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Around the League 2018-2019 Part 3

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deeshamrock said:
LeBrun says that the Bolts are very interested in Pavelski. With all the contracts they have to sign, where is that $$ coming from

Also, he said the Leafs called the Bolts about Stralman but the price was too high
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It's pretty clear to me the new strategy is to stockpile players, go over or against the cap then trade whoever you like to another team. There's a reason why these NHL teams hire Capologists, being at, near or above the Cap isn't an issue for them. They already have moves planned out in the future to cover their bases.
 
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Honestly, he has mid round pick value at the deadline should the Kings want to move him.
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If he plays like he did last season, he could fetch a 2nd at the TDL no problem.

Cup-winning experience and "playoff made" with the ability to skate a physical shift while not being a liability.
 
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GoldenBearHockey said:
....Johnsson in line for 1.5- 1.7 million maybe 2 million, if you get someone take Marleau's 6.25 million and you have to take 3 million on, there is Kapanen on a 2-3 year deal for 4.2 million,

They don't have to deal Kapanen, Johnsson, Kadri, or Brown.

Do what you can to dump Zaitsev and Marleau, they are in excellent shape for youth, they can afford to dump a 2nd on each deal and not get hurt
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Well, I was close with Kapanen, not so much Johnsson, but I had it at 6.1 between the two of them and it turned out to be 6.6 million, but they got rid of Marleau, rumour has it EDM is kicking tires on Zaitsev.....if they sign Marner to a 2 year 8million deal, they call it a summer and off they go
 
kingsholygrail said:
So if he has another career year, he can fetch a 2nd?
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He's had better SH% seasons before last year's so it could happen. Bottom line is a team that fancies itself a contender but doesn't have a lot of experience will happily add Clifford. Maybe a 3rd is more likely but he's a solid depth add at the TDL for a playoff team and there are no contract repercussions after the season.

+4 on last year's team should be worth a 2nd round pick right now.
 
KINGS17 said:
I have seen the relegation and promotion system suggested by some (mostly European I presume) NHL fans. How does that work? If a team were relegated, does that mean they miss out on a team like Colorado or Tampa coming to town during the relegation period?

If so, I don't think American fans would buy in to that at all.
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The best analogy would be using the AHL if it wasn't a developmental league affiliated with teams, but rather an independent professional league. So in this scenario the AHL could bid on the same free agents as the NHL, but they mostly would lack the financial firepower to compete with NHL teams due to smaller stadiums, lower prices, and so on. They could probably compete for bubble guys though, or maybe offer guys like Lewis or Clifford top dollar to lure them away. There is no cap in any of the leagues. Also, you can buy players from other teams, so in addition to paying their salary, you have to pay the other teams for the transfer. For example, Toronto could buy Doughty by paying the Kings $40M, which the Kings could reinvest in other players.

At the end of each season, the bottom 3 teams in the NHL would be relegated to the AHL, with the top 3 AHL teams promoted to the NHL. So regulated teams would no longer play NHL teams, but San Diego, Bakersfield, Ontario, etc. The top AHL teams would play an NHL schedule.

The money difference is huge because of TV revenues, so once you hit the NHL you would want to stay there. So basically you have of teams. Ones who would spend whatever they could to get top players and win the Cup (NYR, Toronto, MTL). Then a 2nd tier who would spend to try and be competitive, but more efficient and not just throw money around (LA, Chicago, Boston, Philly, Detroit, maybe Vancouver, Pittsburgh, Washington). Then a third tier of teams who might not never challenge for a cup, but is comfortably safe in the NHL. Your fourth tier teams would be those who don't want to spend (or don't have) the resources and are usually threatened with moving down (Florida, Islanders, Arizona, to a lesser extent Buffalo, Carolina, and Anaheim)

Parity takes a huge hit in a system like this, but at the same time there are big incentives to stay in the top league so your bottom teams are pressured to spend more. It would be a huge change of what people are used to.
 
