Blue Jays Discussion: Alright, no more discontent. Just baseball | ST in Mtl: StL @ Tor | Mar 26/27 7pm ET/4pm PT

[Nineteen67]

Today is the last game in Dunedin. .We’ll see you next season boys- let’s hope the April vote passes and they stay in Pinellas county-enjoy the concrete and fake greenery.

 

[Vito_81]

Man Wilner is brutal at radio play by play.

I hope he’s not Jerry’s replacement.

 

[Vito_81]

To me with the exception of the infield this looks like they listed the guys who made the opening day roster and then the extras who wont.

Guys like Donaldson and Travis are missing likely to give them mores rest and we know the plan for Biagini to be in AAA so we know he isn't making the roster.

This is my guess based on this potentially meaningless organized list;

C: Martin
1B: Smoak
2B: Travis
SS: Diaz
3B: Donaldson
RF: Grichuk
CF: Pillar
LF: Granderson
DH: Morales

C: Maile
INF: Solarte
INF: Espinosa
OF: Pearce

Happ
Sanchez
Estrada
Stroman
Garcia

Osuna
Oh
Barnes
Axford
Clippard
Loup
Mayza

Notables left off are Tepera, Hernandez, and Gift if you think he was making it.

A shame that Henandez doesn’t crack the roster, but makes sense with Pearce and Grandy around.

Hernandez will be on the team for good come mid season due to someones injury or performance at some point. Really don’t expect much from Granderson and Pearce this season TBH.

Hopefully Pearce can prove me wrong.

 

[zeke]

So Pearce is a better hitter than Morales historically, recently, and is crushing Morales this spring.

there's no legitimate reason to not have Pearce DHing opening day, Imo.

 

[phillipmike]

Of course a small sample size but Morales has much better numbers against Severino than Pearce.

Luis Severino vs. Batters | Baseball-Reference.com

And Severino does worse vs LHB. Its worth a shot to try Morales on Opening Day imo.

 

[phillipmike]

Reds claim Justin Nicolino off waivers from the Marlins

 

[zeke]

Last 2yrs

Morales 85wrc+ vRHP, 155wrc+ vLHP
Pearce 109wrc+ vRHP, 133wrc+ vLHP

Pearce should play every day, at DH vRHP and LF vLHP.

Morales should only play at DH vLHP.

 

[Hoverhand]

If Morales is only good enough to DH against lefties then its getting harder and harder to justify his role on this team.

I mean, pinch hitting i guess.

 

[Suntouchable13]

If Morales is only good enough to DH against lefties then its getting harder and harder to justify his role on this team.

I mean, pinch hitting i guess.

They shouldn't play him every day. Rotate guys through the DH spot. Donaldson, Travis, Tulo when he comes back, Smoak, Grandy.

 

[zeke]

If Morales is only good enough to DH against lefties then its getting harder and harder to justify his role on this team.

I mean, pinch hitting i guess.

I mean, he was a negative value player last year for a reason. He hurts the team, he doesn't help him. Unless somehow he manages to rebound...or just go on a fluke hot streak or something.

 

[Nineteen67]

I mean, he was a negative value player last year for a reason. He hurts the team, he doesn't help him. Unless somehow he manages to rebound...or just go on a fluke hot streak or something.

I agree, it would be hard to put Smoak Morales and Martin in the 4,5,6 spots.

If this is the everyday lineup

Top 3 are pretty good
7 Granderson
4 Travis
5 Donaldson
Middle makes or breaks the WC
3Smoak
DH Morales/Pearce
2Martin
Bottom 3rd
9Grichuk
8Pillar
6Diaz

 

[dredeye]

Reds claim Justin Nicolino off waivers from the Marlins

Imagine how much everyone would Actually hate AA if Nicolino was the one of the lansing three he kept

 

[TF97]

With Nicolino being claimed by Cincinnati, every single member of that infamous Marlins trade has moved on from either the Marlins or Blue Jays.

 

[hockeywiz542]

 

[Walshy7]

is this something that may change the way MLB teams deal with prospects? on the radio they were talking like it could, teams will typically go to arb with prospects until a certain age right?

 

[Diamond Joe Quimby]

is this something that may change the way MLB teams deal with prospects? on the radio they were talking like it could, teams will typically go to arb with prospects until a certain age right?

Been happening now for several years. Jon Singleton is still getting paid because of it. The guys on the radio are likely just baiting. Its nothing really new.

