Proposal: All Bruins trade rumors/proposals: 16/17 Part V

[BruinDust]

Seem to mesh with Lucic just fine...same with Horton. Then again he played with them for more then a season. He's not going to turn trash into gold, so why try to keep forcing under talented players on his wings?

He also meshed well with Miro Satan, and he didn't have him for a winger more than half a season.

And he meshed with Horton in Horton's 1st season in Boston. Didn't take multiple seasons.

This reasoning (cough...excuses...cough) about Krejci and his wingers is absolute bunk.

 

[ON3M4N]

Just more excuses.

So him not skating hard is his "style"? Good lord.

I'm fine with them breaking up Bergeron and Marchand, I think they get too attached to it sometimes.

His skating hasn't changed, his compete level hasn't changed, what don't you understand about that? For his entire career he's made it look like he wasn't trying very hard, that's what drove me nuts about him early in his career.

He has had quality line-mates the vast majority of his career, even the last 3 years. So what once in awhile he had to play alongside a Griffith or a Schaller. Boo hoo. Poor Krejci.

Give me a break.

You realize you're making my point w/ this comment right? He's had quality line-mates for a good chunk of his career and was productive...now over the last few years the quality hasn't been as good and BOOM his production isn't as good. Go figure!

 

[ON3M4N]

He also meshed well with Miro Satan, and he didn't have him for a winger more than half a season.

And he meshed with Horton in Horton's 1st season in Boston. Didn't take multiple seasons.

This reasoning (cough...excuses...cough) about Krejci and his wingers is absolute bunk.

Horton was a hell of a lot better player than Schaller, Henien, Vatrano lol. Horton also was the 3rd man on that line. Krejci and Lucic has already built chemistry and Horton fed off of that.

 

[bp13]

my guess is that more than a few of these prospects will be moved via trade, not a bad problem to have but there`s more than just 1 or 2 who appear to be legit prospects and there`s not going to be room for all of them, think Dom or Kirk may have mentioned this as well in one of their great podcasts

Maybe tell the GM.

For the last two seasons this team has been on the cusp of the playoffs and also desperately needing to fill a few glaring holes AND change the locker room mix, and he hasn't moved a single prospect. As easy as it is to see he probably ought to, he isn't doing it. So either he doesn't share that opinion or he's not able to close, either way I'd be careful making any assumptions about that.

 

[BruinDust]

Horton was a hell of a lot better player than Schaller, Henien, Vatrano lol. Horton also was the 3rd man on that line. Krejci and Lucic has already built chemistry and Horton fed off of that.

What are you talking about? Your reasoning is getting more ridiculous by the minute.

 

[BruinDust]

His skating hasn't changed, his compete level hasn't changed, what don't you understand about that? For his entire career he's made it look like he wasn't trying very hard, that's what drove me nuts about him early in his career.



You realize you're making my point w/ this comment right? He's had quality line-mates for a good chunk of his career and was productive...now over the last few years the quality hasn't been as good and BOOM his production isn't as good. Go figure!

You make it sound so simple, black and white. Krejci's production is down, his wingers aren't as good, so A + B = C obviously.

Holding Krejci completely unaccountable for his own play. How many minutes the last 3 seasons did he play with weaker line-mates like Schaller and Griffith vs. the amount of minutes with better players? Not that many relatively speaking.

Does Krejci play a more methodical pace than some other players? Yes, but that is mostly with the puck on his stick. Simply put, there are nights when he isn't getting many puck touches where the effort and compete just aren't there.

 

[ON3M4N]

You make it sound so simple, black and white. Krejci's production is down, his wingers aren't as good, so A + B = C obviously.

Holding Krejci completely unaccountable for his own play. How many minutes the last 3 seasons did he play with weaker line-mates like Schaller and Griffith vs. the amount of minutes with better players? Not that many relatively speaking.

Does Krejci play a more methodical pace than some other players? Yes, but that is mostly with the puck on his stick. Simply put, there are nights when he isn't getting many puck touches where the effort and compete just aren't there.

By no means am I'm not holding Krejci accountable, but I'm looking at all the variables. You can't tell me that having a revolving door of linemates doesn't hurt his production. Is it the sole reason he's not putting up the numbers he once did? no not at all. You also have to figure in the increasing amount of injuries he's sustained over the last 2-3 years. Then you look at his age, he just hit the magic 30 this year and will be 31 by seasons end.

Do I wish he made his linemates better? 100%

Would I trade Krejci in the right deal? 100%

 

[EverettMike]

Having too many good players is never a problem because they allow you to do a thing called a "trade."

Hell, we love to trade good players!

 

[Sharp Shooting Neely]

Sean McIndoe rates which GM's are under the most pressure to make a move at the deadline.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/goes-brown-eastern-gms-pressure/

 

[LouJersey]

Krejci makes over 7 mil per season.. he should make everyone better at that price.

 

[ON3M4N]

Krejci makes over 7 mil per season.. he should make everyone better at that price.

His talent should make everyone better, not his price tag. I mean you'd hope for $7.25 million per that he'll make others better, but that price doesn't guarantee jack.

 

[ON3M4N]

Sean McIndoe rates which GM's are under the most pressure to make a move at the deadline.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/goes-brown-eastern-gms-pressure/

8/10 for Sweeney is way off. He's less then 2 years into taking over this team. If he was in his 3rd year, then maybe. Right now I'd be him at a 5/10 only because Jacobs wants playoff ticket sales every year.

 

[compan]

Having too many good players is never a problem because they allow you to do a thing called a "trade."

