Rumor: All Purpose Trade Proposals, Speculation and Rumours - 2023/24

[raideralex99]

NHL has to put in a rule if you lose a player to FA you get a extra draft pick ... the better the player the higher the pick.
Seriously Tarasenko with 50% retained by Sens only got a 4th & 5th because he only wanted to go to Florida.
Tanev only got a 2nd (Best D man on the board) seems like Canadian teams are getting hosed because of those NTC so if they were to be compensated by getting extra draft picks (like the NFL) the teams would not be giving away their players.
In Calgary's case they could still be in the hunt for the playoffs but instead they are selling off.
I don't blame the players if you had a choice between warm weather/no taxes or cold weather/high taxes ... what would you choose?

 

[Adam da bomb]

NHL has to put in a rule if you lose a player to FA you get a extra draft pick ... the better the player the higher the pick.
Seriously Tarasenko with 50% retained by Sens only got a 4th & 5th because he only wanted to go to Florida.
Tanev only got a 2nd (Best D man on the board) seems like Canadian teams are getting hosed because of those NTC so if they were to be compensated by getting extra draft picks (like the NFL) the teams would not be giving away their players.
In Calgary's case they could still be in the hunt for the playoffs but instead they are selling off.
I don't blame the players if you had a choice between warm weather/no taxes or cold weather/high taxes ... what would you choose?

Although Ottawa signed tarasenko as a fa.

 

[Bob E]

People keep repeating this but it’s not a valid solution. All “buyer” teams bank cap space throughout the year (including the Jets) to be able to buy players at the deadline. If you made everyone have to be at 83.5 during playoffs, there would legitimately be no more buyers and no more trade deadline. The cap space people are begging for the Jets to use right now in this thread was acquired by saving it up, not because we magically have a roster that amounts to under 83.5 when the dust settles. That’s just not how the cap works.

A more realistic fix is to just limit the relief granted by LTIR. If the spirit of LTIR is to allow teams at or near the cap/roster limits to replace an injured player, then just make the cap hit on LTIR the equivalent of burying it in the minors and only free up the minimum allowed. That way “burying” Stone on LTIR for 9M+ only actually frees up around 1.1M, or enough to call up 1 player and ice a full roster, as more likely intended.

To me, the purpose of the cap is to not only control player costs but also establish a competitive balance or parity so large market teams can’t simply outspend their smaller market rivals and ice all-star teams to win multiple cups.

Now I realize the cap compliant playoff roster suggestion I made would never fly with the players as some high priced players not producing would be healthy scratched for newly acquired high priced players.

So, reducing LTIR relief does make sense though it would also reduce TDL deals. The league has to figure out how to not penalize a team that does not have LTIR relief and stays within the cap, and allow them to be competitive against the Vegas and Tampa teams that ice $100+M rosters.

 

[Mathil8]

I've always thought it would be simple to keep the cap ceiling in place after the trade deadline and into the playoffs, just up it by ~2 or 3 million per team and expand rosters by 2-3 spots for black aces. Teams would still have to be cap compliant post trade deadline, and that would include players coming off of IR.

 

[abax44]

I would like a RHD but the AVs just paid a 1st for Walker good lord almighty. Maybe stay internal as well

So Bauer?

 

[Atoyot]

So Bauer?

Who is injured and at best the 5th best defenseman on the Moose?

 

[Atoyot]

I've always thought it would be simple to keep the cap ceiling in place after the trade deadline and into the playoffs, just up it by ~2 or 3 million per team and expand rosters by 2-3 spots for black aces. Teams would still have to be cap compliant post trade deadline, and that would include players coming off of IR.

Just make the cap exist for the entire season including playoffs. Closes all the loopholes and doesn't affect the black aces as roster limit goes away past the trade deadline. It just doesn't make sense to me that there's a cap that suddenly disappears at the most important time if the year.

 

[abax44]

If he wants to leave college, he'll sign within a couple of days of his season ending. May take longer for a visa but will be with the team within a week after imo.

Does Rutger need a Visa? I think he's got dual citizenship, no?

Who is injured and at best the 5th best defenseman on the Moose?

Sarcasm

 

[Atoyot]

Does Rutger need a Visa? I think he's got dual citizenship, no?


Sarcasm

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I wouldn't do it even if Vatrano had 4 more years and it was just straight up for Perfetti. Adding the high 2nd would be ludicrous.

Yeah, that's what I meant I wouldn't do.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Everyone talking about how good Middelstadt is and how he puts Colorado over the top as their 2c.

I find that interesting. He is three years older than Perfetti and three years ago was no where near as good as Perfetti is now. He had 25 and 22 points and was in and out of the lineup until last year. This year he has taken off. That’s why you don’t trade Perfetti because before three years he is going to be as good or better than Midds is today.

You have to have patience with young skilled players.

They don't all take off in their 5th NHL season or D+6 like Mitts has done.

But you don't sell low on a player like Perfetti either. He is just in a bit of a slump. He was having a fine season. And it isn't over yet.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Crazy. Also shows that some big deals don't work out well. Lindholm hasn't really fit in Vancouver but cudos to their GM for pivoting quickly from it.

Sometimes it's better not to tinker too much with your group.

