Around the League 2022-23 season thread - part II

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Looks like a complete mess out in Vancouver - hopefully Quinn helps Jack and Luke realize how good they have it here. I can't see the Devils trading for Quinn, but I could see a scenario where he signs here in another 4 1/2 years once he hits unrestricted free agency if the situation is right. For now though, I'll just enjoy the clown show:





 
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Bad team and bad prospect pool. They’re reminiscent of the final Lou days. At least they have Quinn and EP but even then it doesn’t look like it matters much



I’m not sure if they’re better off or worse than we were. We had nothing worth anything when we started the rebuild, but we also didn’t have all the anchor contracts.
 

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I’m not sure if they’re better off or worse than we were. We had nothing worth anything when we started the rebuild, but we also didn’t have all the anchor contracts.

If they were to actually commit to a rebuild they’d be better off since they actually have guys to move and an OEL deal wouldn’t really matter at that point since you’re going to be bad. Since they won’t they’re instead stuck in the mushy middle so it’s not really any better than our final Lou days
 

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One of them, I’m assuming I know the poster(s) you’re discussing lol, must be completely broken with how well Tatar has been playing this season, with posters even saying they would like to re-sign him if he would take a team friendly deal.

It was one thing to bitch about Tatar last season, plenty did, but I’m still testy about them endlessly ragging on people who said positive things about him when he signed. And now those people were proved right!

But sure, why admit you were wrong when you can slink into another alias instead.

It’s not hard to admit you’re wrong, I promise! I literally complained when people kept jokingly said Zajac was getting traded to the Islanders. I forcefully insisted that wasn’t going to happen. *checks notes* It did in fact happen.

(BTW My logic still stand lol, they needed LHD and a scoring winger a lot and were deep down the center. How was I supposed to know he would be a toss-in with a scoring winger? Eh, oops.)
I'm sorry, how can you say positive things about a guy who took advantage of a young person the way he did? What a sick predator. He should be investigated. Canceled at the very least. He gave Boquist a quartz watch. Quartz!! And he even took a photo showing the crime. He has no shame!! Absolutely disgusting. What's next, he gets Boquist to pay above retail for that Rolex Submariner he has his eye on? Just awful.
 

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If they were to actually commit to a rebuild they’d be better off since they actually have guys to move and an OEL deal wouldn’t really matter at that point since you’re going to be bad. Since they won’t they’re instead stuck in the mushy middle so it’s not really any better than our final Lou days

Not just OEL. Miller might be unmoveable, that’s a massive hit for seven years.
 

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If they were to actually commit to a rebuild they’d be better off since they actually have guys to move and an OEL deal wouldn’t really matter at that point since you’re going to be bad. Since they won’t they’re instead stuck in the mushy middle so it’s not really any better than our final Lou days

They'd have to be able to move Miller before his next contract (LOL) and NMC kick in. Not sure there's any interest out there...mabye Lou would take that contract on?

Not just OEL. Miller might be unmoveable, that’s a massive hit for seven years.

For a player that seems completely checked out and may be a locker room cancer.
 

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I’m not sure if they’re better off or worse than we were. We had nothing worth anything when we started the rebuild, but we also didn’t have all the anchor contracts.
the canucks are lightyears ahead of where we were in the start of the rebuild. "anchor" contracts aside they have a ton of guys they can ship off and get really really really nice returns for something that we couldn't do with ryder/havlat/brunner/joffeson and whatever else crap we were throwing out there. not even remotely close to the two talent levels.
 

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Not just OEL. Miller might be unmoveable, that’s a massive hit for seven years.

everyone gets hung up on these bad contracts on rebuilding teams. it isn't going to hurt their on ice play since they are a bad team they obviously don't need the cap space since they are a rebuilding team the only person this would hurt is the owner who has to pay them out for 7 years more instead of trading them sooner.
 

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The canucks are a mess, and I get Miller has been kind of a tool before, but the lack of effort from a professional is still actually shocking to me. He seems completely detached from reality to the point where you wonder if there's something more going on than is public.
everyone gets hung up on these bad contracts on rebuilding teams. it isn't going to hurt their on ice play since they are a bad team they obviously don't need the cap space since they are a rebuilding team the only person this would hurt is the owner who has to pay them out for 7 years more instead of trading them sooner.
I would agree, but this is 7 more years of someone who is apparently just disinterested in performing. You hope to be competitive by year 5 or 6 of rebuilding and then the cap space can disappear fast. By then, sure you can accept the guy being overpaid but you're at least hoping they can be a gritty vet showing the young players how to play the right way instead of whatever Miller is doing this year.

They could have presumably gotten legitimate future assets back for him this offseason before they signed him to that contract as well. It's just a mess, all around.
 

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everyone gets hung up on these bad contracts on rebuilding teams. it isn't going to hurt their on ice play since they are a bad team they obviously don't need the cap space since they are a rebuilding team the only person this would hurt is the owner who has to pay them out for 7 years more instead of trading them sooner.

I mean they’re not trying to rebuild though. That’s been abundantly clear.
 

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Looks like a complete mess out in Vancouver - hopefully Quinn helps Jack and Luke realize how good they have it here. I can't see the Devils trading for Quinn, but I could see a scenario where he signs here in another 4 1/2 years once he hits unrestricted free agency if the situation is right.
I needed to refresh what his cap hit is right now and it's too much to take on right now at $7.8M for four more years after this season.

However, when he does hit UFA, Jack will only be 26 and Luke 24. So if he wants to play with them, it at least won't be eternity.
 

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This seems like such a dumb hill to fight on, let alone die on.

Don’t like the shootout? Don’t watch.

Reality is that no one really wants the games to go longer. Players don’t want to risk injury, tv doesn’t get to sell additional ads, owners don’t make additional money. Fans wanted a winner and a loser.

3-3 is a bastardized version of hockey anyway. Skills needed are very different than 5-5. So, whatever with the shootout. It’s 3-3 too - just that three player competing with breakaways.
 
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This seems like such a dumb hill to fight on, let alone die on.

Don’t like the shootout? Don’t watch.

Reality is that no one really wants the games to go longer. Players don’t want to risk injury, tv doesn’t get to sell additional ads, owners don’t make additional money. Fans wanted a winner and a loser.

3-3 is a bastardized version of hockey anyway. Skills needed are very different than 5-5. So, whatever with the shootout. It’s 3-3 too - just that three player competing with breakaways.
Are you "Dying" on the hill that says that the shootout is like 3-on-3 overtime? wow...okay dude. :dunno:

BTW, I don't know if you have read that the GREATEST PLAYER IN THE NHL TODAY(McDavid) thinks the Shootout is dumb.

So I guess he's fighting on a so-called "dumb hill" also... :eyeroll:


But I guess you'd probably say "Well if he doesn't like the Shootout, he shouldn't participate" lol
 
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I don't particularly like shootouts either, but they're not going anywhere so continuing to be upset by them seems like a waste of time and effort. It seems like there are fewer of them the last few years, although maybe we just haven't been in as many in recent years. The only thing that really annoys me is the slow ass, barely moving attempts that shooters make that almost feels like cheating. If I was a goalie I'd just straight up body check one of them when they tried it, but then I'm a bit of a hot head at times.:laugh:
 
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