Rumor: All Purpose Trade Proposals, Speculation and Rumours - 2023/24

[Joe Hallenback]

I don't think they sign Monahan. I think they give one of McGroarty/Lambert a shot at playing center. They have Names signed so I could see them flipping spots in the lineup. If you sign Monahan long term you are effectively blocking out 3 of your center spots. I mean unless he just blows the doors off and decides to sign a friendly 3 year deal or something I can't see him coming back

 

[abax44]

Chef - Connor- Vilardi
Mono - Ehlers - Perf
Lows - Nino - Names
Kup - Barron - Apples

Look big/strong down the middle.

"Big down the middle"... proceeds to put the centres on the left.

 

[abax44]

Is there a legitimate chance that McG and/or Lambert are in the NHL next year? I'd think Lambert has at least a chance given he's on the Moose and having a good year.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I think you're under-estimating Chevy's 2C PTSD... he lost Stas then PLD was a dud. If Monahan stays healthy this season, I could easily see a 5-6 year deal offered. Really seems like Perfetti is not going to be developed as a C and while I have high hopes for Lambert, that's a big ask next year.

Lambert is not the only C option and we need players on ELCs to manage the cap.

I'm seeing Monahan as a pure rental. If he does well the rest of the year I expect he will get a nice contract somewhere else.

 

[tbcwpg]

Is there a legitimate chance that McG and/or Lambert are in the NHL next year? I'd think Lambert has at least a chance given he's on the Moose and having a good year.

Maybe, I don't think full time though. There is only 1 forward not under contract or an RFA next year and he was just acquired, and the Jets aren't really known for moving players out to make room for prospects.

 

[WolfHouse]

Lambert is not the only C option and we need players on ELCs to manage the cap.

I'm seeing Monahan as a pure rental. If he does well the rest of the year I expect he will get a nice contract somewhere else.

Aaaand the other C option that ACTUALLY is healthy and playing C is....?

 

[abax44]

Aaaand the other C option that ACTUALLY is healthy and playing C is....?

CJ Suess... duh.

 

[DRW204]

Is there a legitimate chance that McG and/or Lambert are in the NHL next year? I'd think Lambert has at least a chance given he's on the Moose and having a good year.

I'm gonna say atm no. There's no top 9 spot available unless one of them is 2C.

Also was thinking about signing and inserting Mcgroarty at the end of the year.... But even then I don't know if Bowness would trust a rookie on the Lowry line role (assuming he would bump Appleton)

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Aaaand the other C option that ACTUALLY is healthy and playing C is....?

Perfetti, Vilardi, McGroarty - not currently playing C. Irrelevant to future possibilities. Also longer shots Lucius, Zhilkin.

Sign Monahan for 1-2 years while developing C options. Assuming he does well though, I doubt he signs that short term.

 

[WolfHouse]

Perfetti, Vilardi, McGroarty - not currently playing C. Irrelevant to future possibilities. Also longer shots Lucius, Zhilkin.

Sign Monahan for 1-2 years while developing C options. Assuming he does well though, I doubt he signs that short term.

This was the argument last offseason when we declared Perfetti as the 2C and that lasted about a week... Lucius and Zhilkin are not playing in the NHL any time soon. As long as Bones is coach, Vilardi and Perfetti are wingers.

They'll give Kupari a long look at 4C next season before calling anyone up.

If Monahan actually plays bumper the way he did in Montreal, Chevy tries his best to sign him for the window... that's all this team is missing.

 

[surixon]

This was the argument last offseason when we declared Perfetti as the 2C and that lasted about a week... Lucius and Zhilkin are not playing in the NHL any time soon. As long as Bones is coach, Vilardi and Perfetti are wingers.

They'll give Kupari a long look at 4C next season before calling anyone up.

If Monahan actually plays bumper the way he did in Montreal, Chevy tries his best to sign him for the window... that's all this team is missing.

Bones may not be HC next year. There is a team option but he may elect to retire. If Arniel is coach we could see a different mindset.

 

[WolfHouse]

Bones may not be HC next year. There is a team option but he may elect to retire. If Arniel is coach we could see a different mindset.

I know you're hanging onto the Perfetti 2C dream but Bones is not retiring from the sounds of his pre-Allstar presser and Arniel is not fixing something that isn't broken.

If our power play suddenly produces, only HFBoards would let Monahan walk...

 

[surixon]

I know you're hanging onto the Perfetti 2C dream but Bones is not retiring from the sounds of his pre-Allstar presser and Arniel is not fixing something that isn't broken.

If our power play suddenly produces, only HFBoards would let Monahan walk...

There is a thing called the cap that will impact what the org does and does not do in the offseason. It won't be easy to find space for an extra $5 million to keep Sean.

If he fits I'm not opposed to keeping him, but we are going to have to make some big subtraction's elsewhere.

