Proposal: All Bruins trade rumors/proposals: 16/17 Part V

[Danton Heineken]

Wow some lad you have no say in trades, second rounder for Krejci, just brutal.

I'd take a 3rd rounder to get out from under that cap hit.

 

[BBB24]

I'd take a 3rd rounder to get out from under that cap hit.

Agree, that 7m will really fill the net, lol.

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

I'd take a 3rd rounder to get out from under that cap hit.

If krecji was an ufa this year he would get 7 mill... I mean let's be real

If Boston decides to deal him... first there is the matter of the nmc... but once that is dealt with, we will get alot better return than a 3rd

Wait until the off-season and see who disappoints in the playoffs. I'm not saying I don't favor moving krecji myself, but this talk of 2nd and 3rd round picks is nonsense

 

[Alan Ryan]

Here is Kirk Luedeke's latest prospect report (Jan.30), with new rankings for the top 10 amateur prospects in the Bruins system. There are some substantial changes from the last one.

I found the JFK comments impressive, especially the prediction that he will center the third lne in Boston right away. He has moved up to #2, behind McAvoy.



2. Jakob Forsbacka-Karlsson: The more we look at JFK, the more enamored of him we become. With the 20-year-old Swede, it’s about details, details, details. He’s always been someone who’s played up levels because of his skill and maturity. He’s a hell of a smart hockey player, and he’s only getting better. He’ll start out on the third line right away, but this is someone we fully envision one day being the team’s second-line pivot.


https://scoutingpost.com/2017/01/31...17-re-ordering-the-amateur-prospect-rankings/

 

[PlayMakers]

Pretty sure the Avs wouldn't do it

Jimmy Hayes for Joe Colborne

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2176441

 

[22Brad Park]

Well The St Louis Blues have signed James Wisnewski to a contract.He is a right handed shot.Might be insurance for moving Shattenkirk??Wonder if Bruins are interested.

 

[bbfan419]

If krecji was an ufa this year he would get 7 mill... I mean let's be real

If Boston decides to deal him... first there is the matter of the nmc... but once that is dealt with, we will get alot better return than a 3rd

Wait until the off-season and see who disappoints in the playoffs. I'm not saying I don't favor moving krecji myself, but this talk of 2nd and 3rd round picks is nonsense

I agree Krejci is a guy a lot of teams would like to have and if he goes on the market, the Bruins will get a lot more than just a 2nd or 3rd rd pick back.

 

[BruinLVGA]

If krecji was an ufa this year he would get 7 mill... I mean let's be real

If Boston decides to deal him... first there is the matter of the nmc... but once that is dealt with, we will get alot better return than a 3rd

Wait until the off-season and see who disappoints in the playoffs. I'm not saying I don't favor moving krecji myself, but this talk of 2nd and 3rd round picks is nonsense

Agree. Total rubbish, in my opinion.

 

[slim399]

Here is Kirk Luedeke's latest prospect report (Jan.30), with new rankings for the top 10 amateur prospects in the Bruins system. There are some substantial changes from the last one.

I found the JFK comments impressive, especially the prediction that he will center the third lne in Boston right away. He has moved up to #2, behind McAvoy.



2. Jakob Forsbacka-Karlsson: The more we look at JFK, the more enamored of him we become. With the 20-year-old Swede, it’s about details, details, details. He’s always been someone who’s played up levels because of his skill and maturity. He’s a hell of a smart hockey player, and he’s only getting better. He’ll start out on the third line right away, but this is someone we fully envision one day being the team’s second-line pivot.


https://scoutingpost.com/2017/01/31...17-re-ordering-the-amateur-prospect-rankings/

Yeah this kid sounds like the real deal. I wouldn't be surprised if he gets a look after the NCAA season ends along with Bjork and McAvoy. If we landed Landeskog would love to see a Landeskog-JFK-Krejci line in the near future with Backes centering the third line.

 

[ODAAT]

I'd take a 3rd rounder to get out from under that cap hit.

