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Rumor: All Purpose Trade Proposals, Speculation and Rumours - 2023/24
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For several years, Scheif has consistently put in horrific and team morale destroying levels of defensive effort. In the deco half of last year, there were several shifts that were as bad as PLDs last shift in Columbus.
Any good NHL coach would be absolutely disgusted about Scheif’s horrific defensive efforts because it can destroy a dressing room and lower team morale substantially.
That is what Scheif has done to the team these last few years. Very sad.
A Murray and Brossoit tandem is almost assured to spend 65% of the season on IR. Who’s next up, Delia or Salminen? No thanks.
The guys added in the PLD trade might help hold guys accountable for better defensive play - looking at you KFC and Scheif. The more guys that are ‘bought in’ defensively, the greater the chance everyone buys in.
PLD took games off, and wasn’t as solid defensively as he could have been. Recently Wheeler wasn’t the player he’s been in past, as the play died on his stick far too often. He also seemed to take bad penalties at wrong times.
I’m looking forward to seeing what we have with this group. Would also like to see Barlow get 5-7 games to start the season before returning to Jr, if he has a great camp.
PLD took games off, and wasn’t as solid defensively as he could have been. Recently Wheeler wasn’t the player he’s been in past, as the play died on his stick far too often. He also seemed to take bad penalties at wrong times.
I’m looking forward to seeing what we have with this group. Would also like to see Barlow get 5-7 games to start the season before returning to Jr, if he has a great camp.
As it stands with the roster barring no more changes, we’re a playoff team. Wild card to be specific.
Without Helle? God on knows lol
Zero chance NJ moves Nemec or Mercer for Hellebuyck. Even if he is signed long term.
Mercer is a budding star that NJ wouldn't trade for Timo Meier. He is not getting traded for a goalie. Nemec is a 2nd overall pick who had a very good first year in AHL.
Best we can offer is Alex Holtz, Vanecek and picks. If that is not enough, then Fitzgerald will wait for free agency. He has already stated publicly that he is happy to go with Vanecek and Schmid for the season after trading Blackwood.
Yes the team could upgrade Vanecek but he was still good enough for NJ to finish with a 3rd overall record in NHL last season. If Vanecek regresses this season, maybe there is a deadline deal to be made between our two teams. But it certainly wont involve Mercer or Nemec.
I'd do a deal around Holtz, Vanecek and picks. Would love it if it was Schmid instead of Vanecek, but the dollars make more sense with Vanecek. I'm guessing that the Jets have little interest in Vanecek though. May need to find another home for him.
I think no team makes more sense for Hellebuyck than NJ. He's a top 3 goalie alongside your natural rivals' Shesterkin and Sorokin. I think it immediately makes Jersey the clear favourite in the East.
Wait…..are you saying that your offer is a take it or leave it or otherwise you will just sign him in a year for free. Because you can’t say that. The Habs are only allowed to use that line of thinking
I'd personally be interested in a deal around Holtz + Vanecek + picks.
Hopefully both orgs feel the same way and get a deal done this summer
Don't forget Rangers fans with Trouba as well. How anyone can still assume that we will ever be the kind of franchise that will just let guys walk to FA is surprising as Chevy proves them wrong every single time yet they still parrot this line like they get a cracker.
I can absolutely see NJD moving Nemec for Helle. That team is on the precipice of having a multi-year run at being a legit contender for the SC, and the missing ingredient is a Vezina calibre goaltender. That team is currently doing it without Nemec and has Hughes in the pipeline to be a top pairing D. Mercer is a tougher sell at this point
Do you think the Leafs would trade us Liljegren for Vesalainen? They'd get a million of cap relief and we'd put to bed the Vegas expansion debate forever! 
*wit, not stupidity
*wit, not stupidity
Evolving Hockey projects Vilardi and Samberg as being two of the most valuable RFA's based on their projected contracts.
They project Vilardi at 4/$16.2m and Samberg at 2/$2.4m. I think Vilardi will only get 2 years and a lesser amount, while Snerg might get a bit more, but also two years. That would have their expiries 2 and 1 year from UFA, respectively.
They project Vilardi at 4/$16.2m and Samberg at 2/$2.4m. I think Vilardi will only get 2 years and a lesser amount, while Snerg might get a bit more, but also two years. That would have their expiries 2 and 1 year from UFA, respectively.
