Player Discussion Alex DeBrincat

[Pierre from Orleans]

I think Garrioch at this point is just desperately trying to incite engagement

I don't know if this is common practice on twitter but he has been retweeting his own tweets alot.

 

[bert]

If he doesn't want to re-sign here I think we'll fetch a greater return than what we gave up for him.

Really? No one is giving up a top 10 pick for him at the deadline as they are playoff teams. Then if he is traded at the draft he is a 9 million dollar player one year away from UFA.

Imagine Jiricek had fallen to 7.... Then the sens dont retain him. Nightmare fuel. Thankfully he didnt slip. What was Philly doing btw. Jesus they are a mess.

8 X 8.35 lets get it done Cat.

Read the Mendes article, I think if he thinks they can win he will sign. If they can make the playoffs this year I bet he sticks. If they arent remotely close he probably leaves.

 

[Alf Silfversson]

Michkov is a star, whoever has 2nd doesnt pick him #3 is going to be ecstatic.

Mitchov aside, Fantillii and Carlsson are fantastic.

Fantilli is having an Eichel-esque draft year. He's going to be a very good C in the NHL.

Carlsson is also a guy who could become a franchise C. NHL scouts have to be drooling over the size and skill combination. Definitely some Barkov and even maybe Sundin to his game. Huge potential there.

I think there is a very solid top 4 in this year's draft.

 

[bert]

Mitchov aside, Fantillii and Carlsson are fantastic.

Fantilli is having an Eichel-esque draft year. He's going to be a very good C in the NHL.

Carlsson is also a guy who could become a franchise C. NHL scouts have to be drooling over the size and skill combination. Definitely some Barkov and even maybe Sundin to his game. Huge potential there.

I think there is a very solid top 4 in this year's draft.

To me there is three different tiers of players in the top end of the draft. Michkov is a star talent, one of the best russian prospects ever. I thought it was a funny going into this when people were suggesting that anyone could supplant Bedard. He is clearly at a different level from everyone else much like Michkov is he just isnt playing in this tournament. Not saying Fantilli and Carlsson arent great prospects, they are but these two guys showed early and often they are special.

 

[Alf Silfversson]

To me there is three different tiers of players in the top end of the draft. Michkov is a star talent, one of the best russian prospects ever. I thought it was a funny going into this when people were suggesting that anyone could supplant Bedard. He is clearly at a different level from everyone else much like Michkov is he just isnt playing in this tournament. Not saying Fantilli and Carlsson arent great prospects, they are but these two guys showed early and often they are special.

I could see that. On pure upside I'd say Bedard and Michkov are a tier ahead. NHL scouts are going to love Fantilli and Carlsson's size though.

It'll be interesting to see where MIchkov goes.

 

[bert]

I could see that. On pure upside I'd say Bedard and Michkov are a tier ahead. NHL scouts are going to love Fantilli and Carlsson's size though.

It'll be interesting to see where MIchkov goes.

I dont think there is any scenario he doesnt go 2nd even with this contract/Russia stuff. He would have been first OA the last 6 drafts (maybe not 2018 Dahlin).

But hey ive been wrong, could have a team want to draft a centerman. But make no mistake he is a phenomenal prospect, Kucherov level player when he plays.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

I find it very odd that on the very same day Mendes releases an article talking with debrincat and how he’s adjusting to Canada, Boo Boo Garrioch “releases” info that there is no extension being discussed and he wants to wait.

I think Garrioch at this point is just desperately trying to incite engagement.

He doesn't seem to have that inside scoop he once had with Melnyk.

 

[DJB]

I don't know if this is common practice on twitter but he has been retweeting his own tweets alot.

Nobody else will do Big Bruce does it himself. Lol

 

[CorrectOpinion]

Bruce is the most unlikeable person in Sens media. The way he asks players questions makes me physically uncomfortable.

 

[aragorn]

I wonder if PD gets Talbot done first before DeBrincat? If Talbot will take a little less that could help the situation.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

Michkov is a star, whoever has 2nd doesnt pick him #3 is going to be ecstatic.

