Rumor: All Purpose Trade Proposals, Speculation and Rumours - 2023/24

[WolfHouse]

I'd like to see what Snerg on the 2nd pairing with a competent partner looks like before expending assets on another LHD. With gaping holes at 2C amd the right side, any assets should be used to address those IMHO

I think we're looking at another year of Pionk at 2RHD while Salo plays a year on the Moose OR we sign a guy who can push Pionk down to the 3rd pairing and then stay in the 2/ RD spots the next year as Salo graduates to the show

Of course, re-signing Demelo is the big priority

Next year:
Jomo Demelo
Snerg Placeholder
Heinola Pionk (eek)

Following year:
Jomo Demelo
Snerg salo/placeholder
Heinola placeholder/salo

I'd honestly rather see Samberg Schmidt on second pairing and buyout pionk - either way it's not 'great' if we can't find someone

 

[TS Quint]

Stans physical play just cost us penalties though... sambergs style is more aligned with the modern nhl

There isn't a single way to play the game. It's a team game and you need to have a mix or you will be exploited.

 

[Orrrules]

Chevy isn't gonna lose his #1 rhd and his #2 lhd to free agency and not replace them with equal or better options. He'll land a couple studs like he always does.

My bigger concern is our fly weight wings. We need more beef in the top 6 and moving Ehlers and Perfetti would be a good start.

 

[Buffdog]

Chevy isn't gonna lose his #1 rhd and his #2 lhd to free agency and not replace them with equal or better options. He'll land a couple studs like he always does.

My bigger concern is our fly weight wings. We need more beef in the top 6 and moving Ehlers and Perfetti would be a good start.

Trading small and skilled for big and unskilled is a bad idea

Here's my hierarchy:
1. Big, skilled, and fast
2. Skilled and fast
3. Skilled and big
4. Big and fast
5. Big

 

[Jet]

Chevy isn't gonna lose his #1 rhd and his #2 lhd to free agency and not replace them with equal or better options. He'll land a couple studs like he always does.

My bigger concern is our fly weight wings. We need more beef in the top 6 and moving Ehlers and Perfetti would be a good start.

I wouldn't trade Perfetti. His talent and mind transcends size. I do hope he improves his footspeed a bit though.

Ehlers I'm on board for. We know what he is and if we want to win a cup we need to upgrade

Trading small and skilled for big and unskilled is a bad idea

Here's my hierarchy:
1. Big, skilled, and fast
2. Skilled and fast
3. Skilled and big
4. Big and fast
5. Big

6. Small

 

[Buffdog]

I wouldn't trade Perfetti. His talent and mind transcends size. I do hope he improves his footspeed a bit though.

Ehlers I'm on board for. We know what he is and if we want to win a cup we need to upgrade


6. Small

19. Small, unskilled and slow

 

[Jet]

19. Small, unskilled and slow

Nic Petan. Just kidding!!!

 

[Orrrules]

Trading small and skilled for big and unskilled is a bad idea

Here's my hierarchy:
1. Big, skilled, and fast
2. Skilled and fast
3. Skilled and big
4. Big and fast
5. Big

Your book is pretty thin dog and nobody said anything about being big slow and unskilled.

 

[Orrrules]

I wouldn't trade Perfetti. His talent and mind transcends size. I do hope he improves his footspeed a bit though.

Ehlers I'm on board for. We know what he is and if we want to win a cup we need to upgrade


6. Small

Perfetti doesn't have enough skill too offset what he lacks in speed size and attitude.

 

[Buffdog]

Your book is pretty thin dog and nobody said anything about being big slow and unskilled.

Ah yes, chevy will just go get some big, skilled fast guys. Tons of those out there and available lol

Especially when he has a couple of little skilled guys to dangle as trade bait. All other GMs love downgrading

 

[voyageur]

Perfetti doesn't have enough skill too offset what he lacks in speed size and attitude.

If he hadn't been rushed to the NHL to fill a talent gap in a non playoff season Jets would be pretty happy getting 19 goals out of a 21/22 year old. That's ahead of Scheifele's goal production at that age...I think he takes the next step under Arniel, who will give him some confidence back.

 

[Orrrules]

If he hadn't been rushed to the NHL to fill a talent gap in a non playoff season Jets would be pretty happy getting 19 goals out of a 21/22 year old. That's ahead of Scheifele's goal production at that age...I think he takes the next step under Arniel, who will give him some confidence back.

Jets need more players built for playoff hockey, Perfetti will get abused.

 

[voyageur]

Jets need more players built for playoff hockey, Perfetti will get abused.

I don't know about that, he looked good in his first playoff game, I thought his line with Connor and Monahan created the most chances in the 1st period of game 5 from what I remember...of course Bones iced him when he needed a tying goal.

I do agree that the Jets need a different look to win in the playoffs.

