Around the League 2022-23 season thread - part II

[Mr Bojanglez]

The guy has 44 points in 42 games. Even if he's playing with McDavid and Draisaitl, that's pretty good.

Huala level production

 

[Bleedred]

The guy has 44 points in 42 games. Even if he's playing with McDavid and Draisaitl, that's pretty good.

That was mostly to mock one MIA poster that had such a fascination with these two players. I'm pretty sure he even cited Hyman last year as being a reason the Oilers had gotten better and the Leafs were struggling and that the Leafs just can't win a playoff round with him gone. And he was way over pumping up the tires of Goodrow.

To be fair, one player appears to be significantly better than the other and that player is Hyman.

I will never understand why Goodrow is traded for 1st round picks or signed for 7 year deals. I watched him come up with the Sharks and he was basically a 4th liner/borderline 3rd liner outside of his last year there. If Tampa hadn't won those two cups with him after trading their 1st for him, that trade would constantly be mocked and looked at as being very bad. He also scored that big series winning goal in game 7 against Vegas in 2019 when the Sharks came back from 3-0 down late in that game and scored a bunch of goals on the double minor power play. And it was a game where he played 7 minutes, while the game I think lasted almost 80 minutes. One of his 5 career playoff goals in 74 games.

For all the ''Playoff performer'' talk, the guy has a measly FIVE playoff goals and 15 points in 74 career playoff games.

 

[PWiz30]

So the Bratt Pack tweeted remember Keith Kinkaid today, but do you guys remember Ken Appleby? Shades of Marty in game 3 of the 2003 finals.

 

[Bleedred]

So the Bratt Pack tweeted remember Keith Kinkaid today, but do you guys remember Ken Appleby? Shades of Marty in game 3 of the 2003 finals.

Funny that their goalie tandem for the Bridgeport Islanders right now is Schneider/Appleby, which was actually the dressed goalie tandem for us for a couple of games when Kinkaid was injured, right around this very time 5 years ago in January of 2018.

Jonathan Quick also allowed a goal like that against the Rangers close to 10 years ago. I can't remember who scored it, I gotta find it. I think it was the same year the Kings and Rangers played in the finals, but it was in a regular season game earlier that year.

I just found it, still not sure who even scored it.

 

[PWiz30]

Funny that their goalie tandem for the Bridgeport Islanders right now is Schneider/Appleby, which was actually the dressed goalie tandem for us for a couple of games when Kinkaid was injured, right around this very time 5 years ago in January of 2018.

Jonathan Quick also allowed a goal like that against the Rangers close to 10 years ago. I can't remember who scored it, I gotta find it. I think it was the same year the Kings and Rangers played in the finals, but it was in a regular season game earlier that year.

I just found it, still not sure who even scored it.

It's such a flukey thing that it goes straight into the "shit happens" category, never to be spoken of again. Like Marty said in 03, all you can do is laugh it off.

 

[Hisch13r]

It’s astounding that 4 pretty franchise altering bad deals all occurred within hours of each other. How would you rank them from worst to best? Including extensions I think I go Jones, Buch, OEL, Risto. The OEL one is probably more damning long term than Buch but the Rangers with Buch last year and going forward would be so much more threatening. The best part is literally none of the 4 moves needed hindsight. All were god awful from the moment they were made.

 

[hidek91]

It’s astounding that 4 pretty franchise altering bad deals all occurred within hours of each other. How would you rank them from worst to best? Including extensions I think I go Jones, Buch, OEL, Risto. The OEL one is probably more damning long term than Buch but the Rangers with Buch last year and going forward would be so much more threatening. The best part is literally none of the 4 moves needed hindsight. All were god awful from the moment they were made.

OEL, Buchnevich and Risto were awful without hindsight but does Jones fall into this category? Weren't they getting a franchise d-man at that point? Of course they were no longer a team that should have done a 'win now' move but didn't Jones decline heavily after that deal?

 

[Hisch13r]

OEL, Buchnevich and Risto were awful without hindsight but does Jones fall into this category? Weren't they getting a franchise d-man at that point? Of course they were no longer a team that should have done a 'win now' move but didn't Jones decline heavily after that deal?

Nah Jones had been posting mediocre metrics for a few years at that point and lot of people had pointed out red flags with him. A lot of people thought the numbers were probably underrating him a bit but even then he wasn’t worth the return or the contract.

