Confirmed with Link: [ANA/NYR] Jacob Trouba for Urho Vaakanainen and 2025 4th round pick

[KelVarnsen]

According to Natural Stat Trick, Trouba is 3rd worst amongst defensemen in the NHL in shots against per 60 when he’s on the ice at 5on5. The funny part is Fowler is 2nd worst.

He will fit right in to Cro’s give up a ton of shots system.

 

[Terry Yake]

For a team that for the last several years has given up shots against per 60 at near historical clips, not sure adding one of the worst players in the league at that to pair with another(Fowler) is going to help this team at all. I also don't like the idea that the players the Ducks are supposed to be developing are going to be riding the presser or sent down in favor of another vet that's best days(?) are long behind them. We'll see I guess but for now I hope Dostal and Gibson wear extra padding.

fowler and/or dumoulin will likely get moved at the deadline. don't expect those guys or trouba to see ice time for long over the young talent

 

[MMC]

I'll sound like a retread, but we really, really struggle defensively down low and in the crease. Our dmen are young and/or undersized for that kind of battle, the kind trouba should excel at.

If deployed the right way, I think trouba can be used in a way that maximizes his strengths as a physical guy who can move the puck some.

I don't expect him to be some savior, I just expect us to be physically tougher to play against, which is important and something we sorely lack.

Yeah this is where I'm at, I don't think it's a massive addition by any means but he fills a role on this team the same way guys like Fabbri and Dumoulin do and I have no problem with moving dime a dozen assets to bring in guys that can do that. He's overpaid for his role so people are upset about the cap hit but with how far we are from the cap (and how far we'll remain throughout his contract) if you're going to get up in arms about that really all you're upset about is the Samuelis having less money

 

[Ducks DVM]

fowler and/or dumoulin will likely get moved at the deadline. don't expect those guys or trouba to see ice time for long over the young talent

Dumoulin has been our steadiest defensive defenseman IMO. Sitting him for the kids, or ANY of the veterans, would be beyond stupid IMO.

I would also prefer Dumoulin going forward in my (extremely limited) viewing of Rangers Trouba this year.

Edit - perhaps Verbeek already has been told Dumoulin isn’t coming back next year?

 

[AngelDuck]

It’s not a bad move per se and I don’t care about the money really, but is he good at all?

Like, the numbers are terrible for him and that’s the real concern here.

But hopefully Fowler goes and this is just a fit/roster construction thing

 

[Static]

Could only see the headline of teammates loving him. Anything else note worthy?

“I can’t say enough about Troubs and what he’s meant to this team and this locker room overall,” goalie Jonathan Quick said. “He’s a great person, great teammate, great captain. Wishing him the best with dealing with all this stuff.”

Added Mika Zibanejad: “As a player, as a teammate, as a friend, as a human being, obviously we love him to death.”

Miller called Trouba “a huge part of our team” and said the Rangers would miss him against the Penguins on Friday.

 

[robbieboy3686]

I'll sound like a retread, but we really, really struggle defensively down low and in the crease. Our dmen are young and/or undersized for that kind of battle, the kind trouba should excel at.

If deployed the right way, I think trouba can be used in a way that maximizes his strengths as a physical guy who can move the puck some.

I don't expect him to be some savior, I just expect us to be physically tougher to play against, which is important and something we sorely lack.

Wow, a very based in logic and not just copy pasta ranger board spew. How dare you make sense around here!

 

[Static]

As fans of this franchise, I think our standards of viewing are going to prove to be much different than, say, what rangers fans are used to watching. We might absolutely love this guy because he provides a standard of competence that six years ago we probably would have complained about as well.

Wow, a very based in logic and not just copy pasta ranger board spew. How dare you make sense around here!

I could end up wrong. We will see.

 

[Machinehead]

@Leonardo87 make sure Donnie is taken care of

 

[2faded]

Fowler-Trouba
Zellweger-Dumoulin
LaCombe-Gudas

Helleson-Mintyukov to SD and press box?

Both Helleson and Minty should be in over Fowler and LaCombe

 

[bov]

That depth d-man put up way more respectable numbers last year than Trouba though, Verbeek essentially tossed NY a lifeline for no real reason despite holding the majority of the cards and I'd argue the Ducks may have gotten worse by addition especially if comes at the cost of benching a developing prospect so Cronin can cobble together a Fowler - Trouba line and say "I don't know" when they give up 60 shots.

