Player Discussion Alex DeBrincat

[SENStastic]

The problem with this DBC trade is if he refuses to sign an extension with any team except Detroit & that seems to be the case. We could trade him to another team, but why would they give us very much for a rental of one yr? I just hope we can get one top 9 player from someone who can add some secondary scoring & then PD has Tarensko lined up.

The question is, does StevieY want to play the prick here with his home town or is he willing to be reasonable to get a decent forward & give a fair return. Could Ottawa also not sign DBC & let him sit out the yr without a contract if they don't get a decent return?

If we're taking him to team arb and they decide what the year term should be, then im assuming if we refuse to offer him that contract he immediately becomes UFA no?

 

[JD1]

The problem with this DBC trade is if he refuses to sign an extension with any team except Detroit & that seems to be the case. We could trade him to another team, but why would they give us very much for a rental of one yr? I just hope we can get one top 9 player from someone who can add some secondary scoring & then PD has Tarensko lined up.

The question is, does StevieY want to play the prick here with his home town or is he willing to be reasonable to get a decent forward & give a fair return. Could Ottawa also not sign DBC & let him sit out the yr without a contract if they don't get a decent return?

The worst case for DeBrincat is you sign him for the year and move him at the TDL. He'll be an attractive asset at the TDL. Teams are always giving up too much to get scoring help at the TDL.

f*** Yzerman I say.

 

[Relapsing]

... I'm starting to think debrincat isn't getting traded today folks

 

[Mingus Dew]

The worst case for DeBrincat is you sign him for the year and move him at the TDL. He'll be an attractive asset at the TDL. Teams are always giving up too much to get scoring help at the TDL.

f*** Yzerman I say.

I think DBC would be fine with this. I don't think Sens management would be. f***s our cap situation and becomes a massive distraction for a team trying to make the playoffs.

He's not playing another game for Ottawa.

 

[2CHAINZ]

... I'm starting to think debrincat isn't getting traded today folks

Ya I think business is closed for the weekend. Monday we will be 24-48 hrs away tho

 

[Ouroboros]

240-480 hours away.

 

[SensFactor]

I bet the Isles and Ducks trade proposals are better but Dorion is stuck with Detroit as Cat won't sign elsewhere

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Isn’t Jeff Jackson supposedly getting impatient?

Maybe frustrated I don't know how impatient they are.

 

[Adele Dazeem]

Detroit can go f themselves and wait another year to sign him.

 

[Micklebot]

The worst case for DeBrincat is you sign him for the year and move him at the TDL. He'll be an attractive asset at the TDL. Teams are always giving up too much to get scoring help at the TDL.

f*** Yzerman I say.

That was a much easier option before we signed Korpisalo, right now we have about 6 mil mil to fill Debrincat's spot once you account for filling out the rest of a 22-23 man roster.

As it stands, I can only see us fitting him in if we manage to move Joseph with nothing coming back, even then I'm not sure if that's enough.

 

[Samboni]

... I'm starting to think debrincat isn't getting traded today folks

If the sides were close to a deal, it would have been done already.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

If the sides were close to a deal, it would have been done already.

What do you think the hold up is?

The extension talk

or

The return

 

[dpw]

Quite the pickle Dorian put us in.

 

[Mingus Dew]

That was a much easier option before we signed Korpisalo, right now we have about 6 mil mil to fill Debrincat's spot once you account for filling out the rest of a 22-23 man roster.

As it stands, I can only see us fitting him in if we manage to move Joseph with nothing coming back, even then I'm not sure if that's enough.

We’re f***ed, in other words.

 

[Samboni]

What do you think the hold up is?

The extension talk

or

The return

Who knows.It’s hard to believe anything you hear or read these days. For all we know, Pierre is working on a deal with another team. Remember all of the rumours when Pierre was trying to trade EK? How many different teams “were close” to making a deal? Or when a new owner was going to be announced? My gut tells me that this deal is a ways off yet from being completed.

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

Who knows.It’s hard to believe anything you hear or read these days. For all we know, Pierre is working on a deal with another team. Remember all of the rumours when Pierre was trying to trade EK? How many different teams “were close” to making a deal? Or when a new owner was going to be announced? My gut tells me that this deal is a ways off yet from being completed.

Good. We are in control here.

Worst scenario with the waiting is losing out on Tarasenko but I’ll gladly take Tatar. MacArthur 2.0.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

That was a much easier option before we signed Korpisalo, right now we have about 6 mil mil to fill Debrincat's spot once you account for filling out the rest of a 22-23 man roster.

As it stands, I can only see us fitting him in if we manage to move Joseph with nothing coming back, even then I'm not sure if that's enough.

The clearest path forward is to move DeBrincat anyway they can.
10 forwards
7 D
2 goalies
7.5m cap space.
Pinto and 2 bottom 6 forwards to sign. Lets Say 3.5 combined ; 4 left >> to get to 13 F
Moving Joseph could save 2.2 He needs to be replaced at .75 6.2 left
Move Brannstrom to enable moving Joseph .. Save 2 .,. replace him with Kleven (916) save 1.1
7.3 cap space ... still not enough

13F
7D
2G

Could go 12F ... but that's not ideal .. could squeeze him in though
Check my arithmetic lol

Who knows.It’s hard to believe anything you hear or read these days. For all we know, Pierre is working on a deal with another team. Remember all of the rumours when Pierre was trying to trade EK? How many different teams “were close” to making a deal? Or when a new owner was going to be announced? My gut tells me that this deal is a ways off yet from being completed.

