Rumor: All Purpose Trade Proposals, Speculation and Rumours - 2023/24

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KingBogo

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Lots of folks content to include Lambert in deals for this deadline. Count me out, that guy along with Rutger are untouchables. Whether I’m right or wrong, wont know until after whatever happens and a career is carved out but Lambert has a lot of something we don’t have. Hold on to him.
I doubt very much Chevy trades any of his top prospects as he never has. Chevy has a history of holding on tight to his top prospects.
 

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Would chibrikov, 1st (25), Iafallo get Anderson here?

Maybe even Montreals 2nd would work in the 1sts place.
 

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Lots of folks content to include Lambert in deals for this deadline. Count me out, that guy along with Rutger are untouchables. Whether I’m right or wrong, wont know until after whatever happens and a career is carved out but Lambert has a lot of something we don’t have. Hold on to him.
The team's window is now. I wouldn't want to but I'd trade him in the right deal.

Would chibrikov, 1st (25), Iafallo get Anderson here?

Maybe even Montreals 2nd would work in the 1sts place.
Not near enough.
 

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It appears that Rasmus Andersson might be available from Calgary. He is 27 year old big right D with some scoring ability. I would suggest we offer Schmidt (Wpg retains 1.4 million of salary), Heinola and Montreal's second round pick for him (may need to offer next years first instead).

Where are you hearing he might be moved?
 

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The team's window is now. I wouldn't want to but I'd trade him in the right deal.


Not near enough.
I think a lot depends on what we or more importantly what Chevy defines as a "now" window. Is it this year and maybe next or is it closer to 5 years or so? If he sees it as 1 or 2 years, than sure dig into the prospect pool and make the more painful now moves as they won't be major contributors in that short of a window.

If Chevy sees it as closer to a 5 year window then our current prospect pool will be vital for that as they will provide cheaper ELCs to replace the more expensive middle class player allowing for the raises to keep our aging core together. Personally I'm leaning more towards a 5 year window, and I'm very reluctant to see our prospect pool get eaten up in a short all or nothing window.
 
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I think a lot depends on what we or more importantly what Chevy defines as a "now" window. Is it this year and maybe next or is it closer to 5 years or so? If he sees it as 1 or 2 years, than sure dig into the prospect pool and make the more painful now moves as they won't be major contributors in that short of a window.

If Chevy sees it as closer to a 5 year window then our current prospect pool will be vital for that as they will provide cheaper ELCs to replace the more expensive middle class player allowing for the raises to keep our aging core together. Personally I'm leaning more towards a 5 year window, and I'm very reluctant to see our prospect pool get eaten up in a short all or nothing window.
Losing Lambert is our prospect pool getting eaten up?
 

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Lots of folks content to include Lambert in deals for this deadline. Count me out, that guy along with Rutger are untouchables. Whether I’m right or wrong, wont know until after whatever happens and a career is carved out but Lambert has a lot of something we don’t have. Hold on to him.
Agree. I think Lambert is going to be great.
 

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That's a really good comparison. I would think that Chychrun is a bit more highly rated, but Anderson is a righty. Would be good protection against Dillon and or Demelo leaving in the summer.

I'm probably alone, but I'd part with Lambert if it came to that. They also might be interested in Iafallo, if they want players coming back, whom could be a cap casualty for us in the summer otherwise.

Andersson is a righty and doesn't have Chychrun's injury history to carry. Early in their careers Chychrun was more offensive but it appears Andersson has caught up in that area. They are very similar in size but I think Andersson plays a more physical game. I also suspect that Andersson is better defensively.

I've seen very little of Chychrun play. Those are just my impressions. But based on my version of the facts I'd much rather have Andersson and I would pay a lot to get him.
 
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Would chibrikov, 1st (25), Iafallo get Anderson here?

Maybe even Montreals 2nd would work in the 1sts place.

Flames have just 3 Dmen under contract for next year and their prospect pool isn't going to fill that in. That makes it less likely they trade Andersson. That would leave them with just 2. So if they trade him there needs to be Dmen coming back.

Mtl 2nd + Heinola + Stanley + Iafallo

We could have a D shortage of our own if Dillon and DeMelo are not extended. This would leave us with just 5 but the quality is better.
 

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I think a lot depends on what we or more importantly what Chevy defines as a "now" window. Is it this year and maybe next or is it closer to 5 years or so? If he sees it as 1 or 2 years, than sure dig into the prospect pool and make the more painful now moves as they won't be major contributors in that short of a window.