Michkov being Russian and in Russia right now makes him a question mark. Not talking about his skill level. We don't know what will happen over the next few years and if he'll be stuck in Russia or what will happen to him.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Michkov being Russian and in Russia right now makes him a question mark. Not talking about his skill level. We don't know what will happen over the next few years and if he'll be stuck in Russia or what will happen to him.

also signed through 2026 in the KHL. Could be another Kaprizov situation though where he walks in and is a superstar immediately

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

also signed through 2026 in the KHL. Could be another Kaprizov situation though where he walks in and is a superstar immediately

Good point. A team will have to be willing to wait a few seasons for him. Might see him slide down the draft a few spots (or have a team in 2nd or 3rd trade the pick). I'd wager teams picking top three want those kids in the NHL by the 24-25 season....unless it's a middle of the pack team that jumps a full 10 spots in the draft lotto.

 

[bicboi64]

Cat's shooting percentage is getting better and i think it'll end up closer to his career
%14.8 percent. Its at %9.6 right now and if he keeps up his recent play, it means a lot more goals for us!

 

[Crosside]

Alex DeBrincat, now with Senators, still searching for elusive team success

The former Blackhawks star has adapted his game to the Senators’ more physical style. But it appears his wait for his first real playoff run will last at least one more year.

chicago.suntimes.com

 

[Samsquanch]

Of course it's so easy and the cheap way out to be like Shawn Simpson (this AM on the drive for example) and declare this trade a bust and another miss by management.

Its a slimy move because you just know that those same people would change that opinion at the drop of a hat if Debrincat has one big hot streak and finishes strong.

His game is so polished in the other areas of hockey that you need to be a terrible judge of talent if you can't see beyond the goal totals, and how there's a really thin line separating him from being a dominant two way winger.

He's shooting at an unsustainably low shooting percentage, and he's in his first year on a new, young and inexperienced team and in a new city/country. And he still looks fantastic out there most nights is always engage. not a one dimensional or emotionally fragile player at all. He's always working hard and playing the same way - the right way - no matter what kind of hot or cold streak he's on.

If you go from being ecstatic about the trade when it happened, watched him play all the games, and are now calling management bad for making the trade and/or would be actively shopping him today - your a terrible decision maker and critic. Lost.

 

[Beech]

Of course it's so easy and the cheap way out to be like Shawn Simpson (this AM on the drive for example) and declare this trade a bust and another miss by management.

Its a slimy move because you just know that those same people would change that opinion at the drop of a hat if Debrincat has one big hot streak and finishes strong.

His game is so polished in the other areas of hockey that you need to be a terrible judge of talent if you can't see beyond the goal totals, and how there's a really thin line separating him from being a dominant two way winger.

He's shooting at an unsustainably low shooting percentage, and he's in his first year on a new, young and inexperienced team and in a new city/country. And he still looks fantastic out there most nights is always engage. not a one dimensional or emotionally fragile player at all. He's always working hard and playing the same way - the right way - no matter what kind of hot or cold streak he's on.

If you go from being ecstatic about the trade when it happened, watched him play all the games, and are now calling management bad for making the trade and/or would be actively shopping him today - your a terrible decision maker and critic. Lost.

He played on a Blackhawks team that was near the bottom of the league.. That was dealing with scandal. In a market that has 18,0000 fans in the arena and 18,000 outside. So, you better entertain. Chicks dig the long ball, right? So offense, goals, pizazz.. The Cat's plus/minus is very poor.

Patrick Kane has spent the last 6 seasons raking up pretty bad minus totals every year. All the while filling the net with pucks. All the while finishing near the bottom, all the while playing 9 playoff games in that crazy bubble year. Pizazz..he has his accolades.

Concern over small forwards, concern over players with poor plus/minus. Concern over a #7 overall pick, concern over a guy with $9 plus million coming, was always there. People were not hearing it.

He plays the right was? -15. Second worse on this team. His most frequent linemate is Giroux at -2, who has 5 more points and is 10 years older.

Last years' T bay was a plus team (I mean the lions share of all their regulars). Ditto for the champs.

you are right, he does look fantastic. Put on a show!!!! Chicago. The good teams are: Play well, play disciplined, play structured, score 5 v 5, fight hard, battle for pucks. Be noticed at the end of the process with a PLUS on your personal record and a +2 points in the team record.