 

[Bleedred]

It’s astounding that 4 pretty franchise altering bad deals all occurred within hours of each other. How would you rank them from worst to best? Including extensions I think I go Jones, Buch, OEL, Risto. The OEL one is probably more damning long term than Buch but the Rangers with Buch last year and going forward would be so much more threatening. The best part is literally none of the 4 moves needed hindsight. All were god awful from the moment they were made.

Isn't Ristolainen like legit the worst player in the NHL? I remember this being heavily talked about maybe just a couple months ago.

I thought Buchnevich was still good?

The others sucks. OEL is almost like Yandle 2,0, that guy that fans of teams all over the league wanted like 5 years ago and now he's not good and on a terrible contract. And both him and Yandle started out in Arizona.

 

[Hisch13r]

Isn't Ristolainen like legit the worst player in the NHL? I remember this being heavily talked about maybe just a couple months ago.

I thought Buchnevich was still good?

The others sucks. OEL is almost like Yandle 2,0, that guy that fans of teams all over the league wanted like 5 years ago and now he's not good and on a terrible contract. And both him and Yandle started out in Arizona.

Yeah Risto’s one of the worst players in the league and literally always has been. Buch is great. It’s an awful deal for the Rangers giving him up for a 2nd and Blais.

 

[Bleedred]

Yeah Risto’s one of the worst players in the league and literally always has been. Buch is great. It’s an awful deal for the Rangers giving him up for a 2nd and Blais.

Ah, okay. I was confused there. I was like ''Wasn't he really good? He got that bad already?'' but I didn't realize you meant for the Rangers it was bad.

Yes, I've been beating my chest and pounding the drum on how stupid that deal was for the Rangers. I've been told ''It wasn't that bad''.

Yeah, a PPG player for a 4th liner isn't that bad. Okay, yeah, sure, whatever.

And I know he wasn't really a PPG with the Rangers, but he was still a borderline 1st line player and getting nothing back but a measly 2nd and a guy that's shown no ability to be anything better than a borderline 3rd liner during his best stretch and his NHL production to date has been identical to Jesper Boqvist's. That's really worth publicly shaming them for a long time over.

That deal looks worse than Larsson for Hall at this point.

 

[Hisch13r]

Ah, okay. I was confused there. I was like ''Wasn't he really good? He got that bad already?'' but I didn't realize you meant for the Rangers it was bad.

Yes, I've been beating my chest and pounding the drum on how stupid that deal was for the Rangers. I've been told ''It wasn't that bad''.

Yeah, a PPG player for a 4th liner isn't that bad. Okay, yeah, sure, whatever.

And I know he wasn't really a PPG with the Rangers, but he was still a borderline 1st line player and getting nothing back but a measly 2nd and a guy that's shown no ability to be anything better than a borderline 3rd liner during his best stretch and his NHL production to date has been identical to Jesper Boqvist's. That's really worth publicly shaming them for a long time over.

That deal looks worse than Larsson for Hall at this point.

lol

 

[MadDevil]

Speaking of awful trades, I'm hoping and praying Florida wins the draft lottery so we can say they traded Bedard for Ben Chiarot.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

imagine if we traded Bratt for Erik Haula

thats basically what the Rangers did with Buch, but probably even worse

 

[Colin226]

I’m in New Hampshire for the night so I watched the Bruins game.. I’ve always heard people say Jack Edwards is terrible but I didn’t realize just how brutal he is to listen to. How does he have that job?!

 

[Triumph]

I’m in New Hampshire for the night so I watched the Bruins game.. I’ve always heard people say Jack Edwards is terrible but I didn’t realize just how brutal he is to listen to. How does he have that job?!

I didn't notice until someone pointed it out how he basically can't say a sentence without... pausing, or at least, taking...his time. Something's going on there, he wasn't like that a few years ago.

 

[Guttersniped]

That was mostly to mock one MIA poster that had such a fascination with these two players. I'm pretty sure he even cited Hyman last year as being a reason the Oilers had gotten better and the Leafs were struggling and that the Leafs just can't win a playoff round with him gone. And he was way over pumping up the tires of Goodrow.

To be fair, one player appears to be significantly better than the other and that player is Hyman.

I will never understand why Goodrow is traded for 1st round picks or signed for 7 year deals. I watched him come up with the Sharks and he was basically a 4th liner/borderline 3rd liner outside of his last year there. If Tampa hadn't won those two cups with him after trading their 1st for him, that trade would constantly be mocked and looked at as being very bad. He also scored that big series winning goal in game 7 against Vegas in 2019 when the Sharks came back from 3-0 down late in that game and scored a bunch of goals on the double minor power play. And it was a game where he played 7 minutes, while the game I think lasted almost 80 minutes. One of his 5 career playoff goals in 74 games.

