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Omni Owl said:
You'd think he'd want to be on a champ team though, but he chose to cash out while he still could.
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The money is more guaranteed than a Cup. Even with a Cup, the money is what will be paying for the house, car, kids, etc. Look no further than Maroon or Laich for the reason you take the money.

20 regulation goals in 11 home games against Pacific teams. They've scored more than 2 goals twice, and are just 1-1. Only 15 regulation goals in 8 home games against Central teams too. A 5-9 overall regulation record. 4-0 in OT, 0-1 in the SO.

3v3 doesn't exist in the playoffs. Sense of urgency or not, that's a little light on the regulation goals at home against the division and conference.
 
Our GF has been propped up by a good PP and 3v3 all season long.

This team has existed in this sort of limbo recently where they're not quite good enough offensively, and they're not good enough defensively, either. With Carter and Toffoli cold, and Gaborik injured, they're just not generating enough offense to win these tight games.

It'll even out. And ffs, Anaheim is not going to carry a .980 points percentage into the playoffs. They're 18-1-1 in their last twenty. That's ridiculous.
 
Ducks are peaking early, which is about the only positive I can muster. They HAVE to fall back to earth at some point.

Kings, OTOH, played a good game, but there's some DEAD weight on this team that is going to be a problem come playoff time. (Brown, I'm looking at you.) I've got a Brown jersey, and it kills me to see him be not just a shell of his former self, but he literally is an offense-killer. He gets so many grade A looks and has completely forgotten how to score, or hit, or really do much of anything right.
 
Posted this elsewhere:

FWIW, Kings stats that should be trending up for those who take stock in that sort of thing:

shooting % for the year: 6% flat. That would be their worst shooting % in the last decade (or more, since that's as far back as I went.) Yes, even worse than 2012. Their PDO is 99.3.

Since Jan 1st (beginning of their .500 hockey 'slump'): shooting 5.5%. The only teams who have gone a whole season less than 6.0 in the last long while are 2015 Arizona (5.7), 2013 FLA (5.8), and 2014 Buffalo (5.8). Their PDO since then has been 98.5

For the season, they're 56.3 CF%, and they've been 56.6% since Jan 1st, several percentages over everyone else. And it's high-danger scoring chances are up too, so let's not go the "lol la shoots everything" route, they've been visibly much more dangerous, it's just not going for them.

So, if you're a guy that subscribes to the idea that things will normalize again soon, then yes, the Kings are still a beast team to worry about in the west, no matter what team you're a fan of. If you think their shooters as a group are worse than the three mentioned teams, though, then well...that's your perogative I guess They're 20 points into a Pacific playoff spot so I wouldn't expect much from here on out, to be honest. Kings now need to focus on getting and staying healthy for the playoffs and not riding Kopitar and Doughty into the ground.
 
Same issues as always for the Kings, the team is not capable of winning when the top 6 slumps, and is almost unbeatable when the top 6 is playing well. The problem is, throughout an 82 game season guys like Kopitar, Carter, TT etc. are going to slump, it's just a given for basically every forward in this league who isn't a megastar.

Nick Shore- 4 goals in 91 career games.
Andy Andreoff - 4 goals in 50 games
Kyle Clifford - 1 goal in his last 55 games, $1.6m cap hit
Trevor Lewis - 2 goals in 28 games since the New Year
Dustin Brown - 77 points in 224 games since signing extension. 28 point avg. $5.8m cap hit
Jordan Nolan - 0 goals in past 54 games.

Look, I am not expecting 15-20 goals a season from any of these guys, but this is just beyond pathetic with all these guys. And when one line gets shut down or starts slumping (Carter line) we are forced to get all our production from one line, and no one can win like that in this league.

Lecavalier is the only player who has played mostly on the bottom six who has shown any kind of ability to generate offense, and even he has slowed down a bit.

And I understand the need for some kind of toughness, but the Kings are getting sub-Link Gaetz production from both Nolan and Clifford, and both guys should be capable of more.
 
CowMix said:
We've been hearing this for years.
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but we've lost

Mitchell
Voynov
Williams
Richards
Regehr
Stoll

since then

all those guys contributed at one point or another to our playoff successes

now we have...