I would like to see the B`s move on from that contract too but I`d be absolutely livid if all they retrieved from DK is a 3rd round pick, won`t happen, how we value him here and his value on the open market are entirely different things

 

[Sharp Shooting Neely]

Wonder if Sweeney would agree that Troy Brouwer does the absolute best Dougie Hamilton impression? Might be a reminder of how the negotiations played out before the trade. Think TB nailed it and then some.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BP6XO-zAh19/

 

[ON3M4N]

People complaining about Krejci, but don't take into account that he's had revolving wingers the last 2-3 years. Hell, how many different wingers has he had this year?

Backes
Vatrano
Pastrank
Scahller
Heinen

Those come to mind right away. Its kind of tough to build chemistry when every year/every few games you have different linemates. if Boston made him available, there would be quite a few teams interested and he'd fetch more than a 2nd/3rd

 

[BruinDust]

People complaining about Krejci, but don't take into account that he's had revolving wingers the last 2-3 years. Hell, how many different wingers has he had this year?

Backes
Vatrano
Pastrank
Scahller
Heinen

Those come to mind right away. Its kind of tough to build chemistry when every year/every few games you have different linemates. if Boston made him available, there would be quite a few teams interested and he'd fetch more than a 2nd/3rd

He'd certainly return more than a 2nd round pick, even though many here vastly overrate his trade value.

But this excuse about his wingers the last 3 years needs to stop. Does his wingers really impact his compete level and effort level? Using his wingers as an excuse is just that, an excuse, and it needs to stop, because it is flat-out BS.

 

[JCRO]

He'd certainly return more than a 2nd round pick, even though many here vastly overrate his trade value.

But this excuse about his wingers the last 3 years needs to stop. Does his wingers really impact his compete level and effort level? Using his wingers as an excuse is just that, an excuse, and it needs to stop, because it is flat-out BS.

Especially when you list off capable NHL wingers such as Backes, Vatrano, Pastrnak.

I get hes been stuck with a rotation of wingers since Looch and Horton departed one by one but as you stated, its not an excuse when it comes to compete level and effort.

 

[ODAAT]

People complaining about Krejci, but don't take into account that he's had revolving wingers the last 2-3 years. Hell, how many different wingers has he had this year?

Backes
Vatrano
Pastrank
Scahller
Heinen

Those come to mind right away. Its kind of tough to build chemistry when every year/every few games you have different linemates. if Boston made him available, there would be quite a few teams interested and he'd fetch more than a 2nd/3rd

revolving wingers is one thing and I won`t argue it definitely has merit but it doesn`t change the fact that he`ll literally go weeks where I don`t know if he`s even dressed with the MIA routine

I get it, nobody can bring "it" every night, but for the $$ he`s making, he`s not bringing nearly enough consistently IMO

 

[ON3M4N]

He'd certainly return more than a 2nd round pick, even though many here vastly overrate his trade value.

But this excuse about his wingers the last 3 years needs to stop. Does his wingers really impact his compete level and effort level? Using his wingers as an excuse is just that, an excuse, and it needs to stop, because it is flat-out BS.

But it's not an excuse. Krejci's compete/effort level hasn't changed. He always looks like he's not really trying, its just his style of play. To say that the revolving door of wingers is BS is laughable.

People are terrified to breakup Marchand and Bergeron because of their chemistry, but w/ Krejci is BS....Give me a break

Lets also not look at the level of talent he's been given. Vatrano just came back, Backes is new to the system after being w/ STL for his career. Shaller is a top 6 winger (barley a bottom 6 and Heinen was 20 yr old rookie whose no in the AHL.

 

[don]

I'd be careful about signing 3 top prospects at once. A move like that can put you in CAP hell in later years. Just look at those wanting to "get out from under" Krejci's contract and imagine that X 3. And Carlo would be just ahead of them.

 

[ODAAT]

I'd be careful about signing 3 top prospects at once. A move like that can put you in CAP hell in later years. Just look at those wanting to "get out from under" Krejci's contract and imagine that X 3. And Carlo would be just ahead of them.

my guess is that more than a few of these prospects will be moved via trade, not a bad problem to have but there`s more than just 1 or 2 who appear to be legit prospects and there`s not going to be room for all of them, think Dom or Kirk may have mentioned this as well in one of their great podcasts

 

[BruinsPortugal]

People complaining about Krejci, but don't take into account that he's had revolving wingers the last 2-3 years. Hell, how many different wingers has he had this year?

