Rumor: All Purpose Trade Proposals, Speculation and Rumours - 2023/24

[10Ducky10]

DeMelo probably wants more term than Chevy is offering.
I wouldn't sign him for more than 4 years unless it is 5 x 3.8m.

Dillon wants to stay but how much is he asking for?

 

[gojetsgo]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1795548417042653234

could be a cheap 1 year reclamation project until salo is ready if we do somehow manage to get out of at least one of the schmidt/pionk contracts

 

[Royale With Cheese]

what? players do shit like this all the time to get a better offer from the team

I understand that.

 

[DRW204]

Exactly, Dillon basically said he was heading to UFA is what I read. Something doesn't make sense.

I like Dillon but (assuming his ask is reasonable) Demelo is the more valuable player to the Jets and my recollection is that he specifically said he wanted to stay here.

Lot can change bw now and July 1. Jets were focused on their new coaching staff, and probably the draft. It seems like they didn't really discuss contracts with any of the FAs yet so still lots of time to get something going.

 

[MardyBum]

Mcintyre said the same thing last week, and its just his opinion.

7-8 left shot dmen and Plunk. Success!

 

[Thechozen1]

Assuming no substantial trades or new FA acquisitions… give me this lineup in pre-season, Arnie.

Ehlers-Scheifele-Vilardi
Connor-Monahan-Perfetti
Nino-Lowry-Lambert
Barron-Namestnikov-Appleton/Chibrikov

Morrissey-Salomonsson
Heinola-DeMelo
Samberg-Pionk

Iafallo to somewhere for. 3rd?

 

[MelikeJets]

Someone is probably giving Demelo 6M in free agency.

Waaaay too much.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Kovy and Chisholm might he serviceable bottom pairing players but people are acting like we lost Cale Makar on waivers

No. People are acting like we lost serviceable bottom pairing D in order to keep non-serviceable bottom pair D.

Are we supposed to only critique management when and if they f**k up on such a massive scale as losing Makar on waivers?

We could have been (slightly) better for less cost on multiple occasions.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I think Lambert will be given an opportunity at center based on his usage on the Moose, but being the #2 center is probably at least 3 years away if he continues to develop well. Monahan makes sense as an intermediary option.

The problem will be signing Monahan to a contract that fits Jets needs. He will want both too much $$$ and too much term. Some GM might give it to him. I hope it is not Chevy. He will become the F version of Pionk and Schmidt.

You realize the likelihood of either Perfetti or Lambert exceeding Scheifele at center is very unlikely for several years and even then for either to sustain his career production is even more unlikely.

If either of them exceed Scheifele at C it is probably because Scheif has declined to that degree.

 

[Buffdog]

No. People are acting like we lost serviceable bottom pairing D in order to keep non-serviceable bottom pair D.

Are we supposed to only critique management when and if they f**k up on such a massive scale as losing Makar on waivers?

We could have been (slightly) better for less cost on multiple occasions.

*serviceable bottom pairing dman on the 5th worst defensive team on the league

I'll judge the management based on the size of the gaffe. Every team in the league losses 7th dmen and 13th forwards to waivers every year.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

*serviceable bottom pairing dman on the 5th worst defensive team on the league

I'll judge the management based on the size of the gaffe. Every team in the league losses 7th dmen and 13th forwards to waivers every year.

Sure. But that doesn't mean giving them a pass on smaller gaffes, especially when they make the same one multiple times.

 

[kylbaz]

What about a one for one using one of our top forward prospects for someone's top d prospect that is NHL ready? Think Anaheim did something similar last year? Can't remember with who

 

[Buffdog]

Sure. But that doesn't mean giving them a pass on smaller gaffes, especially when they make the same one multiple times.

Complaining about a GM losing a 7th (and to be honest, Kova was probably 9th) dman to waivers is like turning down sex from a supermodel becaue you think one of her tits is a little bigger than the other

Some people will always find something to nitpick about

 

[Adam da bomb]

The problem will be signing Monahan to a contract that fits Jets needs. He will want both too much $$$ and too much term. Some GM might give it to him. I hope it is not Chevy. He will become the F version of Pionk and Schmidt.



If either of them exceed Scheifele at C it is probably because Scheif has declined to that degree.

I guess the only way to get a prospect as good as Schief is to draft top 5. As it is rare that we draft the next big thing.

 

[KingBogo]

mcintyre on wst was saying he thinks at least 1 of the 2 between dillon/demelo will be back and the more likely would be dillon

Was he just blowing smoke to pretend he is relevant, or did it seem like he actually talked to someone who knows? It sure wouldn't have been Chevy.

