Rumor: All Purpose Trade Proposals, Speculation and Rumours - 2023/24

[Hobble]

Chevy trades for Crosby and signs Toews for 1 year. Jets win the Cup on intangibles alone.

 

[HellebuyckOurSaviour]

What about Schmaltz + 3rd for Iafallo, Stanley and a 2nd

 

[JetsFan815]

What about Schmaltz + 3rd for Iafallo, Stanley and a 2nd

What is the Coyotes' interest in that deal?

 

[kylbaz]

What about Schmaltz + 3rd for Iafallo, Stanley and a 2nd

Two assets that aren't worth anything.

 

[tbcwpg]

Couts is the dream if Philly continues to fall. 6'4 selke winner, signed long term and the same age as scheif

If they do decide to sell, long term assets aren't the pieces they're going to move. If they're on the line this year they'll have belief that they're close to a consistent playoff team and won't want to move contributing assets signed long term.

 

[kylbaz]

Kinda liking the idea of Giroux, those that mentioned him. Give us a two year run with him.

 

[Thechozen1]

Quick glance seems like Calgary did really well on the return.

Vancouver no doubt gets a lot stronger down the middle but they really paid up in doing so.

Sucks Lindholm is off the board, but lots of time for Chevy to pivot.

 

[Atoyot]

Couts is the dream if Philly continues to fall. 6'4 selke winner, signed long term and the same age as scheif

I can't even imagine what he would cost. They'd demand McGroarty+ and they'd be justified in doing so.

 

[Fire Chevy]

What about Schmaltz + 3rd for Iafallo, Stanley and a 2nd

This remind me of all those Hylak Ryder deals you would see but idk about Schmaltz he would 100% be an upgrade just I assume it would cost a lot my money is on Mitts

 

[King Woodballs]

Can anyone ELI5 in terms of what a comparable return the Jets would have given up?

 

[Mad Dog Tannen]

Can anyone ELI5 in terms of what a comparable return the Jets would have given up?

It would look different as we don’t have a kuzmetzov.

A 1st, a 4th, Chisholm/stanley = Hunter, Iafallo + Barron maybe for Kuz, and throw in a prospect no one cares about and that won’t make the nhl.

Not exactly the same. Wpg doesn’t have a piece like Kuz that scored 39 goals last year and has upside.

It really worked out as a hockey trade for both teams. Canucks didn’t need or want Kuz, and got to dump salary in moving him. It would have been like if Calgary really needed a Schmidt - we don’t really need him, and it would benefit us to move him to free up salary. Plus you get Lindholm.

I think Canucks are gonna be scary good now.

I wonder if that’s part of the reason why we waivered Chisholm. We were likely in talks but couldn’t compete cause we didn’t have the right pieces.

 

[Hunter368]

Evaluating the Lindholm trade, it all depends how you see Kuz. From what I’ve seen most think he has little value in that trade. So Lindholm return was a late 1st, B level prospect, meh prospect, conditional 4th, low value roster player (winger).


I was expecting Lindholm value to be a late 1st, a very good prospect (A leveL, albeit not a blue chip), mid range pick/low level prospect.

In the end I was fairly close in value, maybe I was expecting a hair higher quality and bit less quantity.

Some fans out there think Lindholm return just increased their centres value their team wants to trade but I’m not so sure the Lindholm trade increases the return on other centres………albeit his trade means one less center available.

Also have to wonder about a guy like Monahan, are GMs going to trade for hIm sooner to get a centre or wait to last second to make sure he doesn’t get hurt.

Love the TDL, fun times

 

[Mad Dog Tannen]

Evaluating the Lindholm trade, it all depends how you see Kuz. From what I’ve seen most think he has little value in that trade. So Lindholm return was a late 1st, B level prospect, meh prospect, conditional 4th, low value roster player (winger).


I was expecting Lindholm value to be a late 1st, a very good prospect (A leveL, albeit not a blue chip), mid range pick/low level prospect.

In the end I was fairly close in value, maybe I was expecting a hair higher quality and bit less quantity.

Some fans out there think Lindholm return just increased their centres value their team wants to trade but I’m not so sure the Lindholm trade increases the return on other centres………albeit his trade means one less center available.

Also have to wonder about a guy like Monahan, are GMs going to trade for hIm sooner to get a centre or wait to last second to make sure he doesn’t get hurt.

Love the TDL, fun times

Good summary.

The view on Kuz - it’s why I think Calgary must have valued him more than some on the board here. Otherwise it feels like we could have been able to beat that offer without it stinging too much.

I think both teams got what they wanted out of the trade. No real winners/losers yet.

 

[Hunter368]

Good summary.

The view on Kuz - it’s why I think Calgary must have valued him more than some on the board here. Otherwise it feels like we could have been able to beat that offer without it stinging too much.

I think both teams got what they wanted out of the trade. No real winners/losers yet.

It was reported last night, Flames were asked to take Kuz due to his contract to make the trade work, they didn’t target him in the return. That’s why most are saying Kuz was a cap dump or low value piece from what I’ve read.

 

[10Ducky10]

Most of the points are Pp1 he’s not taking any one spots and he’s not great defensively and to slow in my opinion I’d rather if we spend the assets go big

What makes you say? He is a poor defensively?
His point total 5 VS 5 is 1 of the highest in the league.
His cost would be way too high and he is lose to being an UFA.