Versteeg
Shore
Andreoff
LeCavalier
Schenn
McNabb

just isn't the same, can't expect the same playoff dominance with these guys

we'll be bumped in the first round max second round, but i doubt the Sharks will lose to us this time around

you guys pooped on me when i told you last year mid-season we weren't making the playoffs

this year, we'll make it, but we're not surpassing San Jose & Anaheim no way, register this comment and come back and haunt me with it all you want

but take it to the bank, we're not winning more than a round
 
Raccoon Jesus said:
I'm not even mad and I don't get all the doom and gloom.

We played the hottest team since ...November?...who is in the midst of a historic streak with everyone healthy and honestly we mostly outplayed them. I know the only metric that matters in the end is the scoreboard, but the goals for them were emblematic of what goes right when things are going well, and our inability to finish on a buttload of loose pucks is emblematic of what goes wrong when they aren't.

That was a great freaking hockey game between giants and it could have gone either way. That's all.

We are 20 points into a pacific playoff spot so I wouldn't expect much urgency from here on out, tbh.
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This.

We know how much Darryl values division titles, if they had gotten worked in this game it would be concerning, but they didn't. Just keep playing their game, both teams scoring will return to normal levels, and we'll see.
 
Kings lost significant defenders and have no way to replace, it's the truth Dean has to face as he goes forward.

2010 they drafted what was supposed to be a key piece, six years later can't crack the lineup over Rob Scuderi and Christian Ehrhoff

2011 pick traded away

2013 pick traded away

2015 pick traded away

2016 pick traded away, along with another defensive prospect

Again, no issue with trading picks for guys who helped the Kings win Stanley Cup's in Penner (2011 and Carter 2013), in hindsight the Sekera trade obviously should never have happened and DL was way to agressive a buyer with how many question marks last years roster had.

They also tried to address the issue with trading for McNabb but his development is stuck in neutral.

After hitting homeruns with Doughty, Voynov, Martinez and Muzzin (UFA) the Kings have basically been unable to draft and develop any d-man worth a damn. It probably wouldn't have mattered if Slava hadn't beaten up his wife, but that is still the reality of the situation.
 
Ziggy Stardust said:
And that was against the Lecavalier line, and they were on the ice way too long.
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Yep, especially Lewis. He was a hot mess the entire shift, starting from when he had an easy chance to clear it, then turned it over.Two minutes later, still out there running around, Kessler scores.
 
KingPuckChoo said:
but we've lost

Mitchell
Voynov
Williams
Richards
Regehr
Stoll

since then

all those guys contributed at one point or another to our playoff successes

now we have...

Versteeg
Shore
Andreoff
LeCavalier
Schenn
McNabb

just isn't the same, can't expect the same playoff dominance with these guys

we'll be bumped in the first round max second round, but i doubt the Sharks will lose to us this time around

you guys pooped on me when i told you last year mid-season we weren't making the playoffs

this year, we'll make it, but we're not surpassing San Jose & Anaheim no way, register this comment and come back and haunt me with it all you want

but take it to the bank, we're not winning more than a round
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It's not so much the thought, it's the attitude about wanting to be right about failure.

"Told you guys we suck" is a pretty miserable thing to hang your hat on.
 
Raccoon Jesus said:
It's not so much the thought, it's the attitude about wanting to be right about failure.

"Told you guys we suck" is a pretty miserable thing to hang your hat on.
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but it's ok to be realistic

the kings came out to play in every single Anaheim and San Jose game this year

and we came out short

there's nothing wrong about coming out of Plato's cave sometimes

how many times were you guys defending Quick on his 7 saves on 10 shots, everytime i was like are you kidding me? what kind of a drug you have to be on to not realize how terrible he was for a good portion of last year?

anyways when i see good i'm the first to comment on it

but to think for a second that a D that includes Scuderi, McNabb, Schenn, and McBain will produce a cup!? LOLZ!
 
Kings can still win a SC this year, can't ever count out a team with Doughty, Quick, Kopitar, Carter, Muzzin, Lucic. All are guys who have proven they elevate their games when the chips are down.
 
kingsfan28 said:
1-1-11 VS the Ducks over the last 13. That's pathetic!
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Right where we want them.