Would not doubt it. He has to move him. Even if its for Alex Chiasson; He's a UFA so not him; make it Joe Veleno

 

[lomekian]

The funny thing about following this situation on HF boards is that it seems DRW fans seem to expect to give up more for DBC than Sens fans seem to expect to get for him, which is kind of the inverse of the usual order of things.

What's odd as well is the fact it seems everyone thinks the player is going to Detroit, but Dorian appears to have been asking for more than the Sens gave up to get him despite having very little latitude, and Yzerman seems less enthusiastic than most GMs despite probably being the players preferred option, presumably due to where the Red Wings rebuild is at.

Wouldn't be surprised if DBC goes elsewhere, but I suppose it depends on how much the player wants to 'go home' or if he just wants to get out of Ottawa and be nearer home.

Despite being rivals in the division, I hope the impending ownership change allows you guys to enjoy a long overdue period of your team being really pushed to win as opposed to having to sell off key pieces everytime things look like they might be really developing.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

The funny thing about following this situation on HF boards is that it seems DRW fans seem to expect to give up more for DBC than Sens fans seem to expect to get for him, which is kind of the inverse of the usual order of things.

What's odd as well is the fact it seems everyone thinks the player is going to Detroit, but Dorian appears to have been asking for more than the Sens gave up to get him despite having very little latitude, and Yzerman seems less enthusiastic than most GMs despite probably being the players preferred option, presumably due to where the Red Wings rebuild is at.

Wouldn't be surprised if DBC goes elsewhere, but I suppose it depends on how much the player wants to 'go home' or if he just wants to get out of Ottawa and be nearer home.

Despite being rivals in the division, I hope the impending ownership change allows you guys to enjoy a long overdue period of your team being really pushed to win as opposed to having to sell off key pieces everytime things look like they might be really developing.

Any outlets talking about the Dorion ask?

 

[Micklebot]

The clearest path forward is to move DeBrincat anyway they can.
10 forwards
7 D
2 goalies
7.5m cap space.
Pinto and 2 bottom 6 forwards to sign. Lets Say 3.5 combined ; 4 left >> to get to 13 F
Moving Joseph could save 2.2 He needs to be replaced at .75 6.2 left
Move Brannstrom to enable moving Joseph .. Save 2 .,. replace him with Kleven (916) save 1.1
7.3 cap space ... still not enough

13F
7D
2G

Could go 12F ... but that's not ideal .. could squeeze him in though
Check my arithmetic lol

The only reason to keep DeBrincat right now is to maximize his return,

We currently have 10 forwards (plus DeBrincat and Pinto) 7 D and 2 G on the roster, with 7.5 in space.
Pinto plus a 12th F will take at least 2 mil. DeBrincat assuming a complete victory at arbitration will cost 7.65, so we need to clear at least 2.15 to run an 21 man roster (12F, 7D, 2G) so move Joseph and sign Sokolov at 750k and that leaves no room for callups if injuries occur. A Murray Buyout could resolve that last issue.

That gives us this (red needs to be signed:

Tkachuk-Stu-Giroux
DeBrincat-Norris-Batherson
Greig-Pinto-?Sokolov@.775?
Kelly-Kastelic-MacEwen

Chabot-Zub
Sanderson-Chychrun
Brannstrom-Hamonic
JBD

Korpi
Forsi

Edit: Just realized 775 is the league min contract, so I've amended Sokolov's deal.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

What do you think the hold up is?

The extension talk

or

The return

Everything insiders are saying pretty much indicates it’s the extension. Friedman thinks it’s the last hurdle and Pagnotta says the Sens have teo legit offers on the table.

 

[2CHAINZ]

The funny thing about following this situation on HF boards is that it seems DRW fans seem to expect to give up more for DBC than Sens fans seem to expect to get for him, which is kind of the inverse of the usual order of things.

What's odd as well is the fact it seems everyone thinks the player is going to Detroit, but Dorian appears to have been asking for more than the Sens gave up to get him despite having very little latitude, and Yzerman seems less enthusiastic than most GMs despite probably being the players preferred option, presumably due to where the Red Wings rebuild is at.

Wouldn't be surprised if DBC goes elsewhere, but I suppose it depends on how much the player wants to 'go home' or if he just wants to get out of Ottawa and be nearer home.

Despite being rivals in the division, I hope the impending ownership change allows you guys to enjoy a long overdue period of your team being really pushed to win as opposed to having to sell off key pieces everytime things look like they might be really developing.

This must be your first time at HFSens We never expect good things here

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

This must be your first time at HFSens We never expect good things here

lol we've been beaten down

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

The only reason to keep DeBrincat right now is to maximize his return,

We currently have 10 forwards (plus DeBrincat and Pinto) 7 D and 2 G on the roster, with 7.5 in space.
Pinto plus a 12th F will take at least 2 mil. DeBrincat assuming a complete victory at arbitration will cost 7.65, so we need to clear at least 2.15 to run an 21 man roster (12F, 7D, 2G) so move Joseph and sign Sokolov at 750k and that leaves no room for callups if injuries occur. A Murray Buyout could resolve that last issue.

That gives us this (red needs to be signed:

Tkachuk-Stu-Giroux
DeBrincat-Norris-Batherson
Greig-Pinto-?Sokolov@.775?
Kelly-Kastelic-MacEwen

Chabot-Zub
Sanderson-Chychrun
Brannstrom-Hamonic
JBD

Korpi
Forsi

Edit: Just realized 775 is the league min contract, so I've amended Sokolov's deal.

Really tight. 12F its doable.. What does a Murray buy out save on the Cap?
Clearest path is to move him.. might have to take some lumps on the trade

 

[Sun God Nika]

I just paid for internet on a air plane to see if Debrincat got traded …