Armchair GMs: What moves would you make to maximize the roster?

[Shaman464]

Howard at the peak of his trade value? He's played one regular season game since losing his starting job in the playoffs to a 22 year old with like 30 games of experience. He is not close to the peak of his trade value.

It was a joke. They both had one good game so I made a joke that it was time to ship them out.

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

how much would vantanen cost? would he be worth it if it included one of nyquist or tatar?

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

how much would vantanen cost? would he be worth it if it included one of nyquist or tatar?

I believe on the big board someone did Nyquist+Smith for Vantanen. I wonder if that would do it. Would definitely love him on the team.

 

[DanZ]

It was a joke. They both had one good game so I made a joke that it was time to ship them out.

Well Abby is at his peak trade value considering he had a career year last season and now has 4 goals in his first two games while Howard had one of the worst years of his career.. So the joke wasn't really obvious...

 

[HisNoodliness]

I believe on the big board someone did Nyquist+Smith for Vantanen. I wonder if that would do it. Would definitely love him on the team.

I'd do that trade. I think it would be enough too. Watching the defense this year has hammered home just how necessary some help is. DK Will help when he's back but we need another young established top 4 D.

I would trade one of Nyquist and Tatar, one of Jurco and Pulkkinen, and one of Bert and AA plus any defenseman besides DK and Kronwall on the way to one or two good young D.

 

[InjuredChoker]

how much would vantanen cost? would he be worth it if it included one of nyquist or tatar?

cost would probably be something like that, yeah. for me, tatar no. nyquist.. maybe but one or two wingers would need to play well this season. but ducks need LW more than RW.

 

[SlavaKozlov]

Wings best bet on Howard would be for him to play well until the deadline and then have a contenders goalie go down so we can actually get something for him. Then we use those assets to land a d upgrade.

Depends on the goalie situation on this hypothetical team.

That would be fine if Howard was a rental player/pending UFA, but Howard is signed for 3 more years after this one with a $5.29 mil cap hit... How many teams want Jimmy Howard at that term and salary for 3 more years?

I am assuming most contending teams that would have their starter go down would have a goalie situation under control for the next couple years, right? Unless it is Calgary or something, I guess.

 

[Cyborg Yzerberg]

I think this team is one top 4 defenseman away from being a threat. Trading for a pending UFA like Hamhuis or Byfuglien is the kind of step that would make us a final 4 team, imo.

I don't envy Holland's job though, he's going to have to make tough decisions soon.

 

[Pavels Dog]

I believe on the big board someone did Nyquist+Smith for Vantanen. I wonder if that would do it. Would definitely love him on the team.

To me the need for Vatanen on the Wings disappeared when we signed Green and drafted Saarijarvi. The fomer is better than Vatanen and the latter probably will be in 2-3 years.

 

[TheMule93]

Honestly when datsyuk returns, one of nyquist or tatar is EASILY expendable. One of them will likely be playing on the third line - might as well trade that one away for someone who will play a larger role on our team... like byufien

hell, already today they were practicing with nyquist on the 3rd line. When dats comes back one of them will definitely be a mainstay there

IDC which one we move. I'd prefer Nyquist ONLY because he is older. He probably has good value with that cheap ass contract too. That being said I do think he is the slightly better player.

 

[Michael Brand Eggs]

Call me crazy, but I'd like to trade for Chara. He's slow, but you could pair him with Green, who's very mobile. Ship out Quincey, who you're basically upgrading.

Kronwall-DeKeyser
Chara-Green

You improve the PK, likely improve the second unit PP, add some toughness and leadership on the back end, and you probably don't pay a ton. His contract is a little rough, but that's nothing a little LTIR magic can't fix when the time comes. In the short term, sending Quincey back should sort out the cap issues.

I'd do Quincey, Jurco/Pulkkinen, and a 2nd. That's fair value for a declining guy with 21 million left on his contract.

 

[WingedWheel1987]

Call me crazy, but I'd like to trade for Chara. He's slow, but you could pair him with Green, who's very mobile. Ship out Quincey, who you're basically upgrading.

Kronwall-DeKeyser
Chara-Green

You improve the PK, likely improve the second unit PP, add some toughness and leadership on the back end, and you probably don't pay a ton. His contract is a little rough, but that's nothing a little LTIR magic can't fix when the time comes. In the short term, sending Quincey back should sort out the cap issues.

I'd do Quincey, Jurco/Pulkkinen, and a 2nd. That's fair value for a declining guy with 21 million left on his contract.

Chara looks old and slow. I would not give up any draft picks. Detroit would be doing Boston a favor by taking him.

 

[Cyborg Yzerberg]

Chara looks old and slow. I would not give up any draft picks. Detroit would be doing Boston a favor by taking him.

The other problem is that there is THREE years left on his contract. If his contract were expiring this summer, I'd gladly welcome him. He's still a top 4 defenseman, for sure, but for three more years? That's an albatross.

Besides, we can get Hamhuis or Byfuglien at the deadline.

Or, we can shell off our surplus of assets and try to get Shattenkirk, Brodie, whomever might be available.

 

[Michael Brand Eggs]

Chara looks old and slow. I would not give up any draft picks. Detroit would be doing Boston a favor by taking him.

