Player Discussion Alex DeBrincat

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

I want your coach to watch this video
and get this Cat back. (00:00 -> 12:30)

We need DeBrincat to watch that video and get his game back.

He's been getting a lot of looks from there but uncharacteristically missing. He missed empty net on the PP last game (a bit of tough angle but not for the guy you posted).

However, someone with his reputation and scoring prowess doesn't forget it over night. Like NyQuil said, this could be a big blessing if we can sign him for cheap and then he goes back to his torrid scoring ways.

Just don't think he's a good fit for this team's makeup and the assets could benefit us for in goal and the money for stronger defense.

 

[Senator Stanley]

I want your coach to watch this video
and get this Cat back. (00:00 -> 12:30)

I'm not sure we're seeing all that different a player this season, other than the puck isn't going in at the same rate. He's had chances.

Alex Debrinkat Shot Percentage Career | StatMuse

Alex DeBrincat has averaged a shooting percentage of 14.4 in his career.

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[NyQuil]

He isnr an 8 million dollar player to me. They'll need the money for Sanderson, Chychrun, Pinto and potentially a goalie. I'd trade him in the offseason. I know it's an unpopular thing to say but there is a better way for this team to spend it's dollars.

Not all of these guys come up for contracts at the same time.

If we can fit him in next year at a sub or ~$8M contract, it gives the team options going forward.

There will always be people looking for someone with a track record of scoring goals.

 

[coladin]

So was the rest of his career a fluke? Lol don't kid yourself

Is the Ottawa Dany Heatley the same one that went to SJ?

 

[bert]

Not all of these guys come up for contracts at the same time.

If we can fit him in next year at a sub or ~$8M contract, it gives the team options going forward.

There will always be people looking for someone with a track record of scoring goals.

No but they will need to pay them all at some point and there isn't money for everyone. Sanderson will need a 7 million dollar raise. Pinto will get bridged then they'll have to pay him. Chychrun likely gets a 3.5 million dollar raise and they still need a goalie.

 

[NyQuil]

No but they will need to pay them all at some point and there isn't money for everyone. Sanderson will need a 7 million dollar raise. Pinto will get bridged then they'll have to pay him. Chychrun likely gets a 3.5 million dollar raise and they still need a goalie.

I think he's worth more if he's under contract which means we'd get more in return.

 

[HSF]

people still dont understand the difference between UFA and RFA years and how that will change the salary of the players.

Stuztle has zero leverage when he signed that deal. DBC has leverage signing his deal. Its a different ball game. Should we overpay for DBC? No but his previous numbers and this years number along with the amount of UFA years we are buying out play a large part in his salary

 

[SweSensFan]

Not like he is a 2 time 40 goal scorer and on pace for 50 2 years ago.

Seems less and less likely he will be able to score 40 without Kane.

I hope I'm wrong.

I would even go as far as doubting if he should be on the first PP unit next season. With Chychrun, Norris and Giroux in the lineup I personally would like to try out a first pp unit with neither debrincat nor Chabot.

So playing second line and second pp I would put debrincats value at 5-6 M and expect around 25 goals...

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

Seems less and less likely he will be able to score 40 without Kane.

I hope I'm wrong.

I would even go as far as doubting if he should be on the first PP unit next season. With Chychrun, Norris and Giroux in the lineup I personally would like to try out a first pp unit with neither debrincat nor Chabot.

So playing second line and second pp I would put debrincats value at 5-6 M and expect around 25 goals...

Then he's not worth it. We can find players with 5-6 mil who score 25 and contribute greater all-around game/physical play.

 

[SweSensFan]

Then he's not worth it. We can find players with 5-6 mil who score 25 and contribute greater all-around game/physical play.

Maybe but do you disagree? Small sample size maybe but I think what we seen of Norris he is a way better sniper to have on the pp, possibly Chychrun is also better. Giroux and Stü are better playmakers in my opinion..

 

[Razor Face]

He isnr an 8 million dollar player to me. They'll need the money for Sanderson, Chychrun, Pinto and potentially a goalie. I'd trade him in the offseason. I know it's an unpopular thing to say but there is a better way for this team to spend it's dollars.