Herby said:
Kings can still win a SC this year, can't ever count out a team with Doughty, Quick, Kopitar, Carter, Muzzin, Lucic. All are guys who have proven they elevate their games when the chips are down.
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Just need a little bit from as many players as possible once the playoffs get going. In this seasonal marathon, the Kings are so far ahead, they can afford to conserve their energy for that last lap which is the playoffs. Let Anaheim sprint ahead I say.
 
kingsholygrail said:
Right where we want them.



Just need a little bit from as many players as possible once the playoffs get going. In this seasonal marathon, the Kings are so far ahead, they can afford to conserve their energy for that last lap which is the playoffs. Let Anaheim sprint ahead I say.
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They do have a habit of running out of gas in later rounds.:nod:
 
KingPuckChoo said:
but it's ok to be realistic

the kings came out to play in every single Anaheim and San Jose game this year

and we came out short

there's nothing wrong about coming out of Plato's cave sometimes

how many times were you guys defending Quick on his 7 saves on 10 shots, everytime i was like are you kidding me? what kind of a drug you have to be on to not realize how terrible he was for a good portion of last year?

anyways when i see good i'm the first to comment on it

but to think for a second that a D that includes Scuderi, McNabb, Schenn, and McBain will produce a cup!? LOLZ!
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I think it's okay to be realistic and there's a reasonable argument to be made that this team doesn't have 'it' over Anaheim. But to wave the white flag based on regular season games is lol in itself.

I prefer to realize anaheim isn't going to streak into the playoffs at over .900 and a 50% power play and that the way we played them today will win more games than not. I thought today was more encouraging than the game we beat them, actually.
 
kingsholygrail said:
Right where we want them.



Just need a little bit from as many players as possible once the playoffs get going. In this seasonal marathon, the Kings are so far ahead, they can afford to conserve their energy for that last lap which is the playoffs. Let Anaheim sprint ahead I say.
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Kings need to be as healthy as possible and absolutely have to be able to roll 3 capable lines like they did in 2014. 2012 with 4 lines rolling is a lot to ask, especially with how many ineffective guys we currently have.

Lucic- Kopitar- Gaborik
Pearson- Carter- Toffoli
King-Lecavalier- Brown/Versteeg

We are ok if we can stay healthy and roll those 9/10 forwards in any combination.
 
Raccoon Jesus said:
I think it's okay to be realistic and there's a reasonable argument to be made that this team doesn't have 'it' over Anaheim. But to wave the white flag based on regular season games is lol in itself.

I prefer to realize anaheim isn't going to streak into the playoffs at over .900 and a 50% power play and that the way we played them today will win more games than not. I thought today was more encouraging than the game we beat them, actually.
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Boudreau looked like the lost puppy again when we made it 3-2 and Getzlaf lost his **** at the ref while they were leading in the game. The Kings may or may not beat them again in the playoffs if they face each other, but these guaranteed predictions are just ridiculous. I'll take the guys who have gotten the job done over the ones that have done nothing but wet themselves when it mattered any day of the week and be proud, win or lose.
 
Herby said:
Kings need to be as healthy as possible and absolutely have to be able to roll 3 capable lines like they did in 2014. 2012 with 4 lines rolling is a lot to ask, especially with how many ineffective guys we currently have.

Lucic- Kopitar- Gaborik
Pearson- Carter- Toffoli
King-Lecavalier- Brown/Versteeg

We are ok if we can stay healthy and roll those 9/10 forwards in any combination.
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I agree. Of course I'm not welcoming a complete and total collapse down the stretch, but .500+ is fine with me.
 
Bandit said:
Boudreau looked like the lost puppy again when we made it 3-2 and Getzlaf lost his **** at the ref while they were leading in the game. The Kings may or may not beat them again in the playoffs if they face each other, but these guaranteed predictions are just ridiculous. I'll take the guys who have gotten the job done over the ones that have done nothing but wet themselves when it mattered any day of the week and be proud, win or lose.
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I thought so too, he did have a "uh, what should I do game 7 look" behind the bench. I still don't know what set him off, and was really surprised he didn't get two for mouthing off as long as he did.
 
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