 

[MardyBum]

Was he just blowing smoke to pretend he is relevant, or did it seem like he actually talked to someone who knows? It sure wouldn't have been Chevy.

Listening to the segment where Dillon was speaking to Donnie and Dhali iirc, it sure sounded like he was expecting to hit FA with an open mind

 

[lanky]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1795548417042653234

could be a cheap 1 year reclamation project until salo is ready if we do somehow manage to get out of at least one of the schmidt/pionk contracts

As a Coyotes fan, I was skeptical when Minnesota fans warned that Dumba was a shadow of the player he was before. I expected that he'd be decent to good. He's not. Jets are better off with Schmidt and Pionk and Heinola for sure.

 

[gojetsgo]

As a Coyotes fan, I was skeptical when Minnesota fans warned that Dumba was a shadow of the player he was before. I expected that he'd be decent to good. He's not. Jets are better off with Schmidt and Pionk and Heinola for sure.

but now what if you add in the player/players we could get with the cap savings from pionk + schmidt?

 

[tbcwpg]

but now what if you add in the player/players we could get with the cap savings from pionk + schmidt?

Salary dumps? It won't be spent on UFAs.

 

[voyageur]

DeMelo probably wants more term than Chevy is offering.
I wouldn't sign him for more than 4 years unless it is 5 x 3.8m.

Dillon wants to stay but how much is he asking for?

I feel like that Vlasic contract Chicago signed, plus the ones that Samuelsson in Buffalo and Mikey Anderson in L.A. signed would make it impossible to get De Melo under $4 million. At least $4.5 million based on those comparables. I wonder what the number is for Monahan? Signing those 2 + Perfetti, and there is no way the Jets make the Cap without shedding salary.

 

[roccerfeller]

Man I really like Monahan. He added so many things to our team we sorely needed and losing him we’re kinda back to square 1

But

In a hypothetical universe where Ehlers wants to stay with the Jets, but Monahans contract would take away his $$, what do you do?

I’d lean towards keeping Ehlers myself.


Regarding the D men situation, Dillon sounded on the Vancouver area radio station that he was happy with the Jets but is poised to hit UFA

Only way I see Dillon prioritized over DeMelo is if we can’t afford DeMelo but can afford Dillon. He did have many positives to say about the Jets and kept using the terms “us” and “our team”; “fun season” etc…I know he’s still a Jet until July 1 but it didn’t seem disingenuous at all and he did say he felt he was a big part of the team (end of season interviews). DeMelo felt similarly but if his agent is pricing him out of an extension with us then not much we can do. We can’t handicap our team’s overall competitiveness either

 

[Adam da bomb]

Man I really like Monahan. He added so many things to our team we sorely needed and losing him we’re kinda back to square 1

But

In a hypothetical universe where Ehlers wants to stay with the Jets, but Monahans contract would take away his $$, what do you do?

I’d lean towards keeping Ehlers myself.


Regarding the D men situation, Dillon sounded on the Vancouver area radio station that he was happy with the Jets but is poised to hit UFA

Only way I see Dillon prioritized over DeMelo is if we can’t afford DeMelo but can afford Dillon. He did have many positives to say about the Jets and kept using the terms “us” and “our team”; “fun season” etc

Interesting question. What is ehlers bringing back in a return after all we lose mono for free. If that wasn’t a consideration any answer but keeping ehlers would be wrong.

 

[roccerfeller]

Interesting question. What is ehlers bringing back in a return after we lose mono for free. If that wasn’t a consideration any answer but keeping ehlers would be wrong.

It’s tough isn’t it

Of course if he wants to move on then it’s moot. But I agree - you’d have to find a way to keep the player you drafted and has stuck with your org and now wants to stay…he just brings a dynamic we don’t otherwise have and it would be nice to have the new coaching staff take a spin with him…maybe they can do for ehlers what bones did for morrissey

 

[Adam da bomb]

It’s tough isn’t it

Of course if he wants to move on then it’s moot. But I agree - you’d have to find a way to keep the player you drafted and has stuck with your org and now wants to stay…he just brings a dynamic we don’t otherwise have and it would be nice to have the new coaching staff take a spin with him…maybe they can do for ehlers what bones did for morrissey

But if people offer you a top pairing D then you get mono as a nice bonus if u trade Ehlers.

 

[bumblebeeman]

Interesting question. What is ehlers bringing back in a return after all we lose mono for free. If that wasn’t a consideration any answer but keeping ehlers would be wrong.

But whoever we trade Ehlers for has a big cap hit, unless they aren't that good. So it doesn't quite add up I don't think. ALso since Monahan is ufa, his cap money can just be spent elsewhere, it doesn't have to be him at all