Value of: All Things Elias Pettersson

[Tatanka]

I meant it upped the ante so much that Sabres would ask for Hughes to play with Dahlin

Thompson is young too, and worth a lot still

If the Canucks are willing to move EP Hughes isn’t going anywhere.

 

[Coffees]

If the Canucks are willing to move EP Hughes isn’t going anywhere.

Forget about Thompson to Canucks then, they aren’t selling low

 

[Tatanka]

Forget about Thompson to Canucks then, they aren’t selling low

Who isn’t? I lost track of your point(s)

 

[NeoCanuck]

How about from the Canes: Necas, Nikishin, and ‘24 1st?

Really depends on how much they believe in Nikishin, even though he's projecting into something special.

Would have to work out a Necas extension as well. Unfortunately he's primarily been playing wing now from a Canucks value POV.

Still think that Cozens, Savoie, unprotected 1st (if it was 2024 and lets say, 7th overall) is something that the Canucks would at least be tempted to look at.

Flip that 1st rounder for defensive help and see how much more you can build.

 

[bossram]

How about from the Canes: Necas, Nikishin, and ‘24 1st?

Jarvis instead of Necas. I would think about that.

Really depends on how much they believe in Nikishin, even though he's projecting into something special.

Would have to work out a Necas extension as well. Unfortunately he's primarily been playing wing now from a Canucks value POV.

Still think that Cozens, Savoie, unprotected 1st (if it was 2024 and lets say, 7th overall) is something that the Canucks would at least be tempted to look at.

Flip that 1st rounder for defensive help and see how much more you can build.

The unprotected 1st is honestly what's crucial out of that package.

 

[My Cozen Dylan]

The unprotected 1st is honestly what's crucial out of that package.

Assuming this trade would happen at the draft (or thereabouts) and it's not a lottery win, the Sabres would still be silly to not include it for an extended Pettersson.

 

[SillyRabbit]

Friedman says that teams around the league are inquiring about the Pettersson situation:

 

[Frankie Blueberries]

Some targets or bases for a return:

-McTavish or Carlsson + (Zellweger?)
-Any (or a combo) of Fantilli, Jiricek, Johnson
-Hischier + Nemec (Canucks likely add)
-Eriksson Ek +
-Suzuki + Reinbacher
-Cooley +
-1st overall (Celebrini)
-Cozens, Power, Savoie, 1st (2-3 of these)
-B. Tkachuk

Just spitballing and throwing some names out there

 

[Coffees]

Some targets or bases for a return:

-McTavish or Carlsson + (Zellweger?)
-Any (or a combo) of Fantilli, Jiricek, Johnson
-Hischier + Nemec (Canucks likely add)
-Eriksson Ek +
-Suzuki + Reinbacher
-Cooley +
-1st overall (Celebrini)
-Cozens, Power, Savoie, 1st (2-3 of these)
-B. Tkachuk

Just spitballing and throwing some names out there

I'd do Leo Carlsson, dudes the next Pettersson

 

[hamzarocks]

We'll see. Avs have done a good job of getting guys to take less than their value. Landy, Toews, Makar, Rants, Mack (at least the first time).

These guys like CO more than EP seems to like Vancouver, but he knows he's in a good place and Vancouver knows they can't lose him so they'll show him the money.

You guys got Mackinnon to take less than hes worth again at 12.6M

The Avs shouldnt trade Rantanen either for Pettersson

Rantanen is similar level player. Minimal difference just for position makes no sense

Adding Byram or Ritchie makes no sense to the trade thats way to much.

 

[LuLover96]

Buffalo fans, what about Cozens and Samuelsson as a base? I’m not totally in tune to Mattias’ value but I really like him as a player.

 

[lionsDen]

MacKinnon for Pettersson, Who says no?

Colorado, not trying to throw shade either. Mack is a one of a kinds

 

[The Merchant]

Would happily send Mikko+ for EP

 

[Coffees]

Would happily send Mikko+ for EP

RyJo on Petterssons wing might rejuvenate RyJo because of Petterssons playstyle

 

[The Merchant]

RyJo on Petterssons wing might rejuvenate RyJo because of Petterssons playstyle

Nothing is going to rejuvenate RyJo except for a change of scenery to a team that doesn't employ a system that requires you skate well and work hard. Two things he is chronically allergic to.

 

[Coffees]

Keller and Crouse

@SillyRabbit

Nothing is going to rejuvenate RyJo except for a change of scenery to a team that doesn't employ a system that requires you skate well and work hard. Two things he is chronically allergic to.