What respectable numbers are you referring to? It would be a stretch to use hand-picked metrics given how significantly different their roles are, and have been for years. Trouba has averaged 20+ minutes his entire career, and has faced a more difficult workload year after year than Vaakinainen has ever really been trusted with.

The "basic" stats certainly don't indicate Vaak put up more respectable numbers, so I'm curious what you're talking about.

 

[Gliff]

This shouldnt be hard. Trade Fowler when they can, send Helleson down until then.

(Dont get caught up on pairings)
Minty-Gudas
Zellweger-Dumo
Lacombe-Trouba
Helleson

IDK why everyone is freaking out about playing time.

 

[KelVarnsen]

Wow, a very based in logic and not just copy pasta ranger board spew. How dare you make sense around here!

I see what you’re saying but do you expect Cronin to be able to deploy him the right way? I don’t and think Cro will probably overuse him because he is a vet and was an actual good defenseman at one point.

I don’t hate the trade but I don’t trust Cronin to be able to put him in situations he’ll succeed in.

 

[robbieboy3686]

I see what you’re saying but do you expect Cronin to be able to deploy him the right way? I don’t and think Cro will probably overuse him because he is a vet and was an actual good defenseman at one point.

I don’t hate the trade but I don’t trust Cronin to be able to put him in situations he’ll succeed in.

I think we will finally have evenly spread out minutes, I do really think he will balance us well.

 

[Peltz]

Rangers fan here in peace.

Trouba was struggling with an injury last year and then there was some drama offseason that may have affected his play. He certainly has fallen off hard, and if you're looking for a defensively capable d-man, I'm not sure he's the right guy. He really misses a lot of assignments that leads to goals against.

But so do all of our defensemen right now. So it could be on the coaches too.

He's really good when it comes to open ice hits as I'm sure you know, and he's a veteran that the rest of the team really seemed to respect.

I hope he's successful for you guys and have no ill will towards the guy. At the very least, he provides physicality and toughness for your squad and will likely play better with a change of scenery.

 

[KelVarnsen]

I think we will finally have one evenly spread out minutes, I do.

You’re an optimist!!! Cronin is just a piss poor coach so I guess I’m a pessimist lol

 

[ZegrassyKnoll]

According to Natural Stat Trick, Trouba is 3rd worst amongst defensemen in the NHL in shots against per 60 when he’s on the ice at 5on5. The funny part is Fowler is 2nd worst.

When I sort by players who have played around his total minutes for the last 3 seasons combined, it says he's 31st in that category.

He does have the 2nd most shot blocks in that time. Not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing lol

Edit - my bad, you did SA/60 not SA

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Fowler-Trouba
Zellweger-Dumoulin
LaCombe-Gudas

Helleson-Mintyukov to SD and press box?

Actually insane if that’s the plan lol

I think PV saw Fowler’s game back and said ya Imma take trouba, and I assume we’ll see a fowler trade shortly

 

[KelVarnsen]

Rangers fan here in peace.

Trouba was struggling with an injury last year and then there was some drama offseason that may have affected his play. He certainly has fallen off hard, and if you're looking for a defensively capable d-man, I'm not sure he's the right guy. He really misses a lot of assignments that leads to goals against.

But so do all of our defensemen right now. So it could be on the coaches too.

He's really good when it comes to open ice hits as I'm sure you know, and he's a veteran that the rest of the team really seemed to respect.

I hope he's successful for you guys and have no ill will towards the guy.

Thanks. If better coaching is what he needs, he came to the wrong place lol.

 

[MMC]

 

[Terry Yake]

i'm guessing helleson becomes the 7th d-man, assuming fowler is traded

 

[CrazyDuck4u]

 

[Peltz]

I think he and his wife were thinking long term about where they want to live. They could do worse than SoCal

 

[gunnergunther]

Would have preferred Fabbro for free. But Verbeek continues to be a terrible GM.

 

[LePerilsofPerreault]

My mind is all over the place with this one. Reserving judgement on his fit here but this reads as “me trust eyes. analytics no.”

His phsyical style of play and locker room presence might be needed, although he seems too shit in other aspects for that to matter. Urho is better at defending than him, but he’s LHD and a redundant player here.

However, as i’ve preached in the past, cap space doesn’t matter and it wouldn’t matter even it was 12+ mil for 3 years and he was sat on the bench.
I’m glad Verbeek made a move but based on Trouba’s play I don’t see this as that top-4 defensman.
But again, i’ll reserve judgement. Maybe he’ll have a resurgence here somehow.

And lastly, hopefully Fowler is gone especially for the young guys sake.