GoldenBearHockey said:
Well, I was close with Kapanen, not so much Johnsson, but I had it at 6.1 between the two of them and it turned out to be 6.6 million, but they got rid of Marleau, rumour has it EDM is kicking tires on Zaitsev.....if they sign Marner to a 2 year 8million deal, they call it a summer and off they go
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They are offering 2 yrs, he wants 5 , he wants the term they gave Nylander. And that would be about 10 M (rumored). Leafs shouldn't have caved to Nylander's demands. Marner's better and he knows it.

Also, they need to improve their blueline, so somebody has to get moved. Kadri is not a 3C, because he's stuck behind Tavares and Matthews. He's a good 2 way c, 30 g's , he'd be a great 2C on most teams and could help them land a defenseman. I don't think the Leafs are done.
 
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Hopefully for the AVS, he bounces back. Has the talent but something didn't gel in DC. Maybe being buried on the 3rd line for most shifts ? Whatever the reason, a bit of a risk but then again, maybe a new zip code and a new system with new linemates will put him back on course
 
Brian Burke theorizing on Hockey Central that Aho will get an offer sheet. In the 9 M range, it means 2 firsts, a second and a third. Which I would do , I think he's that good and 22 when the new season starts, he's gonna get better.

Le Brun has been saying teams are talking to him. (He thinks Aho is looking for something in the 9.5 x 8 range)
Could be if Panarin doesn't sign in NYC, Papa Lou might throw his money at Aho, who along with Barzel gives them a good 1 ,2 punch down the middle.
 
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NHL Rumors: Tension and Trade Talks Heating Up In Pittsburgh - MyNHLTradeRumors.com


Rob Rossi of The Athletic: Things are apparently getting pretty ugly between the Pittsburgh Penguins and winger Phil Kessel

According to the article, the Pens want to move him but perhaps are hampered by the fact 5 of the 8 teams on his NMC list are not teams they are willing to trade him to. THey're gonna have to move off that , they need the $$ and he's been on the block all year. Apparently they had interest in Perry and Simmonds but no $$.

Kessel has 3 yrs left on his deal , 6.5 hit
 
deeshamrock said:
Brian Burke theorizing on Hockey Central that Aho will get an offer sheet. In the 9 M range, it means 2 firsts, a second and a third. Which I would do , I think he's that good and 22 when the new season starts, he's gonna get better.

Le Brun has been saying teams are talking to him. (He thinks Aho is looking for something in the 9.5 x 8 range)
Could be if Panarin doesn't sign in NYC, Papa Lou might throw his money at Aho, who along with Barzel gives them a good 1 ,2 punch down the middle.
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Don’t see it happening. Aho has said he wants to remain in Carolina and he will.

He’s a budding star. Waddell and ownership retain him. You don’t let a player of that high end caliber walk for the unknown of draft picks.
 
TSN's Frank Seravalli thinks the Rangers are the lead dog for Panarin,. Panarin is seeeking 12 to 12.5M per year. Although he and Bob want to stay together, the Panthers are the only team that could go that route. But their 1st priority is Bob.

He discusses some potential upcoming moves:

https://www.tsn.ca/video/seravalli-gives-his-front-runners-for-panarin-bobrovsky-and-duchene~1718404

Isles are aggressive in seeking to sign both as well.

Rangers upgrades/moves shouldn't be a secret to anyone, once JD too that chair, he was going to put the same mark on them as he in St Louis and Columbus .
 
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If I was one of these teams in the market for Panarin, I would rather offer sheet one of Aho/Rantanen for 10.5M/7yrs. One of those guys in their prime is worth two 1sts, a 2nd and a 3rd.

Both Carolina and Colorado seem like teams reluctant to spend big money. But then again Carolina did payout Marleau for a 1st.
 
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johnjm22 said:
If I was one of these teams in the market for Panarin, I would rather offer sheet one of Aho/Rantanen for 10.5M/7yrs. One of those guys in their prime is worth two 1sts, a 2nd and a 3rd.

Both Carolina and Colorado seem like teams reluctant to spend big money. But then again Carolina did payout Marleau for a 1st.
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Or Pointe, who wants an LTC in the 9M range. Bolts CAP is at 10.6M currently with only 16 players signed. But Pointe love it there and that 9M in FLA is 7M.
 
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