Rumor: All Purpose Trade Proposals, Speculation and Rumours - 2023/24

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Mortimer Snerd

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Torts has been somewhat vocal about listening on UFAs. They're in a strange place where the roster as-is ain't gonna win shit, but they're in the playoff hunt

Who knows

Yeah, Flyers keep saying they are looking to sell, but they haven't sold anyone yet and they keep winning.
 
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KingBogo

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Torts has been somewhat vocal about listening on UFAs. They're in a strange place where the roster as-is ain't gonna win shit, but they're in the playoff hunt

Who knows
Which is weird in itself as he is the coach not the GM. Either just maintaining the party line or using it as a form of motivation to play well or we will move you. Maybe both?
 
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Its not a question of whether we wanted Tanev and had the goods to give the Flames want they wanted its a more of a we didn't have what the Flames wanted. I am sure as hell not giving up Salomonsson for Tanev and it sounds like the Flames really coveted that D Dallas gave up
 

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The cost was not high and it would be hard to come up with a better fit.
Maybe.

I think Cheveldayoff has earned my trust. Look at the sheer number of really great deals he's made, particularily under duress.

We could have easily beat that deal with mtl's second, one of our many b Prospects and a conditional of our own.

I think he had something else in mind - Stanley seems like a player Tortorella would love, so maybe he goes the other way in a trade for Walker?

Maybe it's a bigger deal including Konecny - but considering their position and his importance to the team I find that unlikely.

Once TDL day is done, I think it'll make more sense.
 

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Going into the trade deadline and whatever Chevy decides to do we have to remember that whatever names are linked to the Jets and that player goes somewhere else we might of gotten out bid which is fair or he may not want to come here and that's not Chevy's fault in not getting him.
 

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I wonder about a possible deal with the Habs for a winger. Pearson and Armia would probably be available for next to nothing. Armia has one more year at 3.8 which the Habs would like to dump. But he's playing well and he's that right shot heavy w you can plug in for Apples. Maybe you get him for futures (nothing)
 

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There is a strong chance that Chevy could’ve offered the 2025 2nd round pick. I understand why Calgary would’ve gone for the 2024 pick in that case - but that also implies Chevy has a bigger target than Tanev to spend his 2024 capital on.
 
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Maybe.

I think Cheveldayoff has earned my trust. Look at the sheer number of really great deals he's made, particularily under duress.

We could have easily beat that deal with mtl's second, one of our many b Prospects and a conditional of our own.

I think he had something else in mind - Stanley seems like a player Tortorella would love, so maybe he goes the other way in a trade for Walker?

Maybe it's a bigger deal including Konecny - but considering their position and his importance to the team I find that unlikely.

Once TDL day is done, I think it'll make more sense.

In this case it is not about the deals he has made. It is about the ones he has not made.

I don't know Walker. Is he a D first Dman? Is he the kind we need for the PO?

I think Tanev was exactly what we need on D. He went for a pretty low price. There isn't an equivalent player available. Apparently Chevy doesn't see the same need I do.

I've seen some fans of other teams also wondering why their team didn't out bid Dallas. Now we get to face Dallas with Tanev.
 

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In this case it is not about the deals he has made. It is about the ones he has not made.

I don't know Walker. Is he a D first Dman? Is he the kind we need for the PO?

I think Tanev was exactly what we need on D. He went for a pretty low price. There isn't an equivalent player available. Apparently Chevy doesn't see the same need I do.

I've seen some fans of other teams also wondering why their team didn't out bid Dallas. Now we get to face Dallas with Tanev.
Lets not forget Tanev had a 10 team no trade clause. Pretty safe to say we were on it.
 

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Its not a question of whether we wanted Tanev and had the goods to give the Flames want they wanted its a more of a we didn't have what the Flames wanted. I am sure as hell not giving up Salomonsson for Tanev and it sounds like the Flames really coveted that D Dallas gave up
Also, Tanev has a 10-team no-trade clause. I assume that the Jets are on it, unless proven otherwise. He might not have been an option for the Jets, regardless.
 
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In this case it is not about the deals he has made. It is about the ones he has not made.

I don't know Walker. Is he a D first Dman? Is he the kind we need for the PO?

I think Tanev was exactly what we need on D. He went for a pretty low price. There isn't an equivalent player available. Apparently Chevy doesn't see the same need I do.

I've seen some fans of other teams also wondering why their team didn't out bid Dallas. Now we get to face Dallas with Tanev.
A couple possible reasons. Tanev preferred Dallas over Winnipeg and wouldn't waive his 10 team no trade list to come to the Jets, or Dallas put a higher value on the prospect included then Chevy was willing to beat.
 