All that said...if you're in a fantasy league, buy Scott Kingery shares. He's going to be fun.

 

[TheMadHatTrick]

I'm not really expecting much from the Jays this year. It seems like too much has to go right for us to make the playoffs. All I hope is that our prospects continue to develop and we get a good haul for our impending free agents at the trade deadline.

 

[BlueForever75]

I'm not really expecting much from the Jays this year. It seems like too much has to go right for us to make the playoffs. All I hope is that our prospects continue to develop and we get a good haul for our impending free agents at the trade deadline.

If your not expecting much from the Jays this season then you shouldn't be expecting too much from the Red Sox or Yankees either as they have just as many questions surrounding their lineup as the Jays do. The season is a long one, and for the first time in a long time the Jays seem to be covered depth wise better both positionally and in the rotation/bullpen. The Jays should be in the middle of the division race and wild card race all season.

 

[Walshy7]

Been happening now for several years. Jon Singleton is still getting paid because of it. The guys on the radio are likely just baiting. Its nothing really new.

All that said...if you're in a fantasy league, buy Scott Kingery shares. He's going to be fun.

ok I thought there would be precedent, they were making out this was unprecedented. thanks

 

[Diamond Joe Quimby]

I'm not really expecting much from the Jays this year. It seems like too much has to go right for us to make the playoffs. All I hope is that our prospects continue to develop and we get a good haul for our impending free agents at the trade deadline.

Well, pretty much everything went wrong last season. So I understand the assumption that the exact same disasters, regardless of their randomness or likelihood of occurrence, occurring once more.

If your not expecting much from the Jays this season then you shouldn't be expecting too much from the Red Sox or Yankees either as they have just as many questions surrounding their lineup as the Jays do. The season is a long one, and for the first time in a long time the Jays seem to be covered depth wise better both positionally and in the rotation/bullpen. The Jays should be in the middle of the division race and wild card race all season.

I admire your optimism, as it provides a nice extreme ying-yang effect to the pessimistic views of some others. That said, the Red Sox and Yankees require "less to go right", or at the very least have more margin for error\things going wrong, to the win the division if one is using 2017's results as a base measure.

 

[phillipmike]

Last 2yrs

Morales 85wrc+ vRHP, 155wrc+ vLHP
Pearce 109wrc+ vRHP, 133wrc+ vLHP

Pearce should play every day, at DH vRHP and LF vLHP.

Morales should only play at DH vLHP.

Got to look at it from the other side too;

2017:
Severino vs RHB - 83 tOPS+, .243 wOBA
Severino vs LHB - 120 tOPS+, .287 wOBA

Career:
Severino vs RHB - 93 tOPS+, .282 wOBA
Severino vs LHB - 107 tOPS+, .301 wOBA

Severino is a lot worse vs LHB than he is vs RHB. Just depends how you want to play it/qualify it considering that Pearce is better vs RHP than Morales so you cant go wrong either way. I would play Morales against Severino on opening day considering the success he has had against him - yeah small sample size.

Part of my reason too is that i prefer to give Morales a chance - trot him out there for the DH spot for the next 2 months and let him sink or swim. If he does good then he stays and if not then i have no problem releasing him so we can have more flexibility on the bench to go with the revolving door at DH with perhaps Pearce/Tulo/Martin/Travis/Donaldson. Might even get Hernandez a better look in June onward.

 

[phillipmike]

You are Atkins and Vladdy and Bo's agents come to you today saying they would sign $100M over 10 years - who's signing them?

 

[phillipmike]

Former Blue Jays infielder Munenori Kawasaki set to retire - Sportsnet.ca

 

[Diamond Joe Quimby]

You are Atkins and Vladdy and Bo's agents come to you today saying they would sign $100M over 10 years - who's signing them?

Structured as so:
$1.5M, $2.0M, $3.0M, $4.0M, $5.0M, $7.5M, $10M
TO: $20M, $22M, $25M

And its a done deal.

 

[TheMadHatTrick]

If your not expecting much from the Jays this season then you shouldn't be expecting too much from the Red Sox or Yankees either as they have just as many questions surrounding their lineup as the Jays do. The season is a long one, and for the first time in a long time the Jays seem to be covered depth wise better both positionally and in the rotation/bullpen. The Jays should be in the middle of the division race and wild card race all season.

If you think the Yankees and Red Sox have just as many questions as the Blue Jays I don't know what to tell you except I wish I had some prime real estate in the Florida everglades to sell.