Rumor: All Purpose Trade Proposals, Speculation and Rumours - 2023/24

[Maukkis]

My Guesses for acquired players at the deadline:

RD - Artem Zub (28) from Ottawa (3 more years at $4.8m per year)
C - Brock Nelson (32) from Islanders (1 more year at $6m)

Not going to speculate on the cost.

Can't see Ottawa giving up Zub for anything reasonable, but then again, I also had them as a bubble team for this year. He'd be a nice upgrade over what we have at RHD.

Could be a good pond to fish in, those dogshit teams with good pieces, terrible management, and a lack of patience big enough to make them do desperate stuff.

 

[KingBogo]

If there was an extension in place and they wanted McG would you do it?

I don't think there is any chance Chevy moves McGroarty, as he represents an impact player that can likely come in on his ELC and play an important role allowing him to move out some of the over paid middle range players and pay for his core players that will need raises over the next couple years. Any potential big contracts coming in will impact the signings of Perfetti Vilardi, Ehlers and Connor over the next couple seasons.

That guy has been healthy scratched multiple times this season and shot an unsustainable 27% last year. Looks like he isnt playing the game the way Tocchet wants and taking him off the 100 point centres line seriously impacted his point totals.
Currently on pace for 18 goals and 37 points.

But he is worth a shot because of upside in a different situation. Being able to score 40 goals isn't nothing. Usually roster players included with the 1st and top prospect for rentals are guys with bloated salaries and no upside.

 

[RabidOne]

Don’t I’m on board with you I’d love to have Mitts maybe Chevy can pull another PLD but yeah we’re not the best trade partners on another note I see MTL think their getting Mcgroarty or Lambert for Monahan

Habs fans are delusional.

 

[Hunter368]

Habs fans are delusional, you would think they would of learned their lessons last year. They aren't getting Barlow or McG or Lambert or Salomonsson, doesn't matter I don't think Chevy has any interest in Monahan

Reading their board, one poster actually thought the Jets would give up 1st & Lambert for Monahan. Yikes Chevy would be fired, tarred and feathered and chased out of town by fans with pitchforks if he did that trade.

I've said before, still believe Monahan could return anything from 2nd to late 1st type of value, just hope its not the Jets.

 

[RabidOne]

I don't think there is any chance Chevy moves McGroarty, as he represents an impact player that can likely come in on his ELC and play an important role allowing him to move out some of the over paid middle range players and pay for his core players that will need raises over the next couple years. Any potential big contracts coming in will impact the signings of Perfetti Vilardi, Ehlers and Connor over the next couple seasons.


But he is worth a shot because of upside in a different situation. Being able to score 40 goals isn't nothing. Usually roster players included with the 1st and top prospect for rentals are guys with bloated salaries and no upside.

Yes, 40 goals is certainly something. And Calgary is probably banking on some return to better than what he is doing this year in Vancouver. I think he us more like Gary Leeman or John Druce. He will probably hit 25/50, but I bet he never sniffs 40 goals again unless he gets to play with McDavid.

 

[RabidOne]

My Guesses for acquired players at the deadline:

RD - Artem Zub (28) from Ottawa (3 more years at $4.8m per year)
C - Brock Nelson (32) from Islanders (1 more year at $6m)

Not going to speculate on the cost.

Nelson is on my radar too.

 

[Buffdog]

I did a crazy thing last week and actually *gasp* watched a Habs game to eye-test Monahan.

Stats aside (this isn't a comment on that), I found his skating to be a little iffy but no worse than Vilardi. His hockey IQ was good

I'm not sure if he's a fit for our system, but he wouldn't be any worse than perfetti or vilardi if he bought in

Anyway, I don't think he's as bad as the stat-watchers in here think, nor is he as good as delusional Habs fans think. I'd take him, but ideally for our 2nd plus someone like rashevsky.

 

[Huffer]

For the Jets it will be interesting to see their strategy.

From a big game perspective for 2C, there isn't anything available "that we know for sure is available" that really moves the needle. Not saying that Names is amazing, but he's done a decent job this year and there doesn't seem like there are definite upgrades on him.

That being said, from a big game perspective if they are interested in the 2C position, one of those "not sure if available" guys would be good fits IMO. The Nelson, Jenner, Mitts, Norris, etc types.

But if nothing in that area materializes, maybe an upgrade on Appleton would be a nice target? I know Bones likes him, but if you could upgrade Apples with Nino and Lowry and move Apples to the 4th, I would think that would be a nice improvement. That player would need to be strong defensively but have more offense to contribute than Apples. Haven't looked to see what those options might be.

I did a crazy thing last week and actually *gasp* watched a Habs game to eye-test Monahan.

Stats aside (this isn't a comment on that), I found his skating to be a little iffy but no worse than Vilardi. His hockey IQ was good

I'm not sure if he's a fit for our system, but he wouldn't be any worse than perfetti or vilardi if he bought in

Anyway, I don't think he's as bad as the stat-watchers in here think, nor is he as good as delusional Habs fans think. I'd take him, but ideally for our 2nd plus someone like rashevsky.

I'm not 100% anti Monahan, it really comes down to fit (like to say) and role.

If he's not replacing Names (which is debatable), is he a fit to take Apples spot? Can he handle the defensive responsibilities on that line?

I like having depth, I think the question is, if everyone is healthy, where does he play?

 

[Hunter368]

I did a crazy thing last week and actually *gasp* watched a Habs game to eye-test Monahan.

Stats aside (this isn't a comment on that), I found his skating to be a little iffy but no worse than Vilardi. His hockey IQ was good

I'm not sure if he's a fit for our system, but he wouldn't be any worse than perfetti or vilardi if he bought in

Anyway, I don't think he's as bad as the stat-watchers in here think, nor is he as good as delusional Habs fans think. I'd take him, but ideally for our 2nd plus someone like rashevsky.