Honestly agree. I like him as a player a lot. But I just don't see how it works out long term at a 8m+ cap hit. You can only have so many 8m players and we have a lot of them as is. At the end of the day he's a small scoring winger. He is more of a luxury than a cornerstone, and while I'd love to keep him I just think it handcuffs the team moving forward. You can find a 5m winger that maybe won't score quite as many goals, but gives us more flexibility to add in other areas.

Only way I'd want to keep him is if he was open to like 7x7 which I doubt he is.

 

[Pinto Bean]

I understand there is different contractual circumstances for different players but there is just absolutely no way DBC should be getting more then the captain or Timmy Stu. DBC is a fantastic player who deserves a nice pay day but the aforementioned played are the clear leaders and stars of this team and it'll be a little gross for Cat to be getting paid more than these guys when he's a clear step below them.

Even if he WAS pacing for 50g again this season it'd be pretty clear to me that he isn't on the same level as multiple other guys in the forward corps IMO.

 

[coladin]

Even with a healthy Norris, does it change anything? He just flat out misses regardless of who sets him up.

That video of his Chicago highlights makes me bitter

 

[SensHulk]

I’d love to keep the Cat but anything over $8M/year is seriously overpaying. I simply expected more…and I know it’s easy for me to say but I really didn’t think a multiple 40 goal scorer would have such trouble barely getting to 20 goals. Pinto is practically there…

 

[CorrectOpinion]

When we inevitably retool. This guy and bath should be our main trade chips. Debrincat's energy doesn't cut it(neither does drakes).

 

[NyQuil]

I’d love to keep the Cat but anything over $8M/year is seriously overpaying. I simply expected more…and I know it’s easy for me to say but I really didn’t think a multiple 40 goal scorer would have such trouble barely getting to 20 goals

Well, he already has 21 goals and is on pace for 27.

I was curious to see how he stacks up, so I looked at goals per game over the last ten years for the Senators. (mininum 40 GP)

He comes in tied for 19th in terms of Ottawa Senators seasons.

The top 21 goal scoring seasons:

1. Matt Duchene 18-19 0.54
2. Josh Norris 21-22 0.53
3. Tim Stutzle 22-23 0.52
4. Mark Stone 18-19 0.47
5. Claude Giroux 22-23 0.42
6. Brady Tkachuk 22-23 0.41
7. J-G Pageau 19-20 0.40
8. Ryan Dzingel 18-19 0.39
9. Brady Tkachuk 21-22 0.38
9. Connor Brown 20-21 0.38
11. Mike Hoffman 15-16 0.37
11. Drake Batherson 21-22 0.37
13. Mike Hoffman 16-17 0.35
13. Anthony Duclair 19-20 0.35
13. Kyle Turris 16-17 0.35
16. Mark Stone 17-18 0.34
16. Mike Hoffman 14-15 0.34
16. Matt Duchene 17-18 0.34
19. Bobby Ryan 13-14 0.33
19. Alex DeBrincat 22-23 0.33
19. Mark Stone 14-15 0.33

 

[Adele Dazeem]

When we inevitably retool. This guy and bath should be our main trade chips. Debrincat's energy doesn't cut it(neither does drakes).

Batherson has too good of a contract to trade.

 

[senswon]

I'm not sure we're seeing all that different a player this season, other than the puck isn't going in at the same rate. He's had chances.

Alex Debrinkat Shot Percentage Career | StatMuse

Alex DeBrincat has averaged a shooting percentage of 14.4 in his career.

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I wonder how that new baby is helping the general sleeping habits of his home.....

 

[HSF]

When we inevitably retool. This guy and bath should be our main trade chips. Debrincat's energy doesn't cut it(neither does drakes).

the correct opinion is to move norris

 

[Answer]

He may be a bit more dynamic than Heatley or Cheechoo who were extremely 1 dimensional players, still I don't see DBC a pure 40 goal scorer, and would not want to waste 8 million on him. I'd rather spend that money on 2 Conner Browns ( or 1 C.Brown and Zub) at 4 million. Would definitely make us a much more better Team, especially 5on5

 

[CorrectOpinion]

the correct opinion is to move norris

Woah dude

I don't so. He is a crucial piece of the core/culture.