 

[Buffdog]

I think they break the young guys in on the wing, seems like they always have. Probably see a very similar forward group to the one we have now to start next season. They'll slow-roll the kids on the Moose, give them big minutes and pp time, etc

 

[WolfHouse]

There is a thing called the cap that will impact what the org does and does not do in the offseason. It won't be easy to find space for an extra $5 million to keep Sean.

If he fits I'm not opposed to keeping him, but we are going to have to make some big subtraction's elsewhere.

I might be wrong but I think we could buyout Schmidt for 2m and 2m which clears the space - maybe you have to move on from Dillon

 

[DRW204]

What teams have more depth at D?


Amazing journey for Toni. Going from top 6 to waiver fodder.

Update: they're keeping Toninato

 

[MelikeJets]

I read recently that McG is NHL ready now (sorry I can't remember where). Will he start 2nd or 3rd line if he comes up?

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Those athletic cards tend to overrate 3rd pair D a bit. I like Tanev just think this team may benefit with a bit more offense from the back end, rather than another defensive specialist.

Id been a proponent of Chychrun if truly available. Probably becomes our 2nd best D, is signed for another year+young enough to build with, and versatility playing both sides. IMO the juice is worth the squeeze with him vs Tanev. And I think his skillset is more of what we're missing.

I'd be all aboard the Chychrun train if he was a RHS. Sure, he can play both sides but I expect he is better on his natural side. If I am going to pay the kind of price he will fetch I want a real solution, not a square peg in a round hole.

 

[DRW204]

I read recently that McG is NHL ready now (sorry I can't remember where). Will he start 2nd or 3rd line if he comes up?

Probably not 2nd line.
3rd line possible? But I don't think Mcgroarty would be trusted over nino or appleton (assuming on the wing) in that line's role/duties.

 

[Flair Hay]

I'm gonna say atm no. There's no top 9 spot available unless one of them is 2C.

Also was thinking about signing and inserting Mcgroarty at the end of the year.... But even then I don't know if Bowness would trust a rookie on the Lowry line role (assuming he would bump Appleton)

Likely not, you're right. I'm filing it in the "never say never" category haha. He just lives Appleton too much I think.

I'd be all aboard the Chychrun train if he was a RHS. Sure, he can play both sides but I expect he is better on his natural side. If I am going to pay the kind of price he will fetch I want a real solution, not a square peg in a round hole.

The Sens fans I asked said he was real bad defensively on his off side too. Cpyotes fans too. That cooled my Jets on him when I heard that.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

This was the argument last offseason when we declared Perfetti as the 2C and that lasted about a week... Lucius and Zhilkin are not playing in the NHL any time soon. As long as Bones is coach, Vilardi and Perfetti are wingers.

They'll give Kupari a long look at 4C next season before calling anyone up.

If Monahan actually plays bumper the way he did in Montreal, Chevy tries his best to sign him for the window... that's all this team is missing.

And it will continue to be the argument until we develop a 2C.

I think our PP problem is more coaching than personnel. Monahan might lead to a small improvement.

I'm not concerned with 4C.

I don't think we can afford a long term, big $$$ commitment to a PP specialist. We have Dillon and DeMelo to extend, a backup goalie to sign and Perfetti needs a raise. We have only 1 NHL Dman under contract past next year. Filling those spots is going to cost.

If Monahan manages to play well at 5v5 and in the D zone as well as on the PP I would be more willing to pay what he will want. We'll see about that.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

True, that's possible. However id say Chychrun would be worth it bc his upside and ceiling is much higher + a long term player for us. He also fits the usual defenseman split that Bowness seems to like, if replacing Schmidt.

This year: pair him with Samberg. And when down in games, you can elevate him to play with Pionk (or Morrissey)

Next season: Dillon may walk and Chychrun slides in perfectly at 2LD.

I'm hoping/assuming that Dillon will be extended until he is not. If not, then Snerg moves up a notch and we need a 3LD. But yes, Chychrun would be good there.

Then the question of extending Chychrun comes up. And there is his health. How long is that likely to last?

 

[FlappyGiraffe]

Seeing AJF is on waivers

 

[surixon]

I might be wrong but I think we could buyout Schmidt for 2m and 2m which clears the space - maybe you have to move on from Dillon

You can, and i expect they will buy him out but you also have to account for Perfetti's raise on top of the Helle and Scheifele raises. It will be tight.

I can't see the org wanting to lose too much on our backend given the strength of the team has been its team defense.

I expect Schmidt to be replaced by Ville but my guess is they try to bring both Dillion and DeMelo back.

 

[Wpgpage]

While I don't believe they will do it before the offseason at the absolute earliest I think Iffallo could be moved fairly easily especially if the Jets are willing to retain 25% which for one year you are probably ok with if you absolutely have to do it.

If and it is a big if Monny is a really strong fit and you need to shell out 4-5 to keep him in the fold then I think that's a fairly easy move to make.


On the subject of Perfetti what do people think he will get? Is the Tippitt contract a decent comparable?