All Purpose Trade/Roster Building Thread XIII - the 23 deadline approaches

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Why not both Larkin and Timo

Check out these potential numbers:

Player	2024-2025
Sebastian Aho	$10,500,000.00
Andrei Svechnikov	$7,750,000.00
Jesperi Kotkaniemi	$4,820,000.00
Jordon Staal	$4,500,000.00
Dillion Larkin	$9,000,000.00
Timo Miere	$9,000,000.00
Stefan, Noesen	$762,500.00
Paul Stastny
Jesper Fast
Jordan Martinook	$1,800,000.00
Ondrej Kase
Seth Jarvis	$3,500,000.00
Martin Necas	$7,000,000.00
Derek Stepan
/////////////////////	//////////////////////
Jacob Slavin	$5,300,000.00
Brady Skjei	$6,500,000.00
Brett Pesce	$6,500,000.00
Brent Burns	$5,280,000.00
Calvin Da Hann
Jalen Chatfield	$762,500.00
Dylan Coghlan
Frederik Andersen
Antti Raanta
Pyotr Kochetkov	$2,000,000.00
Bonus
Retained
Total	$84,975,000.00
Cap Limit	$87,500,000.00
Jake Gardiner
Max Pacioretty
Dead Cap Space
Bonus
Remaining Cap Space	$2,525,000.00

if we get that heavy on offensive players, Skjei and Pesce are gone

 

[Sigurd]

If we get Larkin, KK is gone. Which should be the case.

Especially if we somehow get Larkin AND Meier.

So, there's about $5 million that will be greatly needed with such a huge cap crunch, and particularly with so many extensions in 2024.

*Edit* If Larkin actually becomes available (doubtful), the Canes should prioritize him over Meier. I'd rather we go all in with a big package for Larkin; as much as I've been on the Meier hype train. Center depth is our biggest weakness.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

If we get Larkin, KK is gone. Which should be the case.

Especially if we somehow get Larkin AND Meier.

So, there's about $5 million that will be greatly needed with such a huge cap crunch, and particularly with so many extensions in 2024.

Larkin is about as likely as us trading for Karlsson. so its not. Detroit overpays to keep Larkin.

 

[Sigurd]

Larkin is about as likely as us trading for Karlsson. so its not. Detroit overpays to keep Larkin.

Yep, I've stated a few times before that I think it's unlikely Larkin is traded.

I think in the end Detroit will cave to give a more appealing contract to Larkin. I might be wrong, but he is too important to walk away from unless they want to rebuild. I doubt Detroit is offering him 7 million. It's probably 8 and he wants 9. Maybe there's sources that have hinted as much that I'm not aware of or that I forgot about (probably because I don't think we'll get him lol). If so, I'd think a 1 million dollar difference would have some sort of resolution for both sides to mutually agree.

 

[Deon Thompson]

Why not both Larkin and Timo

Check out these potential numbers:

Player	2024-2025
Jordon Staal	$4,500,000.00

It's spelled Jordan.

 

[mikeyfan]

You’re missing a 6th D, 2 Forwards and another G.

How do you propose they sign 4 players with $2.5M?

Aa couple of prospects brought up for minimum and if we can sign Aho for 9.5 and Jordan for 3.5 that saves another couple of million. The thing is it is doable.

The point is we have the finances to sign the big stars as The FO has stated we will be a cap ceiling team.

 

[Derailed75]

You’re missing a 6th D, 2 Forwards and another G.

How do you propose they sign 4 players with $2.5M?

Also Larkin is going nowhere. Hes from Michigan by all accounts loves it their has always played for a team based in Michigan and looks forward to taking his team from his youth to the Cup.

 

[mikeyfan]

It's spelled Jordan.

Thanks sorry for the spelling error.

 

[mikeyfan]

Also Larkin is going nowhere. Hes from Michigan by all accounts loves it their has always played for a team based in Michigan and looks forward to taking his team from his youth to the Cup.

I once heard a long time ago, that Wayne Gretzky would never be traded from Edmonton. Learned back then to never say never.

 

[WreckingCrew]

Also Larkin is going nowhere. Hes from Michigan by all accounts loves it their has always played for a team based in Michigan and looks forward to taking his team from his youth to the Cup.

* they're

 

[spockBokk]

Aa couple of prospects brought up for minimum and if we can sign Aho for 9.5 and Jordan for 3.5 that saves another couple of million. The thing is it is doable.

The point is we have the finances to sign the big stars as The FO has stated we will be a cap ceiling team.

NHL minimum salary is $750K.

$750K x 4 = $3M. 4 players on league minimum is $500K more than the space your theoretical has left. And that’s assuming they actually could competitively fill out the roster by signing 4 guys making league min.

You’re argument is out the window. They can’t afford that many high dollar salaries.

 

[Borsig]

Don throws a wrench into the whole league and uses our cap space to trade for Karlsson at the deadline.


Which of our members blows a blood vessel first?

It would be a photo finish

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

My personal guess is that the Canes will acquire a winger with term and a center rental. I'm not going to try to predict any names, but Toews and his league-leading FO Win% makes a ton of sense.

 

[Svechhammer]

lol at the guy trying to shit on Slavin.

