Rumor: All Purpose Trade Proposals, Speculation and Rumours - 2023/24

[10Ducky10]

I pretty much agree with you. The only thing that's making me second guess going longterm is the injury concerns.

Same.
Maybe a 1 x 3m deal and sign him long-term after that deal is finished?

8 x 6.5m?

 

[Flair Hay]

Lots of praise for Chisholm's game and rightfully so. I definitely thought he had a more pro style game than Heinola.

It's a philosophy on how the team wants to build the defense. I don't see how replacing Dillon with Chisholm helps the team get better.

Ditching Pionk or Schmidt and replacing with Heinola and Chisholm? Yeah I get it and I agree. But I've seen no indication Pionk or Schmidt are being shopped. Philly tried to get a 1st for taking Nate on - and that's all I've heard.

Same.
Maybe a 1 x 3m deal and sign him long-term after that deal is finished?

8 x 6.5m?

The way I see it, if we had any reservations about Vilardi, why would we be making him the key piece of the return?

Lock the dude up (likely under 5 mil) long term and reap the rewards

 

[10Ducky10]

Lots of praise for Chisholm's game and rightfully so. I definitely thought he had a more pro style game than Heinola.

It's a philosophy on how the team wants to build the defense. I don't see how replacing Dillon with Chisholm helps the team get better.

Ditching Pionk or Schmidt and replacing with Heinola and Chisholm? Yeah I get it and I agree. But I've seen no indication Pionk or Schmidt are being shopped. Philly tried to get a 1st for taking Nate on - and that's all I've heard.


The way I see it, if we had any reservations about Vilardi, why would we be making him the key piece of the return?

Lock the dude up (likely under 5 mil) long term and reap the rewards

I doubt he does that.

 

[Flair Hay]

I doubt he does that.

What do you think the price would be?

 

[BobTheSolarsystem]

Lots of praise for Chisholm's game and rightfully so. I definitely thought he had a more pro style game than Heinola.

It's a philosophy on how the team wants to build the defense. I don't see how replacing Dillon with Chisholm helps the team get better.

Ditching Pionk or Schmidt and replacing with Heinola and Chisholm? Yeah I get it and I agree. But I've seen no indication Pionk or Schmidt are being shopped. Philly tried to get a 1st for taking Nate on - and that's all I've heard.


The way I see it, if we had any reservations about Vilardi, why would we be making him the key piece of the return?

Lock the dude up (likely under 5 mil) long term and reap the rewards

When a guy says he's excited to play in Canada - overpay him immediately.

What do you think the price would be?

Im scared that Chevy is offering a bump to 1.4m for two years... enough to take it to arbitration

 

[Maukkis]

Lots of praise for Chisholm's game and rightfully so. I definitely thought he had a more pro style game than Heinola.

It's a philosophy on how the team wants to build the defense. I don't see how replacing Dillon with Chisholm helps the team get better.

Ditching Pionk or Schmidt and replacing with Heinola and Chisholm? Yeah I get it and I agree. But I've seen no indication Pionk or Schmidt are being shopped. Philly tried to get a 1st for taking Nate on - and that's all I've heard.


The way I see it, if we had any reservations about Vilardi, why would we be making him the key piece of the return?

Lock the dude up (likely under 5 mil) long term and reap the rewards

Because keeping Dillon and losing Chisholm to waivers only to lose Dillon to UFA a year later takes the team backwards. We need to make those changes now when we have potential replacements in the pipeline. There is a realistic scenario where all of Heinola, Dillon, Chisholm and Stanley are lost for (next to) nothing in the next 24 months - then we're replacing both the NHLers and the prospects from scratch.

 

[Flair Hay]

Chisholm is basically competing with Capobianco and Stanley the way Kovacevic was last year. If he can win that camp battle, we won't have to lose him to waivers. If the coaches still don't like him more than those two? You probably just hope he doesn't get claimed I guess.

Losing Kovacevic was shitty for sure. But it really falls on Bowness at that point to pick the right 7 guys.

 

[Nickel eye Heel hers]

Chisholm is basically competing with Capobianco and Stanley the way Kovacevic was last year. If he can win that camp battle, we won't have to lose him to waivers. If the coaches still don't like him more than those two? You probably just hope he doesn't get claimed I guess.

Losing Kovacevic was shitty for sure. But it really falls on Bowness at that point to pick the right

My thought process was geared towards old veterans getting chances over prospects so I deleted the comment.

 

[BobTheSolarsystem]

Chisholm is basically competing with Capobianco and Stanley the way Kovacevic was last year. If he can win that camp battle, we won't have to lose him to waivers. If the coaches still don't like him more than those two? You probably just hope he doesn't get claimed I guess.

Losing Kovacevic was shitty for sure. But it really falls on Bowness at that point to pick the right 7 guys.

Jets have to move on from Stan...

 

[Stumbledore]

(Also, I don't care if anyone thinks that Kova and Gawa weren't good enough. The point is, we don't f***ing know, we never got to see them in action.)

I saw them in action several times playing major minutes with the Moose and neither of them impressed me but, as you say, you don't care.

 

[Flair Hay]

Vanecek, Holtz and Marino is better. We might then get a 25 2nd for Plonk from somebody. OK, maybe 3rd is more realistic, after we retain salary. Jersey has Nemec to fit in on the right side.

Marino really does seem like a great player to target. No NTC yet, young but proven... seems like another DeMelo basically.

But we have Pionk and Schmidt we are most likely stuck with, and DeMelo that is ahead of both.

If we could deal any of our RD that would immediately make so much more sense.