For all the ''Playoff performer'' talk, the guy has a measly FIVE playoff goals and 15 points in 74 career playoff games.

Goodrow wasn’t traded straight up for TBL 1st, the Sharks included PHI 3rd. The picks ended up being 2020 #31 (obviously) and the 2020 #85.

And he got such a shocking return because he was signed for 2020-21 at 925k, just like Coleman got us a better 1st and Tampa’s 2019 1st Rd pick because he was signed an extra year at 1.8m.

Tampa was trading for those contracts. There was no way for BriseBois to know that a global pandemic was going to make 2020-21 56 games long and that Kucherov’s 9.5m would be on the LTIR for all of it.

So he was getting ready to tighten his belt as much as possible, as well as throw some bodies off the roster, and having those two contribute a ton for 2.725m was going to key part of it.

It’s not just about points, Tampa really does have a shut down mode in the playoffs where they’re content to get their points on the PP and ride Vasi while they smother their opponent.

 

[Triumph]

That was mostly to mock one MIA poster that had such a fascination with these two players. I'm pretty sure he even cited Hyman last year as being a reason the Oilers had gotten better and the Leafs were struggling and that the Leafs just can't win a playoff round with him gone. And he was way over pumping up the tires of Goodrow.

To be fair, one player appears to be significantly better than the other and that player is Hyman.

I will never understand why Goodrow is traded for 1st round picks or signed for 7 year deals. I watched him come up with the Sharks and he was basically a 4th liner/borderline 3rd liner outside of his last year there. If Tampa hadn't won those two cups with him after trading their 1st for him, that trade would constantly be mocked and looked at as being very bad. He also scored that big series winning goal in game 7 against Vegas in 2019 when the Sharks came back from 3-0 down late in that game and scored a bunch of goals on the double minor power play. And it was a game where he played 7 minutes, while the game I think lasted almost 80 minutes. One of his 5 career playoff goals in 74 games.

For all the ''Playoff performer'' talk, the guy has a measly FIVE playoff goals and 15 points in 74 career playoff games.

This poster is definitely IA, he's just under his 24th name at this point. Although to be fair there are two guys who I can't tell apart who come in with a new name every month and maybe one of them is finally gone.

 

[Guttersniped]

I didn't notice until someone pointed it out how he basically can't say a sentence without... pausing, or at least, taking...his time. Something's going on there, he wasn't like that a few years ago.

Yeah, I actually forgot what he used to sound like until I heard an old clip recently and the difference is startling. He really needs to retire.

 

[Colin226]

I didn't notice until someone pointed it out how he basically can't say a sentence without... pausing, or at least, taking...his time. Something's going on there, he wasn't like that a few years ago.

That was it! The pauses multiple times per sentence were so bizarre and off putting. I just figured it was his shtick and for whatever reason NESN liked it. I do feel bad though if it’s a condition he’s developed…

 

[Guttersniped]

This poster is definitely IA, he's just under his 24th name at this point. Although to be fair there are two guys who I can't tell apart who come in with a new name every month and maybe one of them is finally gone.

One of them, I’m assuming I know the poster(s) you’re discussing lol, must be completely broken with how well Tatar has been playing this season, with posters even saying they would like to re-sign him if he would take a team friendly deal.

It was one thing to bitch about Tatar last season, plenty did, but I’m still testy about them endlessly ragging on people who said positive things about him when he signed. And now those people were proved right!

But sure, why admit you were wrong when you can slink into another alias instead.

It’s not hard to admit you’re wrong, I promise! I literally complained when people kept jokingly said Zajac was getting traded to the Islanders. I forcefully insisted that wasn’t going to happen. *checks notes* It did in fact happen.

(BTW My logic still stand lol, they needed LHD and a scoring winger a lot and were deep down the center. How was I supposed to know he would be a toss-in with a scoring winger? Eh, oops.)

 

[Emperoreddy]

Yeah Risto’s one of the worst players in the league and literally always has been. Buch is great. It’s an awful deal for the Rangers giving him up for a 2nd and Blais.

I think they are finally all gone, but it was funny how there were always some Risto defenders despite him never being good.

I remember one or two people wanting us to bring him in.

 

[glenwo2]

Water is wet.
Fire is hot.
Haula can't score.

 

[Clam Jensen]

lol

Hib Milks is a 10/10 name

 

[HBK27]