Backes
Vatrano
Pastrank
Scahller
Heinen

Those come to mind right away. Its kind of tough to build chemistry when every year/every few games you have different linemates. if Boston made him available, there would be quite a few teams interested and he'd fetch more than a 2nd/3rd

Revolving wingers because he cant mesh with anyone. Yes, he had some terrible wingers but thats when nothing else works. So he better start playing like a 7M player and for once elevate other players games.

 

[NDiesel]

But it's not an excuse. Krejci's compete/effort level hasn't changed. He always looks like he's not really trying, its just his style of play. To say that the revolving door of wingers is BS is laughable.

People are terrified to breakup Marchand and Bergeron because of their chemistry, but w/ Krejci is BS....Give me a break

Lets also not look at the level of talent he's been given. Vatrano just came back, Backes is new to the system after being w/ STL for his career. Shaller is a top 6 winger (barley a bottom 6 and Heinen was 20 yr old rookie whose no in the AHL.

I love Krejci as much as the next guy....however, at 7 million he's being paid as a guy who should be making his linemates better, not a guy who needs his linemates to make him better. That's my biggest thing against him.

That being said, trading him for a 2nd or 3rd, like others suggest, would be terrible asset management.

 

[BruinDust]

But it's not an excuse. Krejci's compete/effort level hasn't changed. He always looks like he's not really trying, its just his style of play. To say that the revolving door of wingers is BS is laughable.

People are terrified to breakup Marchand and Bergeron because of their chemistry, but w/ Krejci is BS....Give me a break

Lets also not look at the level of talent he's been given. Vatrano just came back, Backes is new to the system after being w/ STL for his career. Shaller is a top 6 winger (barley a bottom 6 and Heinen was 20 yr old rookie whose no in the AHL.

Just more excuses.

So him not skating hard is his "style"? Good lord.

I'm fine with them breaking up Bergeron and Marchand, I think they get too attached to it sometimes.

He has had quality line-mates the vast majority of his career, even the last 3 years. So what once in awhile he had to play alongside a Griffith or a Schaller. Boo hoo. Poor Krejci.

Give me a break.

 

[ODAAT]

I love Krejci as much as the next guy....however, at 7 million he's being paid as a guy who should be making his linemates better, not a guy who needs his linemates to make him better. That's my biggest thing against him.

That being said, trading him for a 2nd or 3rd, like others suggest, would be terrible asset management.

Agreed, Crosby has been given a rotation of wingers in his time, not saying DK is as good as Crosby but rarely do you see Sid`s production fall that drastically based on whom he`s playing with

 

[ON3M4N]

Revolving wingers because he cant mesh with anyone. Yes, he had some terrible wingers but thats when nothing else works. So he better start playing like a 7M player and for once elevate other players games.

Seem to mesh with Lucic just fine...same with Horton. Then again he played with them for more then a season. He's not going to turn trash into gold, so why try to keep forcing under talented players on his wings?

 

[BMC]

Agreed, Crosby has been given a rotation of wingers in his time, not saying DK is as good as Crosby but rarely do you see Sid`s production fall that drastically based on whom he`s playing with

Sid is a future HHOFer who could turn Jimmy Hayes into a 30+ goal scorer. As much as I love #46 he's not on that level. He needs real scorers on his wings to be truly effective.

 

[Krupp]

Revolving wingers because he cant mesh with anyone. Yes, he had some terrible wingers but thats when nothing else works. So he better start playing like a 7M player and for once elevate other players games.

I think this is really the one thing that worries me about Krejci. He is not the kind of guy that makes the guys playing with him ramp up their game. He's never really been one of those guys. It's kind of frustrating that even putting a guy like Backes with him - giving him the same kind of player he had with Lucic - hasn't really worked extremely well.

That said, it's not like the guy is having a terrible season, points wise. I just wish that he'd elevate his linemates more. But that's hard to find in a center and playmaker I'm sure. Not everbody can be crosby.