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Gabe Kupari
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Unless the fountain of youth is located in Pittsburgh, pens are in trouble
BobTheSolarsystem
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BobTheSolarsystem
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He MUST have a GF that is like 'I want to move to Arizona and that's final' because that's a terrible contract for a UFA RHD
He hasn't been very good for a couple years now. My guess is there wasn't much of a market for him.
Dumba will be moved at the tdl. Arizona basically buying a pick /prospect
gee you don't say?
i think petersson+ek together should be a good pairing as pettersson seems to rate pretty well in the defensive end. i still dont love or trust their goaltending in jarry..... however outside of the big-5 goalies (helle, vas, sorokin, saros and shesterkin) i dont trust the consistency of most goalies. sooooo
tbcwpg
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gee you don't say?
i think petersson+ek together should be a good pairing as pettersson seems to rate pretty well in the defensive end. i still dont love or trust their goaltending in jarry..... however outside of the big-5 goalies (helle, vas, sorokin, saros and shesterkin) i dont trust the consistency of most goalies. sooooo
Lots of people judging this by Pittsburgh getting older. Who cares, they are trying to win with Crosby, Malkin etc. Their goals aren't to "shorten a rebuild" or whatever nonsense people suggest to artificially shorten a window of playoff appearances.
Yeah ... the Pens are going to be garbage for a long time once Sid and Geno are done anyway. This trade doesn't make the future any more bleak than it already is but it does make the near-future better in that they should be a much stronger team for the next few years as Sid and Geno prepare to ride off into the sunset.
EK65 is very overrated, of course, but he'll be a big help still.
ppl just care about being #1 on the prospect pool rankings more than actually winning.
We don't need to sand and salt the roads. We just need to buy the right vehicles and tires for winter.The real reason why these players don't want to play here
Maybe they should learn how to enjoy winter
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Dubas got a 7 year contract so he’s around for this Crosby Gino fairwell tour then depending on how long they invest in this phase he’ll have 3 or 4 seasons to get the full rebuild started.
IMO Pittsburgh is not a cup contender anymore but Sid and Gino are finishing off the second of two great era’s in Pens history so why not play it out. Reminds me of how they tried to hang in with Kane and Toews in Chicago. Also reminds me of how they are letting Ovi chase Gretz’s goal scoring record in Washigton even though they are done as far as cups go.
With the above mentioned they all are/were the stars in their teams greatest era’s so give them those last few seasons before they blow it up because they all earned it.
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If EK slides back to the player he was for 2-3 years prior to last year they would have been better off with Petry scoring less but playing D.
They will miss those draft picks pretty quickly once Sid, Geno and Letang age out - which could be any minute now. Those 3 plus EK will probably all be at least a little less than they were last year. Karlsson isn't going to suddenly turn them back into a contender. With their goaltending, they could easily miss the PO again.
tbcwpg
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Who cares about draft picks that might play years down the line when you have 3 HoF caliber players you're trying to maximize your chance of winning with before they retire. I would hope the maximize asset crowd would never be the GM of a team with a true superstar on it.
teams like PIT can trade and sign players pretty freely too. they're not just gonna sit around do nothing b/c they're missing some overvalued draft pick.
not saying they'll ever replace sid or geno, however a mid to late 1st sure ain't either.
there's nothing more overrated or overhyped on this forum than what the average mid-to-late 1st has produced in the NHL.
This is what you do when you have 2 guaranteed HOF on the team, one being a generational superstar and they have won you 3 cups. You ride them into the sunset and throw everything you can at finding a way to let them compete for a 4th. When all is said and done, you retire a few jerseys parade the boys around for a couple victory laps and you start from scratch with a big smile on your face. The last thing you do is pull the rug out from under them in the last couple years of their career.
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I hear Detroit was voted worst place to live in the US, funny some players can’t wait to sign there. Makes no sense, I’d live in Winnipeg over Detroit any day of the week, and yes I’ve been there.
While I respect the move to go for a Cup, Karlsson does seem like an odd choice for an “all-in” move
He is the current Norris winner and really the only all in type of player available at the moment where teams were willing to take what the Pens had in trade capital.
Yeah and they gave up what....A mid-to-late 1st for him and couple basically replacement level players in Granlund and Ruta?
If that's consisted all-in I'd hate to see some of your guy's bank accounts
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None of that makes getting Karlsson a good move at this point. It could work out. But last year could also have been a last gasp from him. It was his first good year after several poor ones. What are the odds of him repeating that at age 33?
If he does have another great year, do the Pens have enough to contend? The G they gave up may have been their best one. Is the G they have left good enough? They got EK's offense. They also got his defense and gave up Petry's defense to get it. By the time you add up the pluses and minuses how much better are they, if any? Depends on Karlsson having another season like last season.
He really shouldn’t have been the Norris winner. For a good stretch last year, everyone on that team was strictly playing to get him to 100 points last season but maybe he’ll start trying in his own end this season now that he’s on a team with a chance.
He’s on a scary contract but I keep forgetting the Pens cleared out a bunch of junky contracts anyway.
tbcwpg
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Again, who really cares about his deal. They've got 2 or 3 years max with that trio.
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You’d think Dubas would have learned from past experiences and prioritized getting a better #1 net minder to really push the Penguins over the wildcard contention line while he still has Sid and Geno.
That’s okay by me. I enjoy watching the boy wonder melt down when his team collapse during the playoffs!
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