Hell, we love to trade good players!

It's what we are best at. Under 23? Shows a ton of top potential? Let's trade him for a role player and 2-3 picks we will use on role players that likely won't hit 20 NHL games in their career.

 

[bp13]

Krejci makes over 7 mil per season.. he should make everyone better at that price.

I agree. I was a huge supporter of his for years as being underrated, but at this point he's not earning the paycheck. Sympathies for different/lesser linemates not withstanding, he needs to be able to produce regardless of whom he plays with. And his consistency is always a problem. For that kind of money and term, he should be better, plain and simple. OF course he didn't pay himself that contract and neither did Sweeney, but it's now incumbent on the GM to decide if he's better off moving him.

As an aside, how did we get on Krejci? If the discussion was about trading a center, I'd be trading Backes. That was a bad contract the second he signed it. I'd throw in a pick just to have him off the books.

 

[EverettMike]

Krejci makes over 7 mil per season.. he should make everyone better at that price.

I've spent many, many, many words defending David Krejci over the years, but boy ain't this the truth.

Always too many excuses for a guy making that much. I get it, his wingers should be better, but he should also bring them up, instead he gets dragged down.

 

[22Brad Park]

Seeing reports Ottawa and Montreal after Matt Duchene.Bruins GM sees a player like that land in Atlantic he might be wise to sell for teams future why them teams load up against one another and weaken their own futures

 

[22Brad Park]

Sid is a future HHOFer who could turn Jimmy Hayes into a 30+ goal scorer. As much as I love #46 he's not on that level. He needs real scorers on his wings to be truly effective.

Most centre's do struggle without wingers who can score..Take Marchand off Bergies line and put him on the Krecji line and see who struggles more.(yes i know Bergie numbers a bit down too but u know they be less no Marchand)Krecji salary hurts Bruins cause they are weak in alot of other areas. But that can be said about a lot of teams in a Cap Era.

 

[BklyNBruiN]

Krejci makes over 7 mil per season.. he should make everyone better at that price.

That's a big chunk of $$ and in my opinion he isn't worth it. When was the last time David K made the All Star game?

 

[PlayMakers]

Krejci makes over 7 mil per season.. he should make everyone better at that price.

Here's a list of players within $500k of Krejci's cap hit. How many of them are making everyone around them better this year?

Rick Nash
Parise
Spezza
O’Reilly
Ryan
Stastny
Sedin
Sedin
Kesler
Bergeron
Gaudreau
Thornton
Koivu

How many of them would you rather have, right now?

 

[Danton Heineken]

That's a big chunk of $$ and in my opinion he isn't worth it. When was the last time David K made the All Star game?

Prepare to read a dozen posts about how he led the playoffs in scoring in 2011 and that justifies everything somehow.

 

[wintersej]

When Krejci is on the ice, the Bruins are taking more shots than the Bruins took when Krejci was on the ice in 07-08, 08-09, 09-10, 10-11, 11-12, 13-14, 14-15, and 15-16 (only 12-13 was better). As a playmaker, how much responsibility is on Krejci for the shots not going in? Probably some. But, playmakers point totals are highly dependent on who they are passing to. And Schaller, Spooner, Vatrano and Backes are not Pasta, Eriksson, Lucic or Horton.

edit: stats are 5 on 5

 

[wintersej]

You make it sound so simple, black and white. Krejci's production is down, his wingers aren't as good, so A + B = C obviously.

Holding Krejci completely unaccountable for his own play. How many minutes the last 3 seasons did he play with weaker line-mates like Schaller and Griffith vs. the amount of minutes with better players? Not that many relatively speaking.

Does Krejci play a more methodical pace than some other players? Yes, but that is mostly with the puck on his stick. Simply put, there are nights when he isn't getting many puck touches where the effort and compete just aren't there.

Last season Krejci's most common linemates were Eriksson and Pasta.

The year before it was Lucic and then Griffith, Pasta, Smith all getting around the same amount of time.

Before that it was Lucic and Iginla.

Before that is was Lucic and Horton.

In his year with Lucic + Griffith, etc he had 31 points in 47 games. This year he has 32 points in 52 games. Weird that his points go down when around less talent. Krejci isn't Crosby. He is a playmaker that needs guys to pass to.

 

[Jean_Jacket41]

Here's a list of players within $500k of Krejci's cap hit. How many of them are making everyone around them better this year?

Rick Nash
Parise
Spezza
O’Reilly
Ryan
Stastny
Sedin
Sedin
Kesler
Bergeron
Gaudreau
Thornton
Koivu

How many of them would you rather have, right now?

Bergeron and Gaudreau. Maybe Kesler. I take Krejci over all the others.

 

[wintersej]

Bergeron and Gaudreau. Maybe Kesler. I take Krejci over all the others.

Oh I take RoR and maybe a couple other, too, but, the point is is that he is exactly what a dude making 7 million dollars is.

 

[Roll 4 Lines]

When Krejci is on the ice, the Bruins are taking more shots than the Bruins took when Krejci was on the ice in 07-08, 08-09, 09-10, 10-11, 11-12, 13-14, 14-15, and 15-16 (only 12-13 was better). As a playmaker, how much responsibility is on Krejci for the shots not going in? Probably some. But, playmakers point totals are highly dependent on who they are passing to. And Schaller, Spooner, Vatrano and Backes are not Pasta, Eriksson, Lucic or Horton.

Does this include PP time, or strictly even strength?

Cuz I'm sure nothing puts fear into opposing goaltenders more than a 65 foot Krejci slapper.