I've said before I would trade for Monahan, as you say he isn't as bad as his stats say but he's also not as good as some Habs think he is. I would trade for him, for the right price and if the price is conditional on his health/games played.

1st rd pick & A/B level prospect - Not in a million years, conditions or no conditions.

1st rd pick? No thx

2nd rd pick 2025? Maybe, with conditions added based on games played. Production aside (thats obvious) his best quality is his tiny cap hit and the fact we can add another 1-2 pieces after him. So while he's not a "great piece" he is a ok piece and dirt cheap.

 

[Jets]

Waiting for the absolute blockbuster to be announced where we send Schmidt + '24 1st + MTL 2nd + Iafallo + Lambert + Lucious + '25 1st to the Sharks for Hertl.

 

[bustamente]

Would love to see one of Tuch, Vatrano, or Jenner in a Jets jersey, it wont happen but each one of those players would help immensely.

 

[10Ducky10]

Jenner has never scored more than 49 points.

 

[Mad Dog Tannen]

I did a crazy thing last week and actually *gasp* watched a Habs game to eye-test Monahan.

Stats aside (this isn't a comment on that), I found his skating to be a little iffy but no worse than Vilardi. His hockey IQ was good

I'm not sure if he's a fit for our system, but he wouldn't be any worse than perfetti or vilardi if he bought in

Anyway, I don't think he's as bad as the stat-watchers in here think, nor is he as good as delusional Habs fans think. I'd take him, but ideally for our 2nd plus someone like rashevsky.

We won’t be worse with him. He’s a decent player. Just probably not worth a big over pay - and there are better options.

 

[DRW204]

Waiting for the absolute blockbuster to be announced where we send Schmidt + '24 1st + MTL 2nd + Iafallo + Lambert + Lucious + '25 1st to the Sharks for Hertl.

He's worth maybe half of that?

 

[10Ducky10]

He's worth maybe half of that?

Chevy isn't going to want Hertl's contract.
8.14m until 2030.

 

[jgimp]

If there was an extension in place and they wanted McG would you do it?

Doubtful. I think McG would bring so much to the locker room and team, something that appeared to be missing for so long. Also take into account his development curve and we may have hit a home run with him.
I think everyone else could be on the table given the right return though.

 

[KingBogo]

Doubtful. I think McG would bring so much to the locker room and team, something that appeared to be missing for so long. Also take into account his development curve and we may have hit a home run with him.
I think everyone else could be on the table given the right return though.

Depending on when Michigan's season ends, McGroarty might be an interesting add late in the season if he is willing to sign his ELC. From what I see, he is the closest prospect to being ready.

 

[10Ducky10]

If there was an extension in place and they wanted McG would you do it?

Mitts straight up for McG?
In a heartbeat, but Buffalo won't.
You'd need to add some serious bottom 6 help.

Mitts is hitting his peak and if he agreed to a deal something like 50m over 7 years, I wouldn't have to think about it for long.
He's their best player, in my opinion, and that's including Dahlin.

 

[surixon]

Why would Mitts sign here without testing it out first? When was the last time a player did a sign and trade with us.

 

[KingBogo]

Why would Mitts sign here without testing it out first? When was the last time a player did a sign and trade with us.

It’s never happened.

 

[bustamente]

Buffalo won't be trading perceived core player and Mittelstadt is probably one of them, they need another D and a goalie and they will be a much better team next year

 

[GaryPoppins]

There are a LOT of strong teams the Jets may have to get through to win the cup this year:

Colorado
Dallas
Edmonton
Vancouver
Vegas

Vancouver’s trade definitely has them as an extremely difficult out. Edmonton has Jesus and the others have star power that is likely over and above what we have.

Henrique and schmaltz both have 10 team no-trare lists. Maybe henrique waives to chase a cup for 3 months but I doubt schmaltz wants to move from Arizona to Winnipeg for 3 seasons

sounds like he’ll be moving from Arizona regardless. That team is gone from Phoenix after this year.

 

[Heldig]

Don’t I’m on board with you I’d love to have Mitts maybe Chevy can pull another PLD but yeah we’re not the best trade partners on another note I see MTL think their getting Mcgroarty or Lambert for Monahan

Really? Funny Habs fans.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Reading their board, one poster actually thought the Jets would give up 1st & Lambert for Monahan. Yikes Chevy would be fired, tarred and feathered and chased out of town by fans with pitchforks if he did that trade.

I've said before, still believe Monahan could return anything from 2nd to late 1st type of value, just hope its not the Jets.

That poster was me. And it was Monahan plus Harris. Haven't followed this draft closely but analysts have said it drops off after around 20 players. A late 1st is not going to be enough to get a player of value. Barlow, McGroarty, Lucius should all be ahead of Lambert. A 1st and the Jets 2nd would be reasonable for Monahan assuming the Jets even need a centre or a centre/winger.
At some point a team that's a contender has to be unafraid to lose a trade to get a missing piece or two. I doubt Monahan is that for the Jets. For a team missing 2 centres (Rangers) he could be one of them.

 

[gojetsgo]

That poster was me. And it was Monahan plus Harris. Haven't followed this draft closely but analysts have said it drops off after around 20 players. A late 1st is not going to be enough to get a player of value. Barlow, McGroarty, Lucius should all be ahead of Lambert. A 1st and the Jets 2nd would be reasonable for Monahan assuming the Jets even need a centre or a centre/winger.
At some point a team that's a contender has to be unafraid to lose a trade to get a missing piece or two. I doubt Monahan is that for the Jets. For a team missing 2 centres (Rangers) he could be one of them.

you heard him boys, two top 40 picks should be enough to get monahan... this is going to go over well, thanks for stoping by...