 

[DRW204]

I don't think that's true. I think we've hit a cold patch and over correcting can do more damage than sticking the course. Having Scheifele in the lineup won't make Connor hit more of the grade A chances he's getting, he's just a streaky scorer. You can play that Toronto game 100 times and you wouldn't get shutout 99 of those times. If we're playing well and getting chances the goals will come. (Note this doesn't apply to the powerplay which continues to be a trainwreck)

This is what happened last year, we went on a stretch where we were getting chances but they weren't going in, then we tried to flip everything on its head and suddenly we weren't getting chances anymore in addition to not scoring.

So Connor playing with scheifele as opposed to the likes of Lowry, toninato etc at even strength or on the PP is the same for his scoring? Ok

 

[Jet]

With the way things might be going in the Central and Vancouver/Oilers you might be better off not dumping assets this year

I'm not really concerned about the Canucks. I still feel like they're going to come back to earth in the second half and even if not, they're pretty playoff inexperienced.

The Oilers concern me a bit more, but Skinner is going to regress at some point.

 

[Jet]

Yeah I highly doubt we got another soft rental center I think Chevy goes for someone off the board my prayer is Mitts but Monahan does nothing for us

I'm really warming up to Middlestadt. However, if almost guarantee that Heinola will be the key piece going back, along with our 1st and one of our A Prospects.

I'd be a bit sad if we never got to see what heinola could be for us, but if that a prospect is Lucious I'd do that deal mainly because we still have team control with Mids and is live to see him between perf and nik

 

[Mad Dog Tannen]

It was reported last night, Flames were asked to take Kuz due to his contract to make the trade work, they didn’t target him in the return. That’s why most are saying Kuz was a cap dump or low value piece from what I’ve read.

Wow. That’s even more disappointing. lol.

If iKuz was viewed as a negative from Calgary….i feel we could have been competitive there. Too bad.

 

[surixon]

I'm really warming up to Middlestadt. However, if almost guarantee that Heinola will be the key piece going back, along with our 1st and one of our A Prospects.

I'd be a bit sad if we never got to see what heinola could be for us, but if that a prospect is Lucious I'd do that deal mainly because we still have team control with Mids and is live to see him between perf and nik

I still don't see why they'd trade a young player that fits their core groups window.

 

[Mad Dog Tannen]

I'm not really concerned about the Canucks. I still feel like they're going to come back to earth in the second half and even if not, they're pretty playoff inexperienced.

The Oilers concern me a bit more, but Skinner is going to regress at some point.

I remember feeling that same way about Vegas in 17-18. They may fall back - but it’s February - I think more or less we are seeing the team they are.

 

[Jet]

Henrique has been my target for a while now. Solid defense to go with good faceoffs and some scoring touch. From a style of game perspective he's the ideal fit imo. Well Giroux would be better but he'd be very costly.



Yup, do people forget we went ice cold with him the lineup last year as well. This is just our shooting percentage correcting itself from earlier in the year where we scored well above expected.

There are lots of options out there

Henrique, Giroux, Middlestadt, Jenner, even Granlund.

Of course Chevy is going to pull something out of his ass that we didn't expect.

Now really isn't the time to make the deal anyway. More teams will be out - and less teams this year have strong capital to make deals.

I think the market will be soft.

 

[KingBogo]

It was reported last night, Flames were asked to take Kuz due to his contract to make the trade work, they didn’t target him in the return. That’s why most are saying Kuz was a cap dump or low value piece from what I’ve read.

Not sure why people are calling Kuzmenko a low value return? The guy isn't 28 y/o until later this month and is coming off a 39 G 35 A 74 P season. The Jets sure could use a "low value" player like that for our top 6 who can push 40 goals with a decent cap hit. Much better roster player than is usually part of these type of rental deals. And Bruzustewicz is a hell of a nice prospect to pick up. A 19 y/o RHD who is leading the OHL in defenseman scoring with 69 points in 47 games. I'm guessing most GMs would prefer him over Solamonnson in a trade. And the 1st is a 1st, plus a couple other pieces. No way Chevy could match that for a rental.

 

[WolfHouse]

Evaluating the Lindholm trade, it all depends how you see Kuz. From what I’ve seen most think he has little value in that trade. So Lindholm return was a late 1st, B level prospect, meh prospect, conditional 4th, low value roster player (winger).


I was expecting Lindholm value to be a late 1st, a very good prospect (A leveL, albeit not a blue chip), mid range pick/low level prospect.

In the end I was fairly close in value, maybe I was expecting a hair higher quality and bit less quantity.

Some fans out there think Lindholm return just increased their centres value their team wants to trade but I’m not so sure the Lindholm trade increases the return on other centres………albeit his trade means one less center available.

Also have to wonder about a guy like Monahan, are GMs going to trade for hIm sooner to get a centre or wait to last second to make sure he doesn’t get hurt.

Love the TDL, fun times

I'd measure it as
1st, iafallo or Schmidt, zhilkin or kuzmin, parker ford, cond 4th

 

[Fire Chevy]

I still don't see why they'd trade a young player that fits their core groups window.

My only guess is he doesn’t want to extend as he wants to go to a winning team or doesn’t want to play 3C behind Cozens and Thompson is my guess if he extended I would offer 1st Heinola, Lambert he would solve our top 6