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"Nobody is afraid of Bedard"....Bruce Boudreau

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CanadasTeam99 said:
He doesn't strike fear into you. He's still young

Don't like how pundits called him generational. He isn't

Generational is like Crosby and McDavid coming out of the gates roaring and just seeing them do everything

Celebrini looks more terrifying imo
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Celebrini is similar to Taylor Hall in style and ability.
 
Give this kid some time...he's 19, and the leading scorer producing at a 70 point pace on a garbage team. MacK didn't do that until he was 22.
 
What is Celebrini doing statistically this year that Bedard didn't do last year?

Similar PPG
Slightly better looking plus/minus
Better GPG
Worse APG
Better linemates
Equally inept team
 
daver said:
What is Celebrini doing statistically this year that Bedard didn't do last year?

Similar PPG
Slightly better looking plus/minus
Better GPG
Worse APG
Better linemates
Equally inept team
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He's doing a much better job at getting to scoring areas and creating chances, while playing a much better two way game. His bigger, faster, stronger, and plays a more competitive style.

He projects as a legit play driving center who can match up all over the ice. Bedard looks more like an elite offensive winger who will be stuck on the perimeter.

KillerMillerTime said:
Only a handful of players could, but he isn't slow by any stretch.
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He's not slow, but I wouldn't call him fast, and the data supports that.
 
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Bedard right now is a toxic scorer. He scores point at a decent rate, but it's a result of a very high-risk play style that grants the opponents more chances than the Hawks.
He also doesn't help his team in any other way at all, an extremely one-dimensional player so far. He doesn't have linemates of comparable skill, but he's also not close to his own teammates in effort.

I'm not sure several seasons of junior-style play in the NHL on a losing team with zero accountability advances Bedard's play much.
 
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WhiskeyYerTheDevils said:
He's doing a much better job at getting to scoring areas and creating chances, while playing a much better two way game. His bigger, faster, stronger, and plays a more competitive style.

He projects as a legit play driving center who can match up all over the ice. Bedard looks more like an elite offensive winger who will be stuck on the perimeter.


He's not slow, but I wouldn't call him fast, and the data supports that.
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As usual, you love to provide context for every player being compared to Bedard, but not Bedard himself.
 
WhiskeyYerTheDevils said:
What context did I provide?
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Read your post. Along with your ones regarding Hughes. You will bend over backwards to provide context (2 way play, "getting to scoring areas", "driving possession" "competitive style") to any player you are comparing to Bedard across every thread you pop your head into, without ever acknowledge the context that makes Bedard's production even more impressive than it looks on the surface.
 
WhiskeyYerTheDevils said:
He can't skate like Kariya, but he's got better puck skills.
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Not many could skate like Kariya and still do things with the puck. My short list starts with Bure and McDavid. Kariya could absolutely fly.

As for Boudreau's comment? It's him doing his job as a commenter to elicit a reaction. Is there a grain of truth to it? Yeah, maybe, but you know that Bedard already knows it and Chicago is likely already talking to him about it. Hockey has a way of eating its young at times. Remember when Don Cherry was criticizing Sidney Crosby for scoring a lacrosse style goal in junior? Called him a "hot dog" for using his skill to help his team. ?Imagine. I wouldn't worry about Bedard if I were Hawks. Soon enough, teams will be game-planning to stop him.
 
Chelios said:
Read your post. Along with your ones regarding Hughes. You will bend over backwards to provide context (2 way play, "getting to scoring areas", "driving possession" "competitive style") to any player you are comparing to Bedard across every thread you pop your head into,
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That's not context, those are attributes of their respective games. Context would be things like "he's playing 4th line minutes".

Chelios said:
without ever acknowledge the context that makes Bedard's production even more impressive than it looks on the surface.
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Perhaps you should re-read my posts, you probably missed where I talk about how Bedard has little to no support which causes him to try to do too much. In this thread no less.
 
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