It's possible that we wouldn't have to. Plus, it could be a way to fix some of the logjam we've got. Sending a defenseman and a forward back would help out a bit.

 

[redwingsphan]

Call me crazy, but I'd like to trade for Chara. He's slow, but you could pair him with Green, who's very mobile. Ship out Quincey, who you're basically upgrading.

Kronwall-DeKeyser
Chara-Green

You improve the PK, likely improve the second unit PP, add some toughness and leadership on the back end, and you probably don't pay a ton. His contract is a little rough, but that's nothing a little LTIR magic can't fix when the time comes. In the short term, sending Quincey back should sort out the cap issues.

I'd do Quincey, Jurco/Pulkkinen, and a 2nd. That's fair value for a declining guy with 21 million left on his contract.

I don't really like moving DD over to the other side, as it seems to make him less effective. I don't have any stats for this, but it just seems that way.

That makes the question: is a less effective DD and Chara better than what you are giving up? I don't know if it is. And even though he only has $18m left on his deal, (it drops to $4m in the last year. I'd never heard about it until today, look it up), it could be tough if he is constantly banged up. And at his age it's probably going to happen.

Now if Boston eats a couple million each year, I'd say it would be intriguing.

 

[WingedWheel1987]

It's possible that we wouldn't have to. Plus, it could be a way to fix some of the logjam we've got. Sending a defenseman and a forward back would help out a bit.

I can understand why someone would want to do it, but i guess i would just rather hold those pieces for a player who is closer to 30 than 40.

I would expect their NHL16 GM to at least be competent enough to ask for more since it's a division rival.

 

[r0bert8841]

It wouldn't surprise me if Holland makes a run for Chara, since we don't have as many veterans on this team as Hollamd likes (just D, Z, and Richards?). A guy with his leadership and work ethic would be great for such a young locker room, especially with D and Z injured so frequently. Not to mention he's a playoff monster.

Jurco/pulkinenn/Sheahan+Quincey/Smith/Marchenko+1st/2nd.

 

[Retire91]

If there is a trade for D would prefer a D that is going to be considered part of the core. The two best players on the team are in their last few years. Every asset the team has is important and Holland's record on renting a cup run leaves a lot to be desired. Its critical Holland wins a trade if it helps the team contend both now and ongoing.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Honestly when datsyuk returns, one of nyquist or tatar is EASILY expendable. One of them will likely be playing on the third line - might as well trade that one away for someone who will play a larger role on our team... like byufien

hell, already today they were practicing with nyquist on the 3rd line. When dats comes back one of them will definitely be a mainstay there

IDC which one we move. I'd prefer Nyquist ONLY because he is older. He probably has good value with that cheap ass contract too. That being said I do think he is the slightly better player.

Honestly I would rather keep Tatar over Nyquist, I could see Nyquist being more expendable I would do Nyquist+Smith for Byfuglien signed to a reasonable contract extension or maybe Nyquist+Jurco+1st round pick for Shattenkirk if St Louis made him available say next summer I picked jurco as part of the deal for Shattenkirk but it would take far more then him to get Shattenkirk along side of Nyquist most likely Mantha as well. But if we were to move Nyquist then I would think that Mantha takes his spot.

 

[Retire91]

I am not sure how hard Holland has been shoping for a young D. Hamilton and Desperes went for next to nothing, I haven't heard anything about Holland kicking the tires there. If he is not on top of those its hard to beleive he is looking around.

 

[Tatar]

I am not sure how hard Holland has been shoping for a young D. Hamilton and Desperes went for next to nothing, I haven't heard anything about Holland kicking the tires there. If he is not on top of those its hard to beleive he is looking around.

Bruins weren't going to trade Hamilton to an inner-division rival. Meanwhile Despres has hardly been a success. I've only seen a limited amount of his games, but still believe that Ouelett has a higher ceiling and therefore we would have no room for him on our roster.

 

[Frk It]

I am not sure how hard Holland has been shoping for a young D. Hamilton and Desperes went for next to nothing, I haven't heard anything about Holland kicking the tires there. If he is not on top of those its hard to beleive he is looking around.

Went after Myers several times. Rumored to be after Bogosian several times. Green just turned 30, he's not that old.

I think we will hear our name come up at the deadline. We are going to have a forward or two sitting that deserve to play somewhere, so we could either spare them or one of the regulars easily.

 

[Mount Suribachi]

If there is a trade for D would prefer a D that is going to be considered part of the core. The two best players on the team are in their last few years. Every asset the team has is important and Holland's record on renting a cup run leaves a lot to be desired. Its critical Holland wins a trade if it helps the team contend both now and ongoing.

What a bizarre criticism to make. Every year 16 GM's try to rent a cup run. Every year, only one of them succeeds. Does that make the other 15 GM's failures? Every year, only one GM can get a Brad Stuart for a 2nd and 4th and win a cup with them.

 

[InjuredChoker]

don't care who we go after or don't, as long as phaneuf isn't on this roster.

 

[Flowah]

I think this team is one top 4 defenseman away from being a threat. Trading for a pending UFA like Hamhuis or Byfuglien is the kind of step that would make us a final 4 team, imo.

I don't envy Holland's job though, he's going to have to make tough decisions soon.

I say top2, which I consider Buff to be. We have like 4 guys who can play middle pairing. What we need is someone to take E out of the top pairing spot.