An advantage of getting in early. Still time to move on - if they choose.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Other teams are playing with mortar shells, Chevy using firecrackers, it's unfortunate but he has his hands tied even before he can negotiate for certain players that he might be keen on

It was rumoured that Mitts was available. We didn't know if that was true or not or what the price might be. The price ended up being substantial but not out of sight. Maybe Chevy should have been going all in on him. OTOH, I have to wonder why Buffalo was so anxious to move their leading scorer.

 

[Gil Fisher]

It was rumoured that Mitts was available. We didn't know if that was true or not or what the price might be. The price ended up being substantial but out of sight. Maybe Chevy should have been going all in on him. OTOH, I have to wonder why Buffalo was so anxious to move their leading scorer.

Was it substantial or out of sight? I think Buffalo thinks so. Granted I haven't paid too close attention lately but I thought the shine was coming off Byram's star. Could Byram be a Bogo type, tools sans toolbox? Could this be an Avalanche fleecing in time? Story at eleven.

 

[Gil Fisher]

I think I remain only interested in Rasmus Anderson. I think he ticks the boxes for me. No idea if he'd be available.

Small depth moves would be fine for a B/C prospect or 5th rounder.

 

[Jets 31]

I love that the marshmallow experiment is mentioned. Anyone not aware, you should look it up.

So these people propose that Winnipeg which can't sign free agents spend critical pieces for rentals? Sell the farm for a couple of months of player and then if you get knocked out of the playoffs then what? The players gone, the future assets and prospects gone all over 1 playoff run, what is left is bitterness of losing pieces that can help you for multiple years for 2 months of rentals. Most of these people would fail the marshmallow experiment so bad.

Watched that and the little girl at the end had me laughing out loud, the lady doesn't even finish speaking and she's eating it already.

 

[lanky]

Coyotes have benefited from Troy Stecher's play this year. He's one of a few D that drive positive results. He'd be a cheap acquisition and valued depth at RD. He's probably not someone who would push Pionk or Schmidt out of the lineup, but he's a good option for the coach if he wants to change things up. And he's a much better option than Stanley if injury strikes. He shoots right and plays both sides well.

 

[DRW204]

Coyotes have benefited from Troy Stecher's play this year. He's one of a few D that drive positive results. He'd be a cheap acquisition and valued depth at RD. He's probably not someone who would push Pionk or Schmidt out of the lineup, but he's a good option for the coach if he wants to change things up. And he's a much better option than Stanley if injury strikes. He shoots right and plays both sides well.

He's like the prototypical PB RHD guy

 

[abax44]

Watched that and the little girl at the end had me laughing out loud, the lady doesn't even finish speaking and she's eating it already.

Whoa! Spoiler alert!!!

 

[Jets 31]

Whoa! Spoiler alert!!!

Ya sorry i guess it is.

 

[lanky]

He's like the prototypical PB RHD guy

I'm not claiming that he's as good as Demelo, but he's similar to Demelo in that everyone will always under-value him because he's not big or flashy or highly productive.

 

[Guardian17]

It would be hilarious if Vegas missed the playoffs, they haven’t play well lately and they have gotten below average goaltending

I would love to see this happen!

 

[jetsmooseice]

NHL has to put in a rule if you lose a player to FA you get a extra draft pick ... the better the player the higher the pick.
Seriously Tarasenko with 50% retained by Sens only got a 4th & 5th because he only wanted to go to Florida.
Tanev only got a 2nd (Best D man on the board) seems like Canadian teams are getting hosed because of those NTC so if they were to be compensated by getting extra draft picks (like the NFL) the teams would not be giving away their players.
In Calgary's case they could still be in the hunt for the playoffs but instead they are selling off.
I don't blame the players if you had a choice between warm weather/no taxes or cold weather/high taxes ... what would you choose?

Canadian teams are seriously disadvantaged by NTCs. If they can't be eliminated, then the league has to negotiate a limit with the PA... let's say there are 50 NTCs on the table for each team. Each player can have a maximum dependent on seniority, let's say 5-10 years = max 5, 10-15 years = max 10, 15-20 years = max 15. Once a team's 50 NTC chips are claimed, i.e. 50 players have included NTCs for a specific team in their contract, then that's it for that team.

I get that I sound like a whiner to fans of Vegas, Florida, LA, etc., but there has to be some level of balance here. You can't have damn near every veteran rejecting trades to places that get snow. You're either a NHL player or you're not, there's no such thing as a "Texas/Nevada/Florida Only NHL player"

 

[Jets 31]

So has Vegas traded for Crosby yet for a 1st in 2030 but only if they win the Cup , then it's a 7th this year ? No, Maybe tomorrow on deadline day.

 

[tbcwpg]

Canadian teams are seriously disadvantaged by NTCs. If they can't be eliminated, then the league has to negotiate a limit with the PA... let's say there are 50 NTCs on the table for each team. Each player can have a maximum dependent on seniority, let's say 5-10 years = max 5, 10-15 years = max 10, 15-20 years = max 15. Once a team's 50 NTC chips are claimed, i.e. 50 players have included NTCs for a specific team in their contract, then that's it for that team.

I get that I sound like a whiner to fans of Vegas, Florida, LA, etc., but there has to be some level of balance here. You can't have damn near every veteran rejecting trades to places that get snow. You're either a NHL player or you're not, there's no such thing as a "Texas/Nevada/Florida Only NHL player"

It'll never happen. The PA wants the player to have more control over their future and the owners want the teams in those markets that aren't on NTCs to be successful.