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All purpose trade/roster building thread part 12
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You're right that they wouldn't have picked up CdH if they extended Hanifin. He was a significant add for the team last year. So my point about the roster improvement not being a function of the CGY trade has a crack in the foundation.
Is STL actually trying to move Faulk already? I've not heard that. He had a tough start to the year, but I think he's settling in fine now. From what I've seen in the playoffs he's been good. If the Canes didn't trade for Dougie, I would bet they'd have extended Faulk...but that's building speculation on top of a hypothetical.
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As much I like Lindholm, he's ''80 pts player'' in a same way that Cheechoo is "50 goal scorer". I guess Trocheck is also 75 pts player because he has one season with more than 54 pts.
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fleury isn't a top 4 defense. i feel like that shouldn't have to be said at this point. he's developing and he had a good playoffs, but let's pump the brakes a little on the coronation. what i will say is that fleury bumped his needle from tweener to full time nhl defenseman and that's accomplishment enough considering how long that took.
edmunndson is very likely gone, which sucks but for a surly option he wasn't quite the guy i'd imagined there. he's there in case there's something that needs handled, but he neither enjoys that or is much good at it. they would have called him fake tough fifteen years ago. it seems likely to me the brady skjei move was a dual purpose rental/replacement for him. he's exactly the type of guy that somebody is going to give stupid money. he checks all the boxes that usually end up torching teams financially. plus, can't you just kind of feel it sometimes when a new guy comes in and he's all business? this year was about doing nothing to hurt his stock from where it was at the end of last season and he did his job and did it well, but now he's cashing out. he just hasn't really felt all that immersed with a team that is about as tight as they come. this year's ferland, but it feels in poor taste to even talk about that one.
speaking of ferland, watching martinook with aho and turbo reminded me what made that line go so hard with ferland on it. those two get so much room to operate when there's a middle lane drive that can get inside and underneath defenders and will take the punishment to stay in front to box out and be a pain in the ass. it's an absolute dream that will never happen, but if you could put a guy like kreider out there with those two it would be hellish. those guys require so much attention that they bring the defense back to the crease and it opens up those cross ice passes at the top of the dots that those two love. if it were my decision, i would explore allowing necas and svechnikov to continue to develop chemistry and try to get a true veteran right shooting net front that even if over the hill could give you that.
edmunndson is very likely gone, which sucks but for a surly option he wasn't quite the guy i'd imagined there. he's there in case there's something that needs handled, but he neither enjoys that or is much good at it. they would have called him fake tough fifteen years ago. it seems likely to me the brady skjei move was a dual purpose rental/replacement for him. he's exactly the type of guy that somebody is going to give stupid money. he checks all the boxes that usually end up torching teams financially. plus, can't you just kind of feel it sometimes when a new guy comes in and he's all business? this year was about doing nothing to hurt his stock from where it was at the end of last season and he did his job and did it well, but now he's cashing out. he just hasn't really felt all that immersed with a team that is about as tight as they come. this year's ferland, but it feels in poor taste to even talk about that one.
speaking of ferland, watching martinook with aho and turbo reminded me what made that line go so hard with ferland on it. those two get so much room to operate when there's a middle lane drive that can get inside and underneath defenders and will take the punishment to stay in front to box out and be a pain in the ass. it's an absolute dream that will never happen, but if you could put a guy like kreider out there with those two it would be hellish. those guys require so much attention that they bring the defense back to the crease and it opens up those cross ice passes at the top of the dots that those two love. if it were my decision, i would explore allowing necas and svechnikov to continue to develop chemistry and try to get a true veteran right shooting net front that even if over the hill could give you that.
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Armies have been mobilized for less.
Boom Boom Apathy
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I meant STL fans want to get rid of him. I don’t think the team does, although it will be interesting to see if they protect him in the expansion draft. I haven’t watched enough of him, just that their fans don’t seem to be happy with, which admittedly isn’t always a good barometer.
I have no way of knowing, but it seemed to me that they acquired Faulk as an insurance in case Pietrangelo left.
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Palmeiri is the option for Aho and Turbo
The Rangers have regretted the Kreider deal the moment the ink was dry. Even more so that they got 1OA. Say no to Kreider
The Rangers have regretted the Kreider deal the moment the ink was dry. Even more so that they got 1OA. Say no to Kreider
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If Svech, Necas, and Foegele all earned their performance bonuses then we are looking are at a maximum of 2,730,250 in performance bonus overages for next year.
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Oh yea, I forgot about the new contract, my bad. 100% agreed on that new contract woof
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A friend of mine asked if I would do this trade: Brendan Smith and Canes 1st (~#24) for Jake Gardiner and NYRs 2nd (~#42)?
Smith with one year left at a cap hit at $4.350.000, even tho his salary is only $3.350.000.
Gardiner with 3 years left at $4.050.000.
I would probably jump at the trade, even tho Smith is pretty bad. Would be a 6/7 for a year.
Smith with one year left at a cap hit at $4.350.000, even tho his salary is only $3.350.000.
Gardiner with 3 years left at $4.050.000.
I would probably jump at the trade, even tho Smith is pretty bad. Would be a 6/7 for a year.
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I would say yes. Although Gardiner was playing better in February, for me the key is that Bean needs to play in the NHL. In fact, if the organization can't re-sign Hamilton, Bean is the heir for PP1. If the Canes do re-sign Hamilton, there is too much money tied up in the D long-term. For one year Smith can be an expensive 7th D.
Randy Butternubs
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Hello again strangers. It looks like some of you would be up to trade Nino. What would you be looking for in a trade for him? This is coming from a Pens fan.
Thanks again!
Thanks again!
cptjeff
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Rangers already have the Canes 1st, our only 1st is the Leafs #13. Which I'm not giving up. If we did still have both 1sts I would do that. Gardiner has at least been half a Darling in terms of how much that signing has flopped. Smith cannot be any worse.
cptjeff
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Clearing that cap room would be nice, so futures would be ideal. From the Pens side, I'm sure we'd need to take some money back, though.
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They're talking about giving us our 1st back for taking Smith and giving them Gardiner and our 2nd. I'd do that in a heartbeat. Not sure the Rags would though.
Yeah we would have to take back a bad contract from them which probably wouldn't make it worth it especially when Crosby or Malkin can turn Nino back into a 40-50 point player solely by bouncing pucks in off of him while he stands near the net.
Randy Butternubs
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Pens could [hypothetically] clear cap in a separate trade, but I'd certainly be interested in Nino for futures.
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Bjugstad would be okay here. A healthy Bjugstad would be pretty good next to Staal.
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A three-way trade with the Wild for Victor Rask.
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Not really. You can put some of the most offensively talented wingers in the game with Staal and he's just going to drag them down because he literally has no offensive skills left at this point. He's still an absolute beast of a checking line center but I wouldn't say any winger is going to look "good" next to Staal unless you mean defensively, and AFAIK Bjugstad is not known for his defensive game.
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