It’s probably coaches defer too much to schief’s. if they just point out that the team is better if he plays with fly instead of kfc there wouldn’t be the problem.
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Because Ehlers has played more minutes?
KC has played 586 minutes and Ehlers has played 705 minutes.
Deal with that and I don't have to move on, KC is the better player.
Interested in how you will move the goal posts now...
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Can Scheifele Ehlers and Conner just be on the same line together?
It wouldn't be the best defensively, but it would light opponents up.
It wouldn't be the best defensively, but it would light opponents up.
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Move the goalposts? What are you on about.
Those are 1 season numbers. I'm talking larger sample sizes, like career. Same goalposts I have been using all along.
You are just going to insist that Connor is the better player based solely on points scored, goals against don't count. I don't like +/- but it is a quick and dirty response to your 1 season number. This year, KC, -5 - Ehlers +19.
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I expect that is correct - and up to a point, it should be. The vet leaders on the team should have some input into line mates. I expect that is also why Nino is always with Lowry too.
OTOH, Scheif should be asked to take one for the team and allow KC to be used to fix the 2nd line. Its all in how it is presented.
I honestly think that KC would be a better fit with Perfetti and Monahan .... or Namestnikov if Monahan doesn't work out. The only way to find out for certain though, is to try it.
Wouldn't be the worst either. In 174:46 minutes of ice time together over the last three seasons, they are GF 10 - GA 6 with positive Corsi and slightly positive expected goals numbers.
Both Ehlers and Connor have played better offensively with Villardi playing his role than with each other.
Actually, you responded to a Post of mine where I had posted numbers on the season. Maybe you misread it and thought I was talking about their careers.
While i wouldn't mind Neo getting a shot on the 2nd line it's not going to happen because Bowness loves Neo, Lowry and Appleton. Can't fault him for that because that line has been very good this year especially at shutting down the other team's best line.
I could see doing that if we were down a goal and needed one bad but Vilardi is playing very well right now.
Play Ehlers and KC with Monahan.
Play Perfetti and Volare with Scheif...maybe it'll bring Perfetti out of his funk? Maybe it's just getting used to the long season and all the travel that is hampering his play?
Either that or move Nino into the top 6.
Play Perfetti and Volare with Scheif...maybe it'll bring Perfetti out of his funk? Maybe it's just getting used to the long season and all the travel that is hampering his play?
Either that or move Nino into the top 6.
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I would rather see Monahan Volardi and Perfetti. Perfetti and Ehlers should never been on the same line because of their size. Two small wingers on one line doesn't work unless one of them is a bulldog.
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See, this is why it's insane to use stats like these to draw conclusions
Based on the time you posted and assuming an average shift length of 45 seconds, they played 233 shifts together
10 times, something good happened, or 4.3% of their shifts
6 times, something bad happened, or 2.5% of their shifts
In ABSOLUTE TERMS, there was a 1.8% increase in good over bad
It's super common to see people use RELATIVE terms in order to try to overatate a small absolute affect. That would be a GF% or xGF or something like that. Even then, the differences are almost negligible
I once did the math on the difference between a 55% Corsi player and a 45% corsi player because:
1. That was the in fashion fancy stat of the day
And
2. Those numbers are on thr outer ends of the distribution and people felt comfortable saying a 55% CF player is superior to the 45%CF player...
Turns out the difference between the two is the 55%CF player is ON THE ICE (not even necessarily directly related to the shot attempt) for one more shot attempts for their team than the 45% player every nine shifts
don't disagree. but just not sure if that'll happen.
i do think nino would provide some additional size and net-front presence in the top-6 along with his usual good 2-way play.
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Ehlers Scheifele Connor line has been good together. I am okay with that line as even if they are not defensively the best they don't bleed scoring chances against like the 81-55-13 line does.
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Scheifele-Niederreiter is a combination that I would love to see. Not sure who the third wheel would be, but I'd be fairly sure about it working with most LWs.
Oh yeah don't disagree at all. I suggested the same combo in the off season. Ninos scoring over recent years was in the same tier as some of our top 6ers, while adding a solid physical presence and V good two way play overall.
Nino says hi lol.
I know it was a different scenario but I wonder if the preds would have made the playoffs if they didn't deal him to the Jets that year
The same people who HATE plus minus.
The same people who say faceoffs don't matter.
If you look at metrics and hockey stats nerds it becomes clear that most of them really aren't literate when it comes to statistical science.
When you take the fact that a lot of its based on bad or incomplete data, is further polluted by bias and ulterior motives (driving a narrative) and the people interpreting the stats are amateurs you can quickly see where the problems lie.
When Kyle Connor was injured, did he go on the LTIR list? If not, any reason why he wouldn’t have? (Asking why Jets wouldn’t take advantage of it for cap reasons, if they didn’t)
IIRC it was IR and not LTIR.
I think for a shorter recovery timeline and without immediate cap pressure it made less sense to move him to LTIR at the time.
Jets place Kyle Connor on IR, confirm 6-8 week recovery timeline
The Winnipeg Jets placed forward Kyle Connor on injured reserve Wednesday and in a corresponding move, recalled Dominic Toninato from the AHL's Manitoba Moose.
Jets Place Kyle Connor On IR, Recall Dominic Toninato
The Winnipeg Jets have placed star winger Kyle Connor on waivers and recalled Dominic Toninato under emergency conditions.
www.prohockeyrumors.com
A useful explainer:
The Complicated NHL LTIR Rules Explained
To say the NHL's LTIR system is complicated is an undestatement. But I break it all down here and illustrated how it affects each team using it this season.
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we would have actually lost deadline capspace by putting him on ltir, going on ltir stops you from accruing cap space throughout the season and since we had enough capspace to call players up there was no reason to use ltir
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