Maybe the compromise to getting Nemec is insisting on Schmid and no retention on Helly. i.e. Chevy will pass on Schmid, take Vanecek and his contract, and retain on Helly, if it's Nemec and a pick coming back instead of Holtz and a pick.
That would be by far the biggest return a goalie has EVER gotten. A 2nd overall pick 1 year removed from being the 2nd overall pick. Literally unheard of return.
Do you think the Leafs would trade us Liljegren for Vesalainen? They'd get a million of cap relief and we'd put to bed the Vegas expansion debate forever!
*wit, not stupidity
They need to clear some cap but it's doubtful they move a young roster player in a position of need for a useless non-roster player. Would be nice though.
It's the salary difference that makes it that much more of a no go. It's 19 year old Nemec + 5-6 mil in cap space that is only going to improve vs 30 year old Helle that can only go down in value
If people want to get hurt, I'll try not to be Mr Negative going forward on this. We couldn't even get Byfield in a deal for PLD though, and he was the more valuable asset (despite being less valuable player today)
So what are the possible destinations for 55?
Boston - Swayman, Lysell, 2025 1st
Nashville - Glass, Askarov, 2024 2nd
Detroit - seem capped out at C with Larkin, Compher and Copp?
Anaheim - I could see it; they have lots of space and could use the veteran down the middle there for the rebuild. don't know what I'd ask for
Seattle - cap space; short on signed forwards; they have Beniers/Wright as the cornerstones, but with the success of last season, do they lose some patience?
Calgary - to replace Lindholm, whom likely gets moved (3-way with Carolina?)
NYR - the gang's back together! probably have the space with either Chytil or Lafreniere coming back (Chytil might be more attractive due to the nice contract)
Carolina - directly instead of the three-way with Calgary (Kotkaniemi +)
Boston - Swayman, Lysell, 2025 1st
Nashville - Glass, Askarov, 2024 2nd
Detroit - seem capped out at C with Larkin, Compher and Copp?
Anaheim - I could see it; they have lots of space and could use the veteran down the middle there for the rebuild. don't know what I'd ask for
Seattle - cap space; short on signed forwards; they have Beniers/Wright as the cornerstones, but with the success of last season, do they lose some patience?
Calgary - to replace Lindholm, whom likely gets moved (3-way with Carolina?)
NYR - the gang's back together! probably have the space with either Chytil or Lafreniere coming back (Chytil might be more attractive due to the nice contract)
Carolina - directly instead of the three-way with Calgary (Kotkaniemi +)
I think if NJ wants to get greedy and insists on salary retention then maybe its okay to get greedy back. We know how the Jets feel about retention haha.
If you're NJ at that point you'd probably just ride it out closer to deadline when the salary is easier to fit in?
I think you're on the right track here for sure though.
Vanecek, Holtz a 1st and a young depth piece is around where I think it ends up
Yeah I think Vanacek, Holtz and a 1st is the most likely return. I see absolutely no world where we get back anything more than that.
I think a lot hinges on both Scheif and Helle's deals being kind of in tandem if they are moved. If Helle is kept then they will do a full court press on keeping Scheif. If we end up moving both then we only need to target a goalie in one of the trades.
The Nashville deal on this list is certainly the most interesting to me. Glass would be an interesting add and we could safely add Askarov and develop him even if we trade Helle for another roster goalie.
For anyone interested I made up a little Armchair GM on cap friendly with everyone's projected cap hits based on the list published by AFP analytics found here.
Based on this we should have around $2,616,029 in space which gives us some wiggle room. any additional moves like moving out Helle and Scheif and possibly getting even younger would have us sitting pretty good long term.
Based on this we should have around $2,616,029 in space which gives us some wiggle room. any additional moves like moving out Helle and Scheif and possibly getting even younger would have us sitting pretty good long term.
Is that a one year deal for Samberg? Seems like a horrible decision for the Jets if so.For anyone interested I made up a little Armchair GM on cap friendly with everyone's projected cap hits based on the list published by AFP analytics found here.
Based on this we should have around $2,616,029 in space which gives us some wiggle room. any additional moves like moving out Helle and Scheif and possibly getting even younger would have us sitting pretty good long term.
It was off of a site that projects these things, so I think the idea was some objective criteria.
I think most of us are hoping Chevy goes hard and locks him up long term
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