Rumor: All Purpose Trade Proposals, Speculation and Rumours - 2023/24

[10Ducky10]

I'm really warming up to Middlestadt. However, if almost guarantee that Heinola will be the key piece going back, along with our 1st and one of our A Prospects.

I'd be a bit sad if we never got to see what heinola could be for us, but if that a prospect is Lucious I'd do that deal mainly because we still have team control with Mids and is live to see him between perf and nik

Buffalo has lots of LHD. They need RHD and quality bottom six players.
Probably aren't interested in a 1st either.
They'd want players.
Nino, Barron and Salmon might get it done but who wants to trade Salmon.
Again, Mitts is close to UFA, so he'd have to be extended in my opinion.
Mitts would cost too much.

 

[Jet]

I still don't see why they'd trade a young player that fits their core groups window.

I think they might want to shake it up a bit. You may be right, but they have a very young and strong C group. They'd still have Cozens, Krebs and Thompson - I'd say that Mids is the one of those 4 that is the easiest to let go.

Plus, his name is being tossed around, maybe smoke = fire?

 

[surixon]

Buffalo has lots of LHD. They need RHD and quality bottom six players.
Probably aren't interested in a 1st either.
They'd want players.
Nino, Barron and Salmon might get it done but who wants to trade Salmon.
Again, Mitts is close to UFA, so he'd have to be extended in my opinion.
Mitts would cost too much.

Yeah, I'm not really sure we have the pieces they'd want for him. They have all the young forwards they need and they have the LD spot covered.

 

[Jet]

I remember feeling that same way about Vegas in 17-18. They may fall back - but it’s February - I think more or less we are seeing the team they are.

The difference is the advanced stats. I guess we will find out

 

[surixon]

I think they might want to shake it up a bit. You may be right, but they have a very young and strong C group. They'd still have Cozens, Krebs and Thompson - I'd say that Mids is the one of those 4 that is the easiest to let go.

Plus, his name is being tossed around, maybe smoke = fire?

Possibly, but as mentioned they are stacked at LD as well as with young forwards (pretty much where the strength of our prospect pool lies)

 

[WolfHouse]

I don't see any scenario where buffalo trades mittelstadt - they'll try to ditch a couple old guys

 

[Jet]

Buffalo has lots of LHD. They need RHD and quality bottom six players.
Probably aren't interested in a 1st either.
They'd want players.
Nino, Barron and Salmon might get it done but who wants to trade Salmon.
Again, Mitts is close to UFA, so he'd have to be extended in my opinion.
Mitts would cost too much.

He's still an rfa. Sure, you could have a scenario where he gets an arb award to FA but I feel like if Chevy right he was trying to walk to fa he'd get something for him

 

[10Ducky10]

He's still an rfa. Sure, you could have a scenario where he gets an arb award to FA but I feel like if Chevy right he was trying to walk to fa he'd get something for him

I would love him on the team, but I just don't see it happening.

 

[Jet]

I would love him on the team, but I just don't see it happening.

Yeah, you're probably right

Sorry for pushing it so hard - I feel like that asshole who keeps trying to push for Konecny

 

[Fire Chevy]

Yeah, you're probably right

Sorry for pushing it so hard - I feel like that asshole who keeps trying to push for Konecny

Don’t I’m on board with you I’d love to have Mitts maybe Chevy can pull another PLD but yeah we’re not the best trade partners on another note I see MTL think their getting Mcgroarty or Lambert for Monahan

 

[Mad Dog Tannen]

Yeah, you're probably right

Sorry for pushing it so hard - I feel like that asshole who keeps trying to push for Konecny

It’s okay to dream though!

I’m worried it’s going to be a disappointing March 9th.

I foresee a few depth pieces. I’m not sure we will land Henrique. We had a really good shot at Lindholm if Colorado and Boston were out two main competitors. Vancouver had assets to push it to a price that was likely too much for us.

The competition for Henrique and monahan will be fierce with the rangers now jumping in. I don’t think monahan will be worth whatever the price ends up being.

Need a Chevy miracle - fingers crossed.

 

[Hunter368]

Not sure why people are calling Kuzmenko a low value return? The guy isn't 28 y/o until later this month and is coming off a 39 G 35 A 74 P season. The Jets sure could use a "low value" player like that for our top 6 who can push 40 goals with a decent cap hit. Much better roster player than is usually part of these type of rental deals. And Bruzustewicz is a hell of a nice prospect to pick up. A 19 y/o RHD who is leading the OHL in defenseman scoring with 69 points in 47 games. I'm guessing most GMs would prefer him over Solamonnson in a trade. And the 1st is a 1st, plus a couple other pieces. No way Chevy could match that for a rental.

I'm not selling or buying the Kuz point, I'm just repeating it rightly or wrongly. Last year he was good, this year he's likely low value bc if he's not scoring at a high rate then he's not great (imagine KC only producing at a 45-50 pt pace, not great).

