Rumor: All Purpose Trade Proposals, Speculation and Rumours - 2023/24

[gojetsgo]

So, likely called up right after the break. I hope he doesn't just sit.

I'd bet he stays on the moose and comes up if/when an injury happens

 

[DRW204]

Weird they keep them as third pairing then.

If they’re one of the best pairings in the whole nhl - what a terrible coaching decision to not give them more ice time.

Or maybe Samberg paired with anyone is extremely high defensively

And - they are sheltered minutes against teams 3rd and 4th lines.

Don’t get me wrong, still great and impressive how they are doing. I think it needs some context and worth calling out some defensive numbers actually improved when Schmidt was out and Stanley and Chisholm were in.

samberg wont play ahead of morrissey. he-schmidt should be playing a bit more though at probably dillon-pionk's expense. however, it's not like the 2nd pair has been really bad. at 5v5: Samberg is at 12:52 per gp, Dillon is at 15:33. can another minute+ or so from dillon/2nd pair go to the third pair? probably

as for defensively, the Jets w/ samberg + either chisholm or stanley perform worse than samberg-schmidt in CA/60 and xGA/60, granted v small minutes probably not enough to conclude how bad or good they are.

using 355 mins (minimum of 10% less of samberg-schmidt) they're the 2nd best pair in the league in-terms of xGA/60 (ofc contextual factors you mention like linemates or comp play a role).

looking at last season:
dillion-schmidt were the best defensive pair on the Jets (2.13 xGA/60).
samberg-schmidt were the 2nd best (2.48 xGA/60). a lot of their xGF% value come from their xGF which i think can be argued is more of an influence from the Fwds you're playing with.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I'd bet he stays on the moose and comes up if/when an injury happens

Makes sense if they are not going to play him right away. Let him stay game ready. The starting 6 has been good enough so far that there really isn't a spot for him anymore.

 

[jgimp]

I put Heinola, Barlow and a 1st for Jiricek and Jenner on the main boards. Not enough for both probably?

Mine on CF was Salo/Lambert/1st/2nd/Iafallo(to be flipped for another pick/prospect) for the two and there was zero interest.

 

[10Ducky10]

Iaffollo goes in for Kup

I forgot all about him.

 

[gojetsgo]

fack

 

[DRW204]

fack

dang. Vancouver's top-6 is pretty darn solid as is.

 

[gojetsgo]

 

[WolfHouse]

What do you offer a guy to go from potential Stanley Cup to a disaster of a team...

 

[gojetsgo]

so maybe they have 2 deals in place if he doesn't waive?

 

[gojetsgo]

 

[FlappyGiraffe]

I wanted Lindholm, but if Calgary wasn't looking for picks/prospects I don't think we had the horses

 

[gojetsgo]

 

[Buffdog]

I would have like Lindholm at the right price but I'm also kind of happy he's off the board

Chevy will pull a deal out of his ass that nobody saw coming

 

[Gabe Kupari]

Swedes in Vancouver. No kidding

Jets need a Minnesota kid to counter. (Mitts)

 

[Howard Chuck]

I’ve learned to not even try to guess who Chevy goes for. He is always pulling off great deals from left field.

 

[JetsFan815]

If the rumored price of Kuzmenko, 1st + Brzustewicz is right than the equivanent offer from the Jets would be our 1st, Salmonsson and one of Iafallo/Appleton if we are a looking at equivalent assets. Kuzmenko has more upside than either of Iafallo or Appleton so I'd have taken that offer too if I was the Flames.

I don't want Salmonsson traded for a rental anyways. Canucks have more D prospects than the Jets and can thus bear the loss of Hunter B better.

 

[DRW204]

This trade is basically a reverse horvat?

 

[gojetsgo]

 

[Joe Hallenback]

If the rumored price of Kuzmenko, 1st + Brzustewicz is right than the equivanent offer from the Jets would be our 1st, Salmonsson and one of Iafallo/Appleton if we are a looking at equivalent assets. Kuzmenko has more upside than either of Iafallo or Appleton so I'd have taken that offer too if I was the Flames.

I don't want Salmonsson traded for a rental anyways. Canucks have more D prospects than the Jets and can thus bear the loss of Hunter B better.

I don't know. Kuzmenko is coming off a 70+ point season. Granted I don't think he is a 70+ point guy but its like he is a 40 to 50 winger going forward. Not sure if we have the equivalent player to give up in a deal.

 

[DRW204]

have acquired Andrei Kuzmenko, a 2024 first round pick, Hunter Brzustewicz, Joni Jurmo and a conditional 2024 fourth round pick from the Vancouver Canucks in exchange for Elias Lindholm:

 

[Joe Hallenback]

I think that is a good haul for Calgary. Not sure if we could match that or would want too

 

[Tasteless Beaver]

We definitely wouldn't match the Vancouver offer, given that they sent a good roster player the other way. Disappointing, but there are still lots of good trade targets for us.

 

[JetsFan815]

I don't know. Kuzmenko is coming off a 70+ point season. Granted I don't think he is a 70+ point guy but its like he is a 40 to 50 winger going forward. Not sure if we have the equivalent player to give up in a deal.

Appleton and Iafallo are close esp if you just consider this season and their better caphits. But I agree, Kuzmenko definitely has more upside.

 

[10Ducky10]

Glad we didn't give up that much for a rental.