Lol fair enough. Nuke-Petey works

 

[SillyRabbit]

Keller and Crouse

I think I like this more than the Rantanen package.

The idea of Pettersson playing in Phoenix is kinda funny to me but maybe that's what he wants?

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

Some targets or bases for a return:

-McTavish or Carlsson + (Zellweger?)
-Any (or a combo) of Fantilli, Jiricek, Johnson
-Hischier + Nemec (Canucks likely add)
-Eriksson Ek +
-Suzuki + Reinbacher
-Cooley +
-1st overall (Celebrini)
-Cozens, Power, Savoie, 1st (2-3 of these)
-B. Tkachuk

Just spitballing and throwing some names out there

Good to see you're being realistic, once again in your expectations.............................................

I'd do Leo Carlsson, dudes the next Pettersson

Ducks wouldn't.

 

[Frankie Blueberries]

Good to see you're being realistic, once again in your expectations.............................................


Sharks wouldn't.

I figured you should aim high when trading away 100+ point franchise centres for players that you hope become nearly as good as him

Carlsson plays for the Ducks, not Sharks btw.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

I figured you should aim high when trading away 100+ point franchise centres for players that you hope become nearly as good as him

Carlsson plays for the Ducks, not Sharks btw.

As has been said, if we trade EP, we won't be happy with the return, we won't win the trade. Your not just aiming high, your being completely unrealistic, as has been said, blue chip prospects don't get traded.

Thanks, lol don't know how I got that wrong. Fixed

 

[TheDawnOfANewTage]

Some targets or bases for a return:

-McTavish or Carlsson + (Zellweger?)
-Any (or a combo) of Fantilli, Jiricek, Johnson
-Hischier + Nemec (Canucks likely add)
-Eriksson Ek +
-Suzuki + Reinbacher
-Cooley +
-1st overall (Celebrini)
-Cozens, Power, Savoie, 1st (2-3 of these)
-B. Tkachuk

Just spitballing and throwing some names out there

I’ll give you cozens, Savoie, and a 1st for a signed happy Pete.

Edit- saw the expected salary, jeezy Pete! Nvm, that’s a bit too rich.

 

[Bouboumaster]

If Petterson is not re-signing with Vancouver, I hope Montréal will give him a pitch

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

I've seen a lot of high expectations not met on this particular board over the years in similar situations. Columbus fans trying to justify Dach during the Jones sweepstakes really stands out. Sharks fans tried to wishcast Mercer into existence for Meier. The pre-trade Dubois to L.A. threads look pretty comical in hindsight (Byfield). Eichel didn't return an A prospect/young player. Glass wasn't made available for an extended Stone. Duchene and Karlsson ended up on teams without high level assets to begin with; the future 1st gone horribly wrong made those trades.

Players are assets. There is a meaningful difference between Pettersson as an RFA 1 year away from UFA and Pettersson mid-way through a long-term 2nd contract, had the Canucks been able and/or given the opportunity to pay him 3 years ago.

 

[Benstheman]

If Petterson is not re-signing with Vancouver, I hope Montréal will give him a pitch

Except for an offersheet, in which we would pay 4 X 1sts, i don't see the Habs interested.

Suzuki + Reinbacher is a no from habs POV. I know Pettersson is better offensively than Suzuki but you need to factor in salary.

Suzuki at 7,85M$ or Pettersson at 12-12,5M$?? That's not a slam dunk answer. Even if someone still might take Pettey at 12M$, the difference is not Reinbacher who might become our 1st D in the near future.

Anyway, habs are not interested in swapping but adding.

I'm all for making a pitch at Pettersson but what we have to offer is most probably way different than what Vancouver is looking for.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

I've seen a lot of high expectations not met on this particular board over the years in similar situations. Columbus fans trying to justify Dach during the Jones sweepstakes really stands out. Sharks fans tried to wishcast Mercer into existence for Meier. The pre-trade Dubois to L.A. threads look pretty comical in hindsight (Byfield). Eichel didn't return an A prospect/young player. Glass wasn't made available for an extended Stone. Duchene and Karlsson ended up on teams without high level assets to begin with; the future 1st gone horribly wrong made those trades.

Players are assets. There is a meaningful difference between Pettersson as an RFA 1 year away from UFA and Pettersson mid-way through a long-term 2nd contract, had the Canucks been able and/or given the opportunity to pay him 3 years ago.

If he is somehow traded this is basically how it will go.