Rest of the offer the Jets could match or beat if they wanted to, I'm not upset by missing out on Lindholm, I trust Chevy knows the prices and felt he can get better value else where. Pivot to the next target, I still think there's multi very good targets out there available now or soon.

 

[jgimp]

Wow. That’s even more disappointing. lol.

If iKuz was viewed as a negative from Calgary….i feel we could have been competitive there. Too bad.

This leads me to believe that Chevy has his focus on someone off the board. I think we could have beaten that offer given no cap dump going back, or Calgary targeted Hunter and went in that direction.
But as a whole, I think Chevy pulls a rabbit out of a hat with a complete out of left field trade no one saw coming.

 

[Whileee]

The weeks heading up to the TDL are silly season for fans and online discussions. There are going to be so many unrealistic takes, and gnashing of teeth as fans want any kind of action just to break the boredom. But there are lots of mistakes made at the TDL, and luckily Chevy has managed to avoid it most of the time. Historically, he's actually had a very strong record at the TDL...

Stempniak
Ladd (fading fast) for 1st and prospect
Stastny
Hayes? {not a bad idea, but Maurice didn't have confidence}
Copp for a haul
Nino / Namestnikov for 2nd and 4th

I have a hunch that Chevy won't go all out unless it really makes sense, and won't trade top prospects if it's just a rental. Instead, I expect trades for depth players, like maybe Bjugstad as a RC that takes a lot of face-offs and can create offense.

If they take a bigger swing, maybe a player like Schmaltz, who could juice the middle 6 and shoots R (Yotes might want to move him because his actual salary escalates to way above his cap hit in the next two years).

 

[Atoyot]

So Connor playing with scheifele as opposed to the likes of Lowry, toninato etc at even strength or on the PP is the same for his scoring? Ok

Yep that's what I said. Exactly that.

 

[DRW204]

Yep that's what I said. Exactly that.

Might want to check the stats on that.
As well as last year was never really a chances generated problem, assuming you mean toward the back half or quarter of the year.

 

[Gm0ney]

Not sure why people are calling Kuzmenko a low value return? The guy isn't 28 y/o until later this month and is coming off a 39 G 35 A 74 P season. The Jets sure could use a "low value" player like that for our top 6 who can push 40 goals with a decent cap hit. Much better roster player than is usually part of these type of rental deals. And Bruzustewicz is a hell of a nice prospect to pick up. A 19 y/o RHD who is leading the OHL in defenseman scoring with 69 points in 47 games. I'm guessing most GMs would prefer him over Solamonnson in a trade. And the 1st is a 1st, plus a couple other pieces. No way Chevy could match that for a rental.

Kuzmenko was shooting 27.3% last season but just 12.7% this season. Bit of a red flag on those numbers he put up last year (he only scores 18 goals / 53 points last year if he's shooting 12.7%).

 

[gojetsgo]

the kuzmenko part of the trade is hard to gauge the value because he had such a good season last year and hasn't worked under tocchet this year, if he can regain his past form then calgary got a good asset they can move at next years deadline

 

[DRW204]

Kuzmenko was shooting 27.3% last season but just 12.7% this season. Bit of a red flag on those numbers he put up last year (he only scores 18 goals / 53 points last year if he's shooting 12.7%).

His play style (lots of tips, deflections) and low shot volume basically makes it real boom or bust for goals.

 

[WaveRaven]

Put me in the Schmaltz camp. He'd be an excellent 2C here.

 

[Atoyot]

Might want to check the stats on that.
As well as last year was never really a chances generated problem, assuming you mean toward the back half or quarter of the year.

I was being sarcastic.

 

[bumblebeeman]

He probably isn't available since he just signed, but do you guys think Ryan O'reilly would be a good fit? Might have to over pay at bit since he has been hot this year. But he was one of the best 2-way centers, and is still producing well. Getting kind of old now at 32 and signed for 3 more years after this at 4.5 million cap hit

 

[Romang67]

He probably isn't available since he just signed, but do you guys think Ryan O'reilly would be a good fit? Might have to over pay at bit since he has been hot this year. But he was one of the best 2-way centers, and is still producing well. Getting kind of old now at 32 and signed for 3 more years after this at 4.5 million cap hit

I don't think he's available, but I think he'd be a good fit as the #2C on basically any team. ROR is a great hockey player. Worse driver.

 

[Crocket]

Buffalo would probably move Skinner and retain some salary for the right prospect. He does have a NMC. Not sure he fits with us as a left wing but he sure would add scoring depth, pp scoring.

I like Henrique as a 2C add, but I know Chevy is big on culture fit first so it's hard to say what conversations are happening and who they like.

If we're healthy, we are solid. That's a big if though.

 

[10Ducky10]

Yeah, you're probably right

Sorry for pushing it so hard - I feel like that asshole who keeps trying to push for Konecny

Nope, just an asshole...