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Rumor: All Purpose Trade Proposals, Speculation and Rumours - 2023/24

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KingBogo said:
IMO the idea is not have a contract come due that is virtually the same as UFA status, except with some leverage of getting a return for the last season of control if you have to move a player. With 1 year left a player has arbitration and is 1 and done unless you trade them. 2 years or long term is better for the organization.
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When do the Jets ever trade someone of value with two years of control? Jets always squeeze the juice out of players and then discard them for assets with one or less than one year (TDL) of control.
 
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Potrzebie said:
Oh I'm not comparing them in the least. I just don't think it's unusual for a coach to try and load up a line with his best offensive players when they are desperate for offense, as the Jets were when Bowness tried that and had nothing to do with "sending a message".

Edit: "He lines up at wing, but on the right side he'll still be taking some face-offs. Mark is a smart player," Bowness said of the ice-cold Scheifele. "We need to score some goals. So I talked to the three of them this morning and said let's give this a try, and they're all gung-ho for it. So let's see what it looks like."
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Ok I'm finally willing to admit I'm wrong.
It's a new record for me to do so in under 5 days.
 
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Guffman said:
When do the Jets ever trade someone of value with two years of control? Jets always squeeze the juice out of players and then discard them for assets with one or less than one year (TDL) of control.
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There is a big difference from squeezing the juice out of a 30 or 31 year old player and moving them for residual value compared to having to do it with 25 and 26 year olds just hitting their prime. You might need to do it if a player wants out but it can’t be your development model if you ever want to contend.
 
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KingBogo said:
There is a big difference from squeezing the juice out of a 30 or 31 year old player and moving them for residual value compared to having to do it with 25 and 26 year olds just hitting their prime. You might need to do it if a player wants out but it can’t be your development model if you ever want to contend.
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Yup, they've only ever done that model with players who wanted out like Trouba/Laine.

They've tried to get term and have got it on all the other impact young players.
 
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KingBogo said:
There is a big difference from squeezing the juice out of a 30 or 31 year old player and moving them for residual value compared to having to do it with 25 and 26 year olds just hitting their prime. You might need to do it if a player wants out but it can’t be your development model if you ever want to contend.
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If the Jets bridge, it’s probably a 2-year gig and if they can’t get a long-term deal, they do a further 1-year contract and then trade the player with 1 year of control (or less).

At no point do the Jets trade good pieces with multiple years of control.

I will reverse course and say that if you bridge, a shorter term deal (not a three year deal) does make more sense.
 
surixon said:
Yup, they've only ever done that model with players who wanted out like Trouba/Laine.

They've tried to get term and have got it on all the other impact young players.
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Good morning, surixon.

Just wanted to wish you a happy 20th anniversary here on HFBoards. I’m sure others will join me in extending their gratitude for all the contributions you make to our board.

Enjoy your day.

Warm regards,
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So what do people think of an offer sheet for Bouchard?

He's a young RS dmen that would fill a big hole on this team. My thinking is we have a strong enough forward prospect pool that we can afford to part with the future draft capital.

We could do 2 years at an aav of 6.35 million for a 1st and 3rd.
 
surixon said:
So what do people think of an offer sheet for Bouchard?

He's a young RS dmen that would fill a big hole on this team. My thinking is we have a strong enough forward prospect pool that we can afford to part with the future draft capital.

We could do 2 years at an aav of 6.35 million for a 1st and 3rd.
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Edmonton would def match, no?
 
surixon said:
So what do people think of an offer sheet for Bouchard?

He's a young RS dmen that would fill a big hole on this team. My thinking is we have a strong enough forward prospect pool that we can afford to part with the future draft capital.

We could do 2 years at an aav of 6.35 million for a 1st and 3rd.
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Personally I wouldn't spend either the trade pieces, draft capital, or cap space on Bouchard. He's a RHD with some size and skating, and put up good points, but I've not found his defensive play to be very good, and I think we have enough of those types. Unless someone wants to do a deeper dive into his analytics.
And then we'd also have to most likely make other moves as we already need to move a D or 2 to make room for Chisolm and Heinola. Not sure if I want to pay to have to move Schmidt or Pionk.
 
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Atoyot said:
Wouldn't get to that point. Why would Bouchard sign the offer sheet in the first place?
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Leverage? Money?

If the Jets offered him a contract he couldn't get from the Oilers - it's a pretty good bet that signing the offer sheet would end up with the Oilers matching.
 
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Jet said:
Leverage? Money?

If the Jets offered him a contract he couldn't get from the Oilers - it's a pretty good bet that signing the offer sheet would end up with the Oilers matching.
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I'm sure another non competitive team would offer a contract as well while providing the wonderful perk of not having to play in Winnipeg. It doesn't give any leverage, it solidifies the contract he gets.

His agent can talk to teams. If this agent goes up to him and says "hey we have an offer from Winnipeg that would get you more money than Edmonton can offer" he'll say to ask around to see what other teams will offer. In reality though he'll probably be fine taking a little less money to be fed by McDavid for the next few years. It'll maximize his earnings in the long run.
 
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Atoyot said:
I'm sure another non competitive team would offer a contract as well while providing the wonderful perk of not having to play in Winnipeg. It doesn't give any leverage, it solidifies the contract he gets.

His agent can talk to teams. If this agent goes up to him and says "hey we have an offer from Winnipeg that would get you more money than Edmonton can offer" he'll say to ask around to see what other teams will offer. In reality though he'll probably be fine taking a little less money to be fed by McDavid for the next few years. It'll maximize his earnings in the long run.
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Don’t forget only three more seasons until McDavid signs here as a UFA anyway so it wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world for Bouchard to come here now.
 
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