And if I'm NJ... if you have a guy like this to insulate Nemec and possibly even partner with Hughes as he gains experience? That's not a guy I'd be looking to give up. I can see Vanecek + Marino and something smaller but not Holtz being doable.

If we clear our log jam first. And that log jam has been here for more than a calendar year now

 

[10Ducky10]

What do you think the price would be?

If he played well for a year I would offer him 8 x 6.5m. Something like that. If it were a 6 year deal, which might be the ideal term for Vilardi, I'd offer him a 6 x 7.25. He has to prove himself next season though. I doubt Chevy does that. I expect a 2 year bridge.
I have high expectations for Vilardi.

 

[ManByng]

Sell Scheifele and Hellebuyck for pennies on the dollar now or have them for at least until the trade deadline and sell them at a premium? Sounds like an easy answer to me.

Keep in mind what Buffalo did, completely changed the makeup of their team and now are on the verge of being a playoff team again after missing out on them for a ghastly **12 seasons** !!! Jets won the Dubois trade so that's a positive start !!

 

[Whileee]

I can see why everyone wants to dump Scheifele for his defensive limitations. Here's his adjusted 5v5 shot metrics and player card... (Oh, wait, that's budding superstar Tage Thompson)...

Subtext... Jets aren't going to easily replace Scheifele's consistent, top-end scoring and overall contribution.

Scheifele's career, based on xGAR...

 

[Flair Hay]

If he played well for a year I would offer him 8 x 6.5m. Something like that. If it were a 6 year deal, which might be the ideal term for Vilardi, I'd offer him a 6 x 7.25. He has to prove himself next season though. I doubt Chevy does that. I expect a 2 year bridge.
I have high expectations for Vilardi.

What would you offer him if you were like me and trying to get him to sign on the dotted line today?

 

[10Ducky10]

6 x 5m maybe? He probably doen's do that.
That is only buying one year of UFA though.
I think a two year bridge is the way to go. You still have two more years before UFA after that deal.
If you are happy with him after that deal, offer him a 6 year deal which buys 4 years of UFA and takes him until about 32?

He's made about 3.5m already and if he makes another 6.5m for the next two years, that will be about 10m.
6 x 7.25 would put him at around 52m give or take. Pretty not too bad and he probably plays a bit longer.

 

[FlameChampion]

Can I ask a question Jets fans. I don’t follow your media and I haven’t heard much about Schiefele. I assume hes on the trade block? If so, does he have more trade value than PLD did? I would assume he does but surprised I haven’t heard much about rumours?

 

[Atoyot]

Can I ask a question Jets fans. I don’t follow your media and I haven’t heard much about Schiefele. I assume hes on the trade block? If so, does he have more trade value than PLD did? I would assume he does but surprised I haven’t heard much about rumours?

He doesn't unless he's traded with a reasonable extension.

 

[Nickel eye Heel hers]

Can I ask a question Jets fans. I don’t follow your media and I haven’t heard much about Schiefele. I assume hes on the trade block? If so, does he have more trade value than PLD did? I would assume he does but surprised I haven’t heard much about rumours?

It sounds like Chevy (GM) has listened to offers but nothing of value or something would have happened by now. I believe Scheifele has more value than Dubois but has hurt his trade value with his production the last half of the season. He was switched to wing to give a wake up call and seemed to have ignored it. It will be interesting to see how the rest of the off season unfolds.

 

[Gabe Kupari]

Keep in mind what Buffalo did, completely changed the makeup of their team and now are on the verge of being a playoff team again after missing out on them for a ghastly **12 seasons** !!! Jets won the Dubois trade so that's a positive start !!

Who are they beating out in the East? Cuz for how great the buffalo's Ottawa Detroit supposed to be, which team or teams who made it last year don't this year.

 

[Gabe Kupari]

WHy is everyone trading helle for another goalie All the time. I'll say right now, I don't think he's dealt for another goalie in the package unless u do Edmonton for Holloway or Bourgoult or a RHD prospect and 1stt plus Campbell and run Campbell bro

 

[FlameChampion]

It sounds like Chevy (GM) has listened to offers but nothing of value or something would have happened by now. I believe Scheifele has more value than Dubois but has hurt his trade value with his production the last half of the season. He was switched to wing to give a wake up call and seemed to have ignored it. It will be interesting to see how the rest of the off season unfolds.

Its interesting how other GM’s assess value. Figured Teams would be lined up for C who scored 40+ goals last year. I didn’t realize that Schiefele played some W last year. He’s always seemed like a better player than PLD to me but I don’t watch him as much as you guys obviously.

 

[gojetsgo]

Its interesting how other GM’s assess value. Figured Teams would be lined up for C who scored 40+ goals last year. I didn’t realize that Schiefele played some W last year. He’s always seemed like a better player than PLD to me but I don’t watch him as much as you guys obviously.

he mostly played center, when he was on a line with pld they would switch off at center depending on who took the draw

 

[KingBogo]

Its interesting how other GM’s assess value. Figured Teams would be lined up for C who scored 40+ goals last year. I didn’t realize that Schiefele played some W last year. He’s always seemed like a better player than PLD to me but I don’t watch him as much as you guys obviously.

Scheifele is not a winger. He maybe played a game there when Bones was trying to shake up the team. He is a true #1 center though he is offence first type of player. He is still the Jets best overall offensive player at age 30. He is a point per game guy but he is on the wrong side of 30.

 

[Gabe Kupari]

I'll be honest I think Scheifele signs a new deal and we trade Helle Dillon Stanley Harkins before camp