Its impressive that people are so willingly to be publicly outed as a moron

 

[chaz4hockey]

You’re missing a 6th D, 2 Forwards and another G.

How do you propose they sign 4 players with $2.5M?

drop martinook (by '24-'25 he's probably past his sale date), lower Staal by $1M and now you have $5.3M. Will need to fill out roster with 2 low salary Fwds-$1.6M (hopefully AHL promotions) and use balance for the D and G.

 

[mikeyfan]

I have a question, can a team making a trade absorb another teams retained Salary? If so that would be the tie breaker in my opinion for Meire, Canes pick up the Retainage for Burns or at least a million of that retainage

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

I have a question, can a team making a trade absorb another teams retained Salary? If so that would be the tie breaker in my opinion for Meire, Canes pick up the Retainage for Burns or at least a million of that retainage

no

 

[mikeyfan]

no

OK what prohibits it? Do you know the rule? It's not that I don't believe you, I'd just like to read the limitations. Thanks

 

[Chan790]

Don throws a wrench into the whole league and uses our cap space to trade for Karlsson at the deadline.


Which of our members blows a blood vessel first?

Me? Though I think it would be funny AF if we acquired Karlsson and then very successfully iced him as a F because the numbers guys in the FO predicted he'd thrive there.

Then the rest of the NHL would be the ones blowing blood vessels.

 

[Chrispy]

OK what prohibits it? Do you know the rule? It's not that I don't believe you, I'd just like to read the limitations. Thanks

The CBA prevents it:

(iii) Prohibition on Transfers of Payroll Room. A Club may not sell, assign, trade, transfer or otherwise hypothecate its Payroll Room (including, without limitation, by trading a Cap Advantage Recapture charge or obligations pursuant to a Retained Salary Transaction), provided, however, that Clubs, in the context of Trades, may allocate between them the Averaged Amount and related Player Salary and Bonuses payable under the given SPC(s) associated with the Player(s) being Traded subject to the following limitations...

The full rule on retained salary in trades is in 50.5 (e) (iii)

 

[Svechhammer]

Here ya go

Me: what is the most complicated trade you can suggest the Carolina Hurricanes execute to improve their chances of winning the Stanley Cup



ChatGPT: A potential complicated trade for the Carolina Hurricanes to improve their chances of winning the Stanley Cup could involve multiple players and draft picks being traded between multiple teams. Here's an example:
Carolina Hurricanes trade:

• Forward Andrei Svechnikov
• Defenseman Jaccob Slavin
• 2023 1st round pick
• 2024 2nd round pick

Team 1 trade:

• Forward Mark Stone
• Defenseman Victor Hedman
• 2023 2nd round pick
• 2024 1st round pick

Team 2 trade:

• Forward Auston Matthews
• Defenseman Cale Makar
• 2023 3rd round pick

This trade would see the Hurricanes acquire two elite forwards in Matthews and Stone, as well as two top defensemen in Makar and Hedman. The team would give up some of its best young talent in Svechnikov and Slavin, as well as draft picks, but the immediate upgrade to the roster would give them a better chance of winning the Stanley Cup. This trade would likely require negotiations between multiple teams and intricate salary cap management, making it a complex trade for the Hurricanes to execute.

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

Blues fans think they can get Morrow or Nikishin plus a 1st/2nd from us for ROR lol. Good luck with that, prepare to be disappointed fellas

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Blues fans think they can get Morrow or Nikishin plus a 1st/2nd from us for ROR lol. Good luck with that, prepare to be disappointed fellas

sadly that has been their message for a while. Add in they think they are getting 2 2nds or a 1st for 24 point barbashev too.

 

[Tryamw]

Blues fans think they can get Morrow or Nikishin plus a 1st/2nd from us for ROR lol. Good luck with that, prepare to be disappointed fellas

I still want a 1 million dollars an hour job

 

[chaz4hockey]

Here ya go

Me: what is the most complicated trade you can suggest the Carolina Hurricanes execute to improve their chances of winning the Stanley Cup



ChatGPT: A potential complicated trade for the Carolina Hurricanes to improve their chances of winning the Stanley Cup could involve multiple players and draft picks being traded between multiple teams. Here's an example:
Carolina Hurricanes trade:

• Forward Andrei Svechnikov
• Defenseman Jaccob Slavin
• 2023 1st round pick
• 2024 2nd round pick

Team 1 trade:

• Forward Mark Stone
• Defenseman Victor Hedman
• 2023 2nd round pick
• 2024 1st round pick

Team 2 trade:

• Forward Auston Matthews
• Defenseman Cale Makar
• 2023 3rd round pick

This trade would see the Hurricanes acquire two elite forwards in Matthews and Stone, as well as two top defensemen in Makar and Hedman. The team would give up some of its best young talent in Svechnikov and Slavin, as well as draft picks, but the immediate upgrade to the roster would give them a better chance of winning the Stanley Cup. This trade would likely require negotiations between multiple teams and intricate salary cap management, making it a complex trade for the Hurricanes to execute.

1975 trade of Espo-Vadnais for Ratelle-Park is the only mega trade of superstars I can remember that would rival the ones theorized by your ChatGPT post.