Tundra
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Are the NJ Devils already collapsing?
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Devilsfan992
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They can fall to 3rd pretty easily and it looked like they were running away with the division early. Not collapsing but they are not nearly as good as they looked early on.
6-1-1 in their last 8. They are fine.
Jauffre
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Had their worst stretch of the season whilst Carolina, NYR, Washington had their best.
Not a collapse, seeing as they're back on a winning track, but the rest of the pack caught up a bit.
Just a matter of who places where in the top 2/3. Most likely scenario is 1. Canes 2. Devils 3. NYR (maybe Caps).
Not a collapse, seeing as they're back on a winning track, but the rest of the pack caught up a bit.
Just a matter of who places where in the top 2/3. Most likely scenario is 1. Canes 2. Devils 3. NYR (maybe Caps).
Personally I and I think a lot of Devils fans would want to face the Rangers instead of the Capitals, Washington has had NJ's number for over a decade.
They're fine... But on December 3rd they were 14 points ahead of the Rangers and are now only 4. They were 8 points ahead of Carolina and are now 2 points back. They lost ground by 10 points in 6 weeks to two of their biggest rivals in the Metro. Sure a 13 game win streak isn't sustainable but am I wrong in saying they're not as good as they looked early in the year?
6 points separate the top three seeds, including two between the #1 and #2 seed. How can anything be a most likely scenario at this point?
Jauffre
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the top 3 are basically solidified
as a Rangers fan yourself, you must know that they're not finishing 1st. Our fanbase generally is capricious in nature but the OGs like yourself are self-aware & level-headed, thus understand that a 1-seed in this Metro is NOT happening
Carolina has been the most consistent team since game 1; they'd have been 1st in the div. all season if not for NJ's unsustainable hot start. Weak PP means shit-all until playoffs
NJ is just not taking care of business at home; thus will not be a 1st place team
it's crystal clear: CAR > NJ > NYR
bookmark this post, save the page as a PDF, do what you must - but return to me in April when the top 3 are literally as they are now
You're going to make me do the unthinkable and defend the Devils. "Unsustainable hot start", the Canes just had an 11 game winning streak and in total a 15-0-1 streak. How is that any less unsustainable than a 13 game winning streak? The Devils have had a better +/- to boot.
It seems to me that you've made up your mind before the season that Carolina is finishing #1 and the rest is confirmation bias.
And no I'm not conceding anything halfway through the season.
Jauffre
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you must have a free username change by now. SnowblindNJD might be more suitable
hot streaks are by definition not sustainable in the NHL; but a mid-season streak is definitely more noteworthy than one that occurs before American Thanksgiving, when half the league hasn't found their legs and are playing loosey goosey
structured hockey > all and the Canes have that in spades. +/- for NJ is slightly inflated due to the constant thrashing of lesser teams like Detroit, Columbus, Montreal, & Ottawa; by 5+ goals every meeting in Oct & Nov
you don't have to concede; just come to me in ~2½ months when my prediction is etched on the NHL.com standings page, assuming it loads
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tying the game with less than a second on the clock and winning in ot, is sustainable?
luck can be involved in many ways. not only in hot streaks.
24 pages about a team collapsing that *checks standings* is 3rd in the entire league.
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More than half of Carolina's schedule has been against teams not in the playoffs.
The Canes have played 24 games agaisnt teams currently not in the playoffs while the Devils have played 25 such games.
The Canes have played the 15th most difficult schedule while the Devils have played the 19th most difficult schedule.
Let's not act as if the Canes have had to run the gauntlet here.
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I think the Devils top end talent is higher than Carolina (ie Jack Hughes) but I think the Devils have less depth and more question marks on the blue line. I still think the Canes win the division but the Devils are going to be in the playoffs. If you told me the Devils would be where there now on January 15th back in September, I would’ve said you’re nuts.
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they looked like a top 5 team in the league, and still look like a top 5 team in the league.
Thank you for your concern, though!
I was talking about the Devils and comparing them to the Canes. And that was one game, so I'm not sure what conclusions you're drawing based on one game. The Rangers have blown more games in unthinkable ways this year than won. They blew a 3-0 third period lead and lost 4-3 in regulation to Edmonton, same with a 3-1 third period lead to the Isles. It evens out.
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There will be ebbs and flows in the season.
A 13 game win streak is an outlier in any team's season, so if that is the standard they are being held to as to what they showed earlier in the season, then yeah. They aren't as good as they were earlier in the season .
They still have the second best goal differential in the league, their numbers have fallen off somewhat, but still among the best in the league. Yes, they have flaws, and sometimes those flaws rear their ugly heads in the worst of ways, but every team is flawed in some regard. The Devils appear to be a perfectly good team.
A 13 game win streak is an outlier in any team's season, so if that is the standard they are being held to as to what they showed earlier in the season, then yeah. They aren't as good as they were earlier in the season .
They still have the second best goal differential in the league, their numbers have fallen off somewhat, but still among the best in the league. Yes, they have flaws, and sometimes those flaws rear their ugly heads in the worst of ways, but every team is flawed in some regard. The Devils appear to be a perfectly good team.
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That was a very poor showing against a very poor Sharks team. If they keep playing like that, yikes.
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3-0 on the Ontario/Quebec trip.
3-0 on the Alberta/BC trip.
3-0 on the California trip.
Zero teams in NHL history have done this, besides NJ this year.
This is a fact.
Good teams find ways to win games they don't deserve and bad teams find a way to lose games they should win
3-0 on the Alberta/BC trip.
3-0 on the California trip.
Zero teams in NHL history have done this, besides NJ this year.
This is a fact.
Good teams find ways to win games they don't deserve and bad teams find a way to lose games they should win
Man a lot of people eating crow who were relishing in NJs little stumble. They're legit.
Third game in less than 4 days after a long cross country trip. They will be fine.
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Yeah, it wasn't our best game for sure, but good teams find ways to win even when they don't play good. Hopefully it's a case of the team turning the corner from a "rebuilder" to a good team and simply finding ways to win the rare times they play a rough one.
This was also our 3rd game in 4 nights in California and a 4PM EST (1PM Pacific) game against a team who came out flying after getting called out by their coach about their last performance.
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