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In this case it is not about the deals he has made. It is about the ones he has not made.

I don't know Walker. Is he a D first Dman? Is he the kind we need for the PO?

I think Tanev was exactly what we need on D. He went for a pretty low price. There isn't an equivalent player available. Apparently Chevy doesn't see the same need I do.

I've seen some fans of other teams also wondering why their team didn't out bid Dallas. Now we get to face Dallas with Tanev.
Tanev has a 10-team no trade clause. Winnipeg is almost certainly on it. Unless someone has any evidence that Winnipeg wasn't on the NTC, or that he was willing to waive, I think any discussion about a "potential" trade is moot.
 

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If the Jets are trying to replace Schmidt, I think I’d prefer they go for someone offensive to play with Samberg. Can Hanifin play the right side?
 
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If the Jets are trying to replace Schmidt, I think I’d prefer they go for someone offensive to play with Samberg. Can Hanifin play the right side?
I don't think there's any chance of getting Hanifin. He has made it widely known that his next contact will be on the US east coast so all those teams will be willing to outbid the Jets for the opportunity to acquire and sign. Even if a deal can't be worked out teams like BOS and NJ would offer way more as they likely feel they have a legitimate shot at re-signing the player if they can get him into the mix.

I think the ship has sailed for any major upgrade at D for a rental anyway. I could see Chevy trading for someone with term but for pending UFAs I think we are into the #7/#8 D man area now.
 
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Tanev has a 10-team no trade clause. Winnipeg is almost certainly on it. Unless someone has any evidence that Winnipeg wasn't on the NTC, or that he was willing to waive, I think any discussion about a "potential" trade is moot.

That is a possibility. But if we had made the better offer Flames would have asked him to waive. They wouldn't have said they also had an offer from Dallas and left it up to him to choose. They would have focused on the better offer. He might have said no and told them to go find something else. But we haven't heard any suggestion that he refused.

I assume Wpg was on his NT list. We are on everyone's list. But this is also the guy who recommended his brother sign with us. I think he would have waived. Can't know any of that for certain of course.

The discussion is, of necessity, speculative.
 

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A couple possible reasons. Tanev preferred Dallas over Winnipeg and wouldn't waive his 10 team no trade list to come to the Jets, or Dallas put a higher value on the prospect included then Chevy was willing to beat.

We don't know one way or another about Tanev waiving.

Doesn't matter how high a value Dallas put on the prospect. It only matters how highly Flames think of him. Looks like a pretty low level prospect to me. Surely we could have beaten that without any trouble. The difference between the 2nd rd picks almost does that by itself.

Whatever, it is done now. I'm disappointed both that we didn't get Tanev and that we will now have to get by Dallas with him.

I neither expect nor don't expect anything further from Chevy. We'll see. I thought Tanev was the best possible fit for us so tough to beat.
 
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If the Jets are trying to replace Schmidt, I think I’d prefer they go for someone offensive to play with Samberg. Can Hanifin play the right side?

Schmidt has been weak in recent games but on the season he has been good with Samberg. You might say that Snerg has been carrying him but Snerg hasn't been that great with other partners.

Meanwhile, Pionk has been pretty bad lately too.

Not sure who gets the bench. Maybe Chevy is just counting on both Pionk and Schmidt bouncing back. Maybe all he wants is a better #7 guy.

Lets not forget Tanev had a 10 team no trade clause. Pretty safe to say we were on it.

Not forgetting that. But I remember him recommending that his brother come to Wpg. That was then and this is now. We can't know if he would have waived or not.
 
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We don't know one way or another about Tanev waiving.

Doesn't matter how high a value Dallas put on the prospect. It only matters how highly Flames think of him. Looks like a pretty low level prospect to me. Surely we could have beaten that without any trouble. The difference between the 2nd rd picks almost does that by itself.

Whatever, it is done now. I'm disappointed both that we didn't get Tanev and that we will now have to get by Dallas with him.

I neither expect nor don't expect anything further from Chevy. We'll see. I thought Tanev was the best possible fit for us so tough to beat.
flames seem to value the prospect pretty highly from everything they and people have reported said
 

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Its not a question of whether we wanted Tanev and had the goods to give the Flames want they wanted its a more of a we didn't have what the Flames wanted. I am sure as hell not giving up Salomonsson for Tanev and it sounds like the Flames really coveted that D Dallas gave up
The D they got is more like Tyrel Bauer... he's a 7th D at best when he makes the nhl
 
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