 

[SweSensFan]

Well, he already has 21 goals and is on pace for 27.

I was curious to see how he stacks up, so I looked at goals per game over the last ten years for the Senators. (mininum 40 GP)

He comes in tied for 19th in terms of Ottawa Senators seasons.

The top 21 goal scoring seasons:

1. Matt Duchene 18-19 0.54
2. Josh Norris 21-22 0.53
3. Tim Stutzle 22-23 0.52
4. Mark Stone 18-19 0.47
5. Claude Giroux 22-23 0.42
6. Brady Tkachuk 22-23 0.41
7. J-G Pageau 19-20 0.40
8. Ryan Dzingel 18-19 0.39
9. Brady Tkachuk 21-22 0.38
9. Connor Brown 20-21 0.38
11. Mike Hoffman 15-16 0.37
11. Drake Batherson 21-22 0.37
13. Mike Hoffman 16-17 0.35
13. Anthony Duclair 19-20 0.35
13. Kyle Turris 16-17 0.35
16. Mark Stone 17-18 0.34
16. Mike Hoffman 14-15 0.34
16. Matt Duchene 17-18 0.34
19. Bobby Ryan 13-14 0.33
19. Alex DeBrincat 22-23 0.33
19. Mark Stone 14-15 0.33

Behind C Brown and Dzingle. I think most fans expected more from the

 

[JD1]

Well, he already has 21 goals and is on pace for 27.

I was curious to see how he stacks up, so I looked at goals per game over the last ten years for the Senators. (mininum 40 GP)

He comes in tied for 19th in terms of Ottawa Senators seasons.

The top 21 goal scoring seasons:

1. Matt Duchene 18-19 0.54
2. Josh Norris 21-22 0.53
3. Tim Stutzle 22-23 0.52
4. Mark Stone 18-19 0.47
5. Claude Giroux 22-23 0.42
6. Brady Tkachuk 22-23 0.41
7. J-G Pageau 19-20 0.40
8. Ryan Dzingel 18-19 0.39
9. Brady Tkachuk 21-22 0.38
9. Connor Brown 20-21 0.38
11. Mike Hoffman 15-16 0.37
11. Drake Batherson 21-22 0.37
13. Mike Hoffman 16-17 0.35
13. Anthony Duclair 19-20 0.35
13. Kyle Turris 16-17 0.35
16. Mark Stone 17-18 0.34
16. Mike Hoffman 14-15 0.34
16. Matt Duchene 17-18 0.34
19. Bobby Ryan 13-14 0.33
19. Alex DeBrincat 22-23 0.33
19. Mark Stone 14-15 0.33

DeBrincat sure has missed his fair share of chances. Not hard to think we could have another 3-5 points if he was pacing at 37 instead of 27

 

[bert]

Batherson has too good of a contract to trade.

With lots of untapped potential and upside left in his game too.

DeBrincat sure has missed his fair share of chances. Not hard to think we could have another 3-5 points if he was pacing at 37 instead of 27

I feel like there are points in the season where he was unlucky. But right now the reason he isn't finishing is not luck. He isn't getting as many chances and he is missing open looks. Lots of posts and unlucky bounces early but not now. Which makes me wonder how good he is the tighter the games get too.

 

[JD1]

With lots of untapped potential and upside left in his game too.


I feel like there are points in the season where he was unlucky. But right now the reason he isn't finishing is not luck. He isn't getting as many chances and he is missing open looks. Lots of posts and unlucky bounces early but not now. Which makes me wonder how good he is the tighter the games get too.

He had 28 as a rookie which is an impressive number. Since then, two seasons at 40+, one season pacing at 50 and one season where he had 18 in 70. I wonder what happened in that season where he only had 18?

Lots of comments on here that Norris has the better PP one timer. That may be true but most of those Norris one timers are coming from the top of the umbrella and it's a far more difficult play with an LD at the top of the umbrella to feed that shot from the other side. They're not even looking for the DeBrincat one timer from the umbrella

Be nice to see him finish strong. We need it