 

[LowLefty]

Trading small and skilled for big and unskilled is a bad idea

Here's my hierarchy:
1. Big, skilled, and fast
2. Skilled and fast
3. Skilled and big
4. Big and fast
5. Big

When referring to size, we tend to get hung up around here on that point - but really what it's all about is being big enough to handle the NHL level of grind without being too small to the point where you're disadvantaged.
Lots of room between big and small and that's where most players land. Sometimes when we say big, we just mean big enough.
IMO, this is especially true on D -

 

[Buffdog]

When referring to size, we tend to get hung up around here on that point - but really what it's all about is being big enough to handle the NHL level of grind without being too small to the point where you're disadvantaged.
Lots of room between big and small and that's where most players land. Sometimes when we say big, we just mean big enough.
IMO, this is especially true on D -

100%

Some guys play bigger than they are some guys vice versa

 

[Daximus]

Jets need more players built for playoff hockey, Perfetti will get abused.

I think its a bit to early to say that. He's played all of 1 playoff game to date. Just because someone is sub 6' doesn't mean they will be a bad playoff performer. We know Ehlers can't cut it but need to see more of Perfetti to see what hes got.

 

[Daximus]

When referring to size, we tend to get hung up around here on that point - but really what it's all about is being big enough to handle the NHL level of grind without being too small to the point where you're disadvantaged.
Lots of room between big and small and that's where most players land. Sometimes when we say big, we just mean big enough.
IMO, this is especially true on D -

Yeah plenty of small players are playoff performers. Marchessault, Marchand, Stankoven.

What seperates the smaller guys that can do it vs the guys like Marner and Ehlers who can't is they stop going to the dirty areas in the playoffs because they are scared to get hit. You have to play with no fear if you want to succeed.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I'd like to see what Snerg on the 2nd pairing with a competent partner looks like before expending assets on another LHD. With gaping holes at 2C amd the right side, any assets should be used to address those IMHO

I think we're looking at another year of Pionk at 2RHD while Salo plays a year on the Moose OR we sign a guy who can push Pionk down to the 3rd pairing and then stay in the 2/ RD spots the next year as Salo graduates to the show

Of course, re-signing Demelo is the big priority

Next year:
Jomo Demelo
Snerg Placeholder
Heinola Pionk (eek)

Following year:
Jomo Demelo
Snerg salo/placeholder
Heinola placeholder/salo

Those might be likely scenarios, but I don't think they look good, unless that placeholder is pretty solid.

I'd be happier with Snerg - Pionk and Heinola - Placeholder or put Heinola at 3RD and get a 3LD somewhere. Using Heinola on the right side makes a LHD acquisition an option.

A pair of Heinola - Pionk looks like a good way to setup Heinola to fail. Maybe send him back to Europe in frustration.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Nic Petan. Just kidding!!!

That name popped into my mind too but he is skilled. Just small and slow.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

When referring to size, we tend to get hung up around here on that point - but really what it's all about is being big enough to handle the NHL level of grind without being too small to the point where you're disadvantaged.
Lots of room between big and small and that's where most players land. Sometimes when we say big, we just mean big enough.
IMO, this is especially true on D -

100%

Some guys play bigger than they are some guys vice versa

It really isn't about size at all. It is about effectiveness. We don't talk about Morrissey being too small.

We do sometimes talk about him as being a type that we don't want too many of. We would like a mix of sizes. But would anyone here not be happy to be able to ice 6 Morrisseys?

Where size seems to be an issue is with a player who lacks skill, to one extent or another and is unable to compensate for that lack by being bigger than the guys he gets matched up with. We see another side of that coin with a Stanley type. His great size still isn't quite enough to compensate for his lack of skills.

 

[Thechozen1]

Ah yes, chevy will just go get some big, skilled fast guys. Tons of those out there and available lol

Especially when he has a couple of little skilled guys to dangle as trade bait. All other GMs love downgrading

Only one that might become available for free is NICHUSHKIN, but we all know he wouldn’t be on True North’s radar for obvious reasons.

 

[tbcwpg]

Only one that might become available for free is NICHUSHKIN, but we all know he wouldn’t be on True North’s radar for obvious reasons.

He's got 5 years left in Colorado with a pending 6 month suspension and one step away from a year. If he does come back to the league he'll be with the Avs.

 

[Thechozen1]

He's got 5 years left in Colorado with a pending 6 month suspension and one step away from a year. If he does come back to the league he'll be with the Avs.

There’s been speculation of the Avalanche trying to find a way to terminate that contract when his suspension is complete.

Regardless I said might become available and he’s not coming here as he’d have no interest in Winnipeg and True North wouldn’t want him either.

 

[Orrrules]

Ah yes, chevy will just go get some big, skilled fast guys. Tons of those out there and available lol

Especially when he has a couple of little skilled guys to dangle as trade bait. All other GMs love downgrading

Walhstrom comes to mind right off the top since the Islanders and Jets have been linked to Ehlers. I'm sure a 5 minute Google would produce several options. Kaliyev in LA too but he sounds like he could be a head case.

 

[Whileee]

Pionk for Trouba: who says no? (Other than Trouba).