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Rumor: All Purpose Trade Proposals, Speculation and Rumours - 2023/24
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left out 'not' -
fixed.I've been seeing questions raised about Byram for quite a while now. You would think that Sabres would be aware of the issues.
The price they got for Mitts might not be a bad return IF there was some compelling need to move on from Mitts. And/or IF they had a huge hole at LHD. Otherwise, Buf got hosed. It is hard to see why they did this.
Blue Shakehead
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Aside from that time we went all in on Kevin Hayes, the Jets have been pretty good at the deadline. And I won't even dump on that deal out of respect to Kevin Hayes, having written probably the saddest but funniest Player Tribune article ever:
For My Brother, the Immortal Jimmy Hayes | By Kevin Hayes
Nobody ever thinks their big brother is going to die, I know.
www.theplayerstribune.com
The real issue/pressure is when there is a western arms race when we are sitting at the top of the West but unwilling to part with a 5th rounder to upgrade on Logan Stanley. That is my concern.
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friedman on jeff marek show said he heard we've looked at wingers and d but it's tough to tell if it's major or depth players
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Carolina's GM says that summers and the rest of the season are for roster building not the deadline. Carolina is top of advanced stats and in the mix for the first or 2nd spot in their division wvery season and yet never trades for rentals using premium assets.
Jets can trade those premium assets but you have to have term coming back... you just have to. A market like winnipeg can't afford to trade 2 premium assets for 2 rentals the same season.
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well they are being considered the front runners for guentzel so maybe they changed their stance on that
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that story is amazing ...I hate him like 3% less now
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When you look up the marshmallow test, be sure to read "marshmallow test debunked".
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Depth players don't seem that important since we're pretty deep already IMO.
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Not sure about all the concern for our 7th - and he's actually been playing pretty well lately (for a PD dman) -Aside from that time we went all in on Kevin Hayes, the Jets have been pretty good at the deadline. And I won't even dump on that deal out of respect to Kevin Hayes, having written probably the saddest but funniest Player Tribune article ever:
For My Brother, the Immortal Jimmy Hayes | By Kevin Hayes
Nobody ever thinks their big brother is going to die, I know.
The real issue/pressure is when there is a western arms race when we are sitting at the top of the West but unwilling to part with a 5th rounder to upgrade on Logan Stanley. That is my concern.
I doubt a 5th will get you much of an improvement (if at all) if there even is such a trade out there (that's willing to move to Wpg).
If we were serious about beefing out our D, we should have started a lot earlier - and it wouldn't be the PB guy that would get it done.
OTOH, we've been fine on the blueline (with whoever) as long as the team plays a shut-down game.
If the concern is that we will struggle with that, bringing in a PB replacement won't save us. I think the org is counting on us playing the system with total buy like the first half of the season - and fully realizes that if we don't, our blueline will crumble.
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Aside from that time we went all in on Kevin Hayes, the Jets have been pretty good at the deadline. And I won't even dump on that deal out of respect to Kevin Hayes, having written probably the saddest but funniest Player Tribune article ever:
For My Brother, the Immortal Jimmy Hayes | By Kevin Hayes
Nobody ever thinks their big brother is going to die, I know.
The real issue/pressure is when there is a western arms race when we are sitting at the top of the West but unwilling to part with a 5th rounder to upgrade on Logan Stanley. That is my concern.
Its an interesting dance every year.
This season the Jets already parted with a late 1st which is material so Chevy isn't really sitting on his hands he just front loaded his actively. I think over the years as long as we are selling when we are sellers and buying when we are buyers it all tends to even out.
I personally don't put allot of stock on rentals moving the odds of winning a Stanley cup all that much. Most posters feel differently than me about this topic.
To be clear I am fine with Mony for a 1st for this run. My passion meter on trade deadline rentals is REALLY low compared to the majority of hockey fans.
Blue Shakehead
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The problem with the marshmallow test in this case is that we don't get 2 Stanley Cups if we hold onto our 2nd or 3rd round pick, especially on a team that has only converted 1 second round pick over the last 14 years to an NHL player (Samberg)
In fact, until we kidnap or bribe Dallas's scouts to come over, we'd be better off trading our 2nd or 3rd round pick every single year for an effective NHL player that we can re-sign. (Nino, Namestnikov, Dillon, etc.)
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No, Chef did not go up and down a few times. Unless you mean that he fell and then got up a few times. He finished his Jr eligibility and then came up to stay. In between, he was once given 7 games at the start of a season and was clearly not ready. By the time he was the age Perfetti is now he was a full time Jet. And he scored at about the same pace as Perfetti is now.
Perfetti is doing just fine. Mostly lately he has lacked puck luck and his linemates have failed to finish.
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I think a little trepidation is justified - but lets just relax and see how some of these moves play out. Look at Lindholm in Van. Started strongly and then went stone cold. There is talk of flipping him.
Very often TD acquisitions fail to live up to expectations with their new teams. That is part of why TD rentals are such a gamble.
These proposals are all too complicated. They should just eliminate trade protection entirely. Lock the players out until they sign it.
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Ummmm, no.
Cap space would still accumulate exactly the same way. LTIR would still work exactly the same way - except - the cap would continue to apply right through until the Cup was won. So when a player is activated from LTIR there must be room for him under the cap, just the same as it is in the regular season. LTIR'ing a player until he magically heals for the PO would be ended. That's the only thing that would change.
Most owners have no problem with trade protection. Why would they lock players out over it?
It's not over yet, and maybe these teams are just trying to catch up to the team who's been near or at the top of the conference in winning percentage all season.Aside from that time we went all in on Kevin Hayes, the Jets have been pretty good at the deadline. And I won't even dump on that deal out of respect to Kevin Hayes, having written probably the saddest but funniest Player Tribune article ever:
For My Brother, the Immortal Jimmy Hayes | By Kevin Hayes
Nobody ever thinks their big brother is going to die, I know.
The real issue/pressure is when there is a western arms race when we are sitting at the top of the West but unwilling to part with a 5th rounder to upgrade on Logan Stanley. That is my concern.
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I think it is extremely unlikely that Andersson is available. Just look at the D corps Flames have left. Though you never know for sure. That is a tank worthy D corps now. Maybe they decide to go all the way with the tank.
High 2nd + Ville + Stan + Schmidt
Hope we don't run into any D injuries because our depth is gone.
Maybe we can still grab a depth D or 2.They also get the benefit of less competition for players they want to acquire.
I'm probably 60/40 for, for getting a player at the deadline . Obviously it depends on how much you are giving up to what you are getting but just using the Jets as a example i think Monahan has definitely helped us and made us a little better especially the PP . Stastny , Neo , Namestnikov all good adds but the flip side is a Hayes deal and losing picks that may or may not have turned into good players . I am leaning towards we should add a little more this deadline just because this team is very good and with the right addition who knows what we could do this playoffs.
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I have but I can't say it's from a reliable source....family member.
I always liked the TDL as interesting stuff happens and it is fun to discuss. And IMO Chevy is good at it. He mostly makes off the radar moves that have a net benefit and rarely makes dumb ass overpays. Last year’s TDL got us 2 important parts of this team both extended for very little cost.
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