Sportsnet: Arizona have received an offer matching their asking price for Jakob Chychrun.

[PBPantherfan]

Delete double post

 

[T-Funk]

Alright, Koskinen Yamamoto and a 2028 1st. No one can beat that, sign the papers Arizona.

 

[FlaPanthers11]

Lol not really.

Vatrano is gone. He won't be brought back. Nutivaara is gone. Acciari will be gone.

Marchment and Mamim will still be cheap.

A lot of the players they need to sign are AHLers and RFA.

Florida doesn't have cap issues till Huberdeau needs a deal...provided the cap remains the same

And even in that case, if Huberdeau gets 10M and Weegar gets 7M, the Panthers would have their top 8 Fs, 4D, and 1G signed for 72M. You'll have aout 10M in space to fill out the bottom line/pairing/Knight who doesn't look like he will be due for a big raise. Some ELCs and cheap UFAs will be plugged in.

Sure you're not going to be able to have the same depth as this year but the Panthers cap the next few seasons is an easily solvable problem

 

[Dread Clawz]

Can you explain to me how if the bottom 3D are kinda bad the top 4 would be studly? Panthers gonna play the season with 7D?

Yeah? Most teams carry 7 D....

 

[SnowblindNYR]

No. Of course not. How does your brain work this way? The entire point of my posts has been that doesn’t matter.

But your post was that you want us to give up prospects that hurt. My point was that prospects hurting is related to factors that aren't necessarily related to their value. It's possible that Schneider was our third best D prospect and it wouldn't hurt to trade him, would that make him any less valuable?

 

[rt]

Rangers fans, how would you fee about Schneider, Jones, Berard, and your 1st for Chychrun?

 

[rt]

But your post was that you want us to give up prospects that hurt. My point was that prospects hurting is related to factors that aren't necessarily related to their value. It's possible that Schneider was our third best D prospect and it wouldn't hurt to trade him, would that make him any less valuable?

They hurt because they’re good and you don’t want to lose them. lol. Rather than guys you’re souring on because they’re going the wrong direction. Haha. Pretty basic man.

 

[cobra427]

That's absolutely not true, I'm not sure we watched the same games but there's a reason he was called Goals Against-ski by some people in the forum. Goligoski has never and will never be able to take the tough matchups and Chychrun covered for his braindead plays a lot. And Chychrun has been playing the same quality as OEL had been for years, this year he's just getting more minutes with a far more subpar partner, not that Bush is bad, but he's a stay at home net clearer and isn't a PMD at all like Goligoski was. OEL sucked on D way more than anything else in the last few years, especially before the trade. He was still competent on the PP but that looked like it. Chychrun is obviously struggling but it looks way more like he's just lost out there rather than his abilities have decreased at all.

This whole post is extremely revisionist and just straight up wrong.

Goligoski and OEL were both better on D than Chych, it wasn't close. Chych is getting more minutes with Bush, same partner as OEL. Pretty sure OEL had more production with Bush last year than chych has so far this year.

Be prepared to be disappointed in the return for Chych.

 

[DanielBrassard]

Rangers fans, how would you fee about Schneider, Jones, Berard, and your 1st for Chychrun?

I don't want to give up Jones.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

They hurt because they’re good and you don’t want to lose them. lol. Rather than guys you’re souring on because they’re going the wrong direction. Haha. Pretty basic man.

But the reason it doesn't hurt is the depth of our prospect pool not his value.

 

[Gentle Man]

And even in that case, if Huberdeau gets 10M and Weegar gets 7M, the Panthers would have their top 8 Fs, 4D, and 1G signed for 72M. You'll have aout 10M in space to fill out the bottom line/pairing/Knight who doesn't look like he will be due for a big raise. Some ELCs and cheap UFAs will be plugged in.

Sure you're not going to be able to have the same depth as this year but the Panthers cap the next few seasons is an easily solvable problem

I'm holding out hope that Yandle retires at the end of this season and his dead cap is removed....then he gets hired to Florida's front office

 

[Bevans]

Its called business.

Doubt people are concerned with popularity.

Business is reputation. Reneging is bad business.

 

[CapSpace]

Rathbone, Dipietro, Pearson, Poolman, and 2023 3rd for Chychyrun and 2022 2nd round pick would work for both teams tho doubt many Canuck fans would want to give up on Rathbone so easily

This is shit on a shit pile.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Business is reputation. Reneging is bad business.

Why do you think anyone is "reneging". Until they accept an offer, they haven't reneged on anything. The "criteria" of a 1st round pick and 2 former 1st round picks has a wide range of value. Julien Gauthier, Lias Andersen, Nolan Patrick, etc.. are all former 1st round picks. So are Lundell, Suzuki, Jarvis, etc..

Some of these players are not attractive, some are. There is no "I met your price so we have a deal" scenario and GMs know this. GM's also know that another GM is going to try and get the best offer he can get for a player. That's normal.

 

[Trxjw]

Rangers fans, how would you fee about Schneider, Jones, Berard, and your 1st for Chychrun?

I would feel very bad about it. Really don't think the Rangers are giving up Schneider.

 

[Peter Griffin]

I'm holding out hope that Yandle retires at the end of this season and his dead cap is removed....then he gets hired to Florida's front office

I don’t think it works that way.

 

[rt]

Business is reputation. Reneging is bad business.

This is some fantastical speculation here. Haha.

 

[rt]

But the reason it doesn't hurt is the depth of our prospect pool not his value.

I disagree. Haha.

 

[Nowotny]

Tinordi, Kravtsov and a 1st.

??? Tinordi was just put on waivers

 

[rt]

I don't want to give up Jones.

Tell me how Jones plays games for the Rangers if you acquire Chychrun.

 

[rt]

Goligoski and OEL were both better on D than Chych, it wasn't close. Chych is getting more minutes with Bush, same partner as OEL. Pretty sure OEL had more production with Bush last year than chych has so far this year.

Be prepared to be disappointed in the return for Chych.

You’re drunk. Log off.

EDIT: trying to be cute here. Not mean.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

I disagree. Haha.

How do you disagree why Rangers fans are willing to give up on Lundkvist? You're not a Rangers fan. If Schneider was our third best D prospect you would want someone else because you want to win the trade outright rather than have a possible win/win.

 

[DanielBrassard]

Tell me how Jones plays games for the Rangers if you acquire Chychrun.

We trade Miller. Or he moves to RD, he has some experience there. Do you prefer Schneider over Miller?

 

[Gentle Man]

I don’t think it works that way.

Well yea. I know players usually don't retire till they get paid out everything.

I'm hoping he actually retires and be a nice guy

 

[Peter Griffin]

Well yea. I know players usually don't retire till they get paid out everything.

I'm hoping he actually retires and be a nice guy

I just don’t think it matters if Yandle retires at this point, the caphit from the buyout remains. Florida basically paid him to go sit at home.