don't ever think he'll ever reach McDavid level, but he'll be top 5 player every year.
I remember when (I think) Grant McCagg said something absurd early last year about thinking another player could pass Bedard on the draft board "if they have a similar season."

Same scout/person kept calling Bedard a winger, because he's too small to be a center.
 

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I remember when (I think) Grant McCagg said something absurd early last year about thinking another player could pass Bedard on the draft board "if they have a similar season."

Same scout/person kept calling Bedard a winger, because he's too small to be a center.
Yeah dude must be on something lol. NO one is passing up Bedard. Just wish he didn't go to Chicago but whatever. I can see the winger change dude is just tiny in relation to what a center should be. They showed a clip during a break in the game where he interviewed Crosby with their gear on and dude looked tiny sitting next to Crosby at 5'10". Not that his size matters I believe he will be fine. Hawks put him right between Hall and Donato and had a great debut.
 

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The cap crunch strike others as well. How can MTL and OTT be above the cap? OTT can't even afford Pinto at 1mil rfa contract.


Again, not the company you want to be associated with. A bunch of non-playoff teams who blew their wad on players before performance with holes galore and a team who has failed to provide the best players in the world any depth.

The Ottawa one is funny though becuase they were this season's 'offseason winner' despite Pinto getting f***ed over in the process.
 

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And another team doing it wrong, apparently. Boy that two years in college, immediately jumping right into the NHL as an impact player without any AHL time sure seems to be working a lot better than the "slow cook" method, but what do I know.

How many of these contracts are we up to now for players straight out of ELC's? This should be the expectation for every team in the league that has a high pick in the draft.
 
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Again, not the company you want to be associated with. A bunch of non-playoff teams who blew their wad on players before performance with holes galore and a team who has failed to provide the best players in the world any depth.

The Ottawa one is funny though becuase they were this season's 'offseason winner' despite Pinto getting f***ed over in the process.
Not to mention Ottawa, despite having their Stutzlestar, lost to a team that historically drafts and develops well, even if they don't have the same budget or big names.

Also pointing out randomly that the Canes 2020 pick, Seth Jarvis (13th overall) led ALL FORWARDS of both teams with 21:49.

Think Byfield gets more than 17:00 tonight, despite a shortened roster? Think he'll be in the top 10 forwards in ice time between both teams?
 

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And another team doing it wrong, apparently. Boy that two years in college, immediately jumping right into the NHL as an impact player without any AHL time sure seems to be working a lot better than the "slow cook" method, but what do I know.

How many of these contracts are we up to now for players straight out of ELC's? This should be the expectation for every team in the league that has a high pick in the draft.


Our management hazes, they don't develop.
 
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Our management hazes, they don't develop.

I am still amazed that the Kings felt the AHL was a better development spot than a 2nd year back in college (AT) or learning to be a pro at the NHL level (QB), just defies all logic, even almost 4 years later its maybe the worst decision I've ever seen with the handling of an NCAA prospect. Just completely ignoring the evidence that is all around them, around the entire league, because they are to egotistical and stubborn to think their way might be wrong. I get it why many here were excited, it was a chance to see Turcotte locally and in theory it was "a step closer to the NHL", but man the history of guys going from freshman to the AHL is just so bad, and this has sadly become another cautionary tale for teams that still think this is optimal (not many do). You think Power, Beniers, Hughes, Caufield, Boldy are where they are playing in the AHL instead of a 2nd year in college? zero chance.

What is really crappy is their poor evaluation and development choices have no consequences for Blake and the Beach Boys (they all get extensions and promotions), but for guys like Byfield, Bjornfot and Turcotte (and maybe Clarke is next) it ends up costing them any chance of getting anything remotely similar to what their friends and peers got on 2nd contracts. Maybe its just better for everyone involved that the Kings decided to largely gut much of their future the last couple of years by trading Faber, and 1sts in 2022 and 2023. The Kings just have shown they don't have much of a clue how to develop guys into star players. If you were a 1st round pick would you want to go to the Kings? Or an organization that may give you a chance to actually show what you can do and be compensated well for it. Look at Faber, he will sign a big contract (not this big) next summer, and will have 2 full seasons and 3 (possible) playoff appearances going into that contract. LA would have made him pay his dues and he'd be making 1/5 of what he probably will be making two seasons from now. By the end of this season its very likely Faber will be as good or better than Roy, with a cap hit of 925k this season and next. This is how most teams do it, they try and replace expendable vets with younger players on ELC's and use the saved money to address problems elsewhere (like goaltending in LA), but the Kings would never have even given him the chance to show he's better because he was coming from the Minnesota Golden Gophers instead of the Ontario Reign. The same can be said of Clarke as well (even if he's a much different style player).
 
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