If Chevy sees it as closer to a 5 year window then our current prospect pool will be vital for that as they will provide cheaper ELCs to replace the more expensive middle class player allowing for the raises to keep our aging core together. Personally I'm leaning more towards a 5 year window, and I'm very reluctant to see our prospect pool get eaten up in a short all or nothing window.

It is also a consideration of 5 years of falling short vs 3 years of possibly going all the way, starting with this one. This season may be the best shot Jets get in a generation, or ever.

It is the difference between competing and contending.

Was the 5 game losing streak plus the surrounding games unable to score the real Jets emerging? Or was it just a mid-season slump? If the first half Jets, who were #1 in the league, were the real Jets, if it was really worth giving up a 1st to get Monahan, then it is worth parting with some futures for a solid RHS Dman who will be with us for 3 PO runs.
 

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Do not trade Chibrikov.

That trade has backfire written all over it.

If they're willing to do Lucious, Montreals 2nd and Stanley sign me up
The problem is that no one else in their right mind would do it
 

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It is also a consideration of 5 years of falling short vs 3 years of possibly going all the way, starting with this one. This season may be the best shot Jets get in a generation, or ever.

It is the difference between competing and contending.

Was the 5 game losing streak plus the surrounding games unable to score the real Jets emerging? Or was it just a mid-season slump? If the first half Jets, who were #1 in the league, were the real Jets, if it was really worth giving up a 1st to get Monahan, then it is worth parting with some futures for a solid RHS Dman who will be with us for 3 PO runs.
IMO our peak contention window is likely a couple years away yet. We have a lot of young talent likely ready within the next couple years and if they hit before we start seeing a drop off in our originally drafted core Chevy might just hit the sweet zone with this team. I would say this team is the 2nd most talented team behind 2017-2018, we are just better coached to better maximize our talent.
 
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Depends how high you are on him. He is our 2nd highest ranked prospect behind McGroarty and is looking like he could potentially develop into our #2 center or at least a top 6 winger with speed and offensive touch. That is a lot to give up.
If you want a 1RHD, you're gonna have to give up something you don't want. Otherwise, you can wait for 4 or 5 years to see if Salmon develops into a 1RHD.
 
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If you want a 1RHD, you're gonna have to give up something you don't want. Otherwise, you can wait for 4 or 5 years to see if Salmon develops into a 1RHD.
So what RHD are we going to get? The only real one available is Tanev or Walker and it goes down from there. That doesn't cost your top prospects. Andersson is a pipe dream posted as click bait. He isn't on any trade bait lists nor has there been any credible sources saying he is available, just that Calgary has been rejecting offers for him. Calgary isn't trading him for picks and prospects at the TDL. If they move him it will be in a hockey trade for good young now players.
 

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So what RHD are we going to get? The only real one available is Tanev or Walker and it goes down from there. That doesn't cost your top prospects. Andersson is a pipe dream posted as click bait. He isn't on any trade bait lists nor has there been any credible sources saying he is available, just that Calgary has been rejecting offers for him. Calgary isn't trading him for picks and prospects at the TDL. If they move him it will be in a hockey trade for good young now players.
The comment of mine that you responded to was regarding Andersson.
I know it is a pipe dream but if the deal was involving Andersson and they wanted Lambert, I'd do it if the rest of the deal was okay.
 
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If you want a 1RHD, you're gonna have to give up something you don't want. Otherwise, you can wait for 4 or 5 years to see if Salmon develops into a 1RHD.
There's a heavy focus for teams to draft RHD for this exact reason...

The only RHD of value that could be available is Justin Barron - then hope that the Jets are the change of scenery he needs
 
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There's a heavy focus for teams to draft RHD for this exact reason...

The only RHD of value that could be available is Justin Barron - then hope that the Jets are the change of scenery he needs
Nobody knows who is going to be available...nobody on this board anyway.
 

KingBogo

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The comment of mine that you responded to was regarding Andersson.
I know it is a pipe dream but if the deal was involving Andersson and they wanted Lambert, I'd do it if the rest of the deal was okay.
I guess, but that is not who they will be asking for. Much more likely they would be looking at Perfetti or Vilardi or maybe Ehlers or something like that to get the conversation started. Andersson isn't a rental but rather a top pairing RHD in his prime with term.
 
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