 

[topshelf15]

Absolutely a first line winger...But we already have an 8 million dollar winger in Tkachuk,the center ice spine that is emerging has to be protected...Add in the defense and the hefty raise that will be coming to Sandy and I really dont see how we get this done

 

[Big Muddy]

Of course it's so easy and the cheap way out to be like Shawn Simpson (this AM on the drive for example) and declare this trade a bust and another miss by management.

Its a slimy move because you just know that those same people would change that opinion at the drop of a hat if Debrincat has one big hot streak and finishes strong.

His game is so polished in the other areas of hockey that you need to be a terrible judge of talent if you can't see beyond the goal totals, and how there's a really thin line separating him from being a dominant two way winger.

He's shooting at an unsustainably low shooting percentage, and he's in his first year on a new, young and inexperienced team and in a new city/country. And he still looks fantastic out there most nights is always engage. not a one dimensional or emotionally fragile player at all. He's always working hard and playing the same way - the right way - no matter what kind of hot or cold streak he's on.

If you go from being ecstatic about the trade when it happened, watched him play all the games, and are now calling management bad for making the trade and/or would be actively shopping him today - your a terrible decision maker and critic. Lost.

Debrincat is good, but it's unfortunate that there's a salary cap. Making things even a little more difficult is the position we'll be in if the cap is just $83.5 m. If we can add another good RD, solidify our goaltending situation, plus sign Debrincat, I'm all for it (suspect most fans would be as well). Perhaps it could all work out and I guess we'll just have to see how this unfolds.

 

[coladin]

Debrincat is good, but it's unfortunate that there's a salary cap. Making things even a little more difficult is the position we'll be in if the cap is just $83.5 m. If we can add another good RD, solidify our goaltending situation, plus sign Debrincat, I'm all for it (suspect most fans would be as well). Perhaps it could all work out and I guess we'll just have to see how this unfolds.

ADB is good. And that’s the problem.

He is not great. I still don’t know what to make of him. He isn’t fast. He isn’t nifty. He gets points , yes. I just don’t know what he is.

He is, by far, the worst at telegraphing passes and plays for a top line player. 4th line stuff, really. Just watch and he is good at forcing pucks and plays that get picked off.

Don’t know what they should do…

 

[Cosmix]

Absolutely a first line winger...But we already have an 8 million dollar winger in Tkachuk,the center ice spine that is emerging has to be protected...Add in the defense and the hefty raise that will be coming to Sandy and I really dont see how we get this done

Another reason to question Dorion's ability as a GM when he trades a high first round draft pick + for a VG winger whose contract expires in one year, has a $9M QO requirement coming up, and did not negotiate a contract extension before the trade.

Hopefully Dorion's time as GM will end soon.

 

[BankStreetParade]

He plays the right was? -15. Second worse on this team. His most frequent linemate is Giroux at -2, who has 5 more points and is 10 years older.

No it isn't.

 

[Big Muddy]

Another reason to question Dorion's ability as a GM when he trades a high first round draft pick + for a VG winger whose contract expires in one year, has a $9M QO requirement coming up, and did not negotiate a contract extension before the trade.

Hopefully Dorion's time as GM will end soon.

I mentioned as the trade news broke that this was an all-in move on Dorion's part and the timeframe to produce results was getting moved forward. Kind of aligns with the challenge Dorion faces with new ownership coming in. People were caught up in the excitement which is natural, so didn't want to throw too much shade on the move at the time. But every coin does have 2 sides. The cost of the trade will become more illuminated if Debrincat is not re-signed. Maybe he re-signs and it all works out. Hope for the best.

 

[JD1]

Another reason to question Dorion's ability as a GM when he trades a high first round draft pick + for a VG winger whose contract expires in one year, has a $9M QO requirement coming up, and did not negotiate a contract extension before the trade.

Hopefully Dorion's time as GM will end soon.

Idk. He's got him for two years. Still quite an asset if we move him.

 

[Cosmix]

Idk. He's got him for two years. Still quite an asset if we move him.

If we move him hopefully we can get back something of equivalent value such as a high